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04-03-2021, 03:01 PM | #621 |
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b) I didn't know Parado's actor's name. c) see "a)". Quote:
Well, the issue before was that Ryotaro can't be possessed anymore, but here, Momotaros can possess him to train Ryotaro in swordplay? Also, well, Ryotaro wasn't really a fighter at all, but teaching Ryotaro to properly fight, I think, is good if Ryotaro is against an enemy who is a skillful fighter, and schools someone who just relies on power in fight.
Momo's training of Ryotaro has a plot function, sure. Getting Ryotaro to be at least minimally competent is what Momo's after. But that scene is really there to drive home how much Momo cares for Ryotaro, how he wants to make sure his friend is safe if he's not there to protect him. It's Momo's pragmatism, looking at what a Den-O without the Imagin would be, and trying to solve that problem. He can't really deal with his emotions (because: Momo!), so he channels that sadness into something beneficial. I feel like there was some dialogue in this one where they clarified that this wasn't the train station. I think that was explicitly stated?
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04-03-2021, 06:46 PM | #622 |
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Best Kamen Rider villain of all time.
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04-03-2021, 06:58 PM | #623 |
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Also, man, I get it now. I get Liner Form!
The DenLiner, for all of its capabilities, is just a vessel. It isn't the fighter, it's the thing that gets the fighters to the fight. It's nothing without the people inside of it. That's Ryotaro. He's just the suit that the Imagin wear. He isn't the fighter, he's the vessel. Liner Form is a suit where the vessel becomes the fighter, so of course it's Ryotaro wearing a DenLiner-themed costume. I get it now! A+ suit design!
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04-03-2021, 08:03 PM | #624 |
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KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 38 - "THE KING TRAIN WITHIN THE TRAIN TERMINAL”
Sometimes we don't get what we want. That's it. That's this story's lesson. Ryuta wants Airi to see him as a real brother, but she doesn't. Yuuto wants to be remembered, but he won't be. The end. There's something nicely realistic about this story that centers on an imagination monster from the end of time and a self-negating swordsman. Sometimes shit just doesn't work out. Sometimes we want things that are never going to happen. What do we do with that feeling? How do we move on? The answer here, so beautifully simple and real, is that you just do. You admit to yourself that you are always going to want that thing, and you accept that you can only dream of it. You just carry that weight. Maybe it's a burden, where the need for it drives you to anger or sadness. But maybe it can be a thing to aspire to, a way to bring your dream that little bit closer. Having Yuuto be the one to make that clear to Ryuta, not by a big speech, but just by his presence. Ryuta sees Yuuto as the one who is winning with Airi, and Yuuto is the one who's lost the most. But he doesn't let that destroy him. He accepts it, and moves on. If Yuuto can do that, maybe it's time for Ryuta to do the same. I mean, the first thing Ryutaros does after accepting that Airi isn't his sister is that he apologizes for everything he did over these two episodes, so, like, maybe it's going to be okay! It's hard, but so is growing up. With this story, the show is getting at a concept that its younger viewers can most relate to, which is a neat thing for these shows to do occasionally. Growing up means accepting that the world doesn't just exist to make us happy, and that sometimes we're going to have to deal with not getting everything we want. It sucks! It's not fun. But it's part of growing up, and we all have to do it. I mean, unless you're Den-Parado, who is living his best villain life. I cannot for the life of me imagine how someone could dislike this performance. He is not afraid of these do-gooders at all! Even a little! They're amusing when they're frustrated, and boring when they've got some spine. His first face-to-face showdown is him shrugging at some questions and laughing at others. He isn't here to monologue or exposit. He's here to finish his task and enjoy himself, in that order. Getting rid of the Riders is a step in that direction, but it's not like he's trying to torture them or anything. To put it in train terms, they're all just on parallel tracks. He doesn't care about what they're doing. I kinda loved that swing between Den-Parado's blitheness and Ryuta's grudging acceptance. It's this throughline of a feeling of equanimity, where all we can do is accept things and move on. It's another Den-O story where no one really wins, despite two rescued Liners and a detonated monster. Ryuta's humbled, Den-Parado is barely inconvenienced, and the train just keeps rolling along. Sometimes the victory is small, personal. Being that slight bit more able to handle our emotions, or get by with what we've got. Walking away from disappointment. That's nothing heroic, maybe, but it's part of getting better as people. That's it, and that's okay. THE BAGGAGE CAR -Okay, how the hell do Yuuto and Ryutaros end up back in the present?! They were both at the train platform in the future, they're fighting Den-Parado and the Lion Imagin (and Dance Dance Ryutalution) on a roof, and then Ryutaros is running to Milk Dipper. At what point did they leave the future and get back to the present? And how did they manage that without either the DenLiner or the ZeroLiner? I genuinely can't see how they managed it, so please fill me in on this plot point. -Having the majority of the train line exposition occur as Owner and Manager have a rice-eating contest (with timer!) was far-and-away the smartest version of that scene. It's a lot of vague Time Nonsense, where we're still just like Ooooh Mysterious Train Line, but it all being conducted over thrilling rice-eating maneuvers forgives a lot of its sins.
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04-03-2021, 08:13 PM | #625 |
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Ah, Owner and his rice shenagins. I forgot just how late into everything he was introduced.
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04-04-2021, 03:34 AM | #626 |
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Man, it is really hard to remind myself that was Hideo 9 years prior to playing the galactic nomad we now love and adore as Ultraman Orb. Man has not changed a bit.
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04-04-2021, 08:45 AM | #627 |
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Seeing Ryutaros' delusion fall apart with him crying after Airi doesn't recognize him is one of the saddest moments I remember from this show. His delusion of taking Ryoutarou's identity as his own and Airi being his big sister made him feel less alone but even though he has good intentions, he can't be the Ryoutarou she knows. Now he has to deal with that truth, that playing pretend can't give him what he wants, which shows that there is a limit to what imagination can do. There is still that thing called reality which people have to fight and the reality for him is that he comes from a future without a family. That's not going to change unless he actually shows people who he really is. I have a lot of pity for him.
The Train Terminal is a cool location since it allows the Imagins to physically interact with the world and fight outside of Den-O. He was introduced at the start though.
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04-04-2021, 09:29 AM | #628 |
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He probably confused the Owner with the Station Master.
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04-04-2021, 10:21 AM | #629 |
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Seeing Ryutaros' delusion fall apart with him crying after Airi doesn't recognize him is one of the saddest moments I remember from this show. His delusion of taking Ryoutarou's identity as his own and Airi being his big sister made him feel less alone but even though he has good intentions, he can't be the Ryoutarou she knows. Now he has to deal with that truth, that playing pretend can't give him what he wants, which shows that there is a limit to what imagination can do. There is still that thing called reality which people have to fight and the reality for him is that he comes from a future without a family. That's not going to change unless he actually shows people who he really is. I have a lot of pity for him.
That said, if there's one non-fight-geography problem in this episode (HOW DO RYUTAROS AND YUUTO LEAVE THE TRAIN TERMINAL), it's that this is another Airi story that doesn't have much use for Airi as a person. It's about Ryuta's feelings about Airi, and about Yuuto's feelings about Airi, but Airi doesn't get much of a voice in this story of two people treating her as a prize. Also incredibly sad! But for different reasons!
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04-04-2021, 02:02 PM | #630 |
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Androzani's got it, entirely from the contextual clues.
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