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09-09-2018, 10:17 AM | #11 |
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The episode was enjoyable, but I'm just so confused. They made it a point last week to have two seperate 2017s, the "destroyed" Build timeline and the main timeline. Sooooo, the fuck?
The "Teamup" happens in 2017, Sento and Banjo lose their memories of the Build world (and themselfs) after the battle but regain them in 2018. So like, why do they lose their memories? Did the merge bring them back to 2017? I initially thought this was a case of "Oh okay so in the main timeline they're Katsuragi and OG-Banjo untill the timeline syncs and they regain their memories." But that doesn't make much sense either. Maybe with subs it'll make sense but from the small amount I understood through context, those two were the Sento and Banjo that Zi-O met in episode 1, on the main timeline. Two episodes in and Toei proves time travel is really hard to write for. Last edited by Damienthathedge; 09-09-2018 at 10:25 AM.. |
09-09-2018, 10:56 AM | #12 |
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the very second Sougo ended up at a point the sky wall is still existing in 2017, I think we should have stopped trying to find any time and space coherence.
So far it's like the world merge didn't happen (and nothing we've seen about Build in these 2 episodes can make us think the merge actually happened) and it feels like the writers don't give a sh*t about making everything, especially endings, canon (and somehow that's a good point) |
09-09-2018, 11:01 AM | #13 |
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I just watched the 2.5 extra episode where Katsuragi explains the time paradox in episode 2. Base on my limited Japanese knowledge, this is what I got:
- The same Rider cannot co-exist in the same timeline - When Another Rider is created, it officially replaces the original Rider and the timeline is altered - Katsuragi/Sento and Banjou temporary regained their memories in episode 2 because Geiz temporary defeated Another Build at that moment - Katsuragi says due to the time paradox, the events in Build series NEVER HAPPENED - Banjou asks if the events in Build never happened then why Katsuragi still has Sento's face. Katsuragi dodges the question by saying "there are still things science can't explain" and asks Banjou "then why are you still having Evolt's DNA if Build never happen?" So there we have it, looks like Zi-O will mess the timeline a lot. Let's see if they will fix it back or retcon Rider's history |
09-09-2018, 11:15 AM | #14 |
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I just watched the 2.5 extra episode where Katsuragi explains the time paradox in episode 2. Base on my limited Japanese knowledge, this is what I got:
- The same Rider cannot co-exist in the same timeline - When Another Rider is created, it officially replaces the original Rider and the timeline is altered - Katsuragi/Sento and Banjou temporary regained their memories in episode 2 because Geiz temporary defeated Another Build at that moment - Katsuragi says due to the time paradox, the events in Build series NEVER HAPPENED - Banjou asks if the events in Build never happened then why Katsuragi still has Sento's face. Katsuragi dodges the question by saying "there are still things science can't explain" and asks Banjou "then why are you still having Evolt's DNA if Build never happen?" So there we have it, looks like Zi-O will mess the timeline a lot. Let's see if they will fix it back or retcon Rider's history |
09-09-2018, 11:17 AM | #15 |
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Classic Toei crossover logic lol
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09-09-2018, 04:58 PM | #16 |
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If only there are subbers covering the 1.5 and 2.5 mini episodes. Looks like they are not just omake episodes, but cover essential episode questions.
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09-09-2018, 05:13 PM | #17 |
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Over-time intends to do them, they're just waiting for their editor to get back from holiday or something. Plus, TvNihon will do them at some point. TVNihon does everything
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09-09-2018, 10:19 PM | #18 |
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EDIT: and having watched 1.5, it's skipable, if somewhat interesting. I just explained the meaning behind the names of the main three. Interestingly, the secondary rider's name is ALSO derived from the concept of a king. It's pretty short and more informative than entertaining, but it's not essential. Last edited by catwhowalks; 09-09-2018 at 10:25 PM.. |
09-09-2018, 11:00 PM | #19 |
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Sougo is a lot better character in this episode compared to the one-dimensional guy he was in the first episode. He's still naive and optimistic, but now shows promise for a character growth.
I really love how quickly Geiz becomes his ally in such a short span of time. The bit where after the battle where Sento claims he's Katsuragi and acted like Build never happened confused me, but then it makes sense. Basically when Sougo gives him the blank Ridewatch it sets the path to where Sento regains his memories (and presumably Build's powers) earlier in the episode. |
09-09-2018, 11:01 PM | #20 |
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The whole physics defying our general knowledge thing again as an excuse. It's like the goseigreen/blackranger thing in megaforce. It's better to not over think a kids show and go psychological /philosophical. I wonder there will be Time travel paradox where geiz and tsukiyomi along with the time jackers is what created zio shift in personality. I don't see the show going back to classic Heisei with crazy dramatic mental breakdown especially the opening is very digimon/yugioh like. Last edited by VoidinToku; 09-09-2018 at 11:07 PM.. |
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