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06-12-2023, 12:37 AM | #11 |
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I personally think that numbered distinctions after Tertiary are mostly irrelevant and not even a confirmed thing by Toei. Even then I?m still somewhat shakey on the third rider destinction even though there is stuff that validates it. On a quick side note, I think that if you view the Secondary Rider destinction as which rider most fits the role of primary sidekick it all adds up.
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06-12-2023, 12:50 AM | #12 |
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My main problem with the tertiary destinction it’s only really clear during two stretches Agito-Hibiki, Gaim-Present. Kabuto is a mess in that regard. Den-O, W, and Fourze depend on whether or not you include movie riders. OOO depends on how you view the status of Proto-Birth. The only one’s during that stretch that I feel are really clear cut are Kiva with Saga and Wizard with Mayu’s Mage. This again goes down to marketing. Tertiary riders didn’t becoming a regulary marketed destinction until relatively recently. Secondaries are much more clear cut due to every series since Kuuga having at least two prominent riders in show.
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06-12-2023, 01:25 AM | #13 |
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Reality is that a Riders role is whatever Toei/Bandai decides it to be and most likely in any future promo, or special, etc. it'll be PunkJack that'll be shown alongside the main 4. I can almost 110% guarantee Nudge Sparrow will never be acknowledged by Toei/Bandai in any meaningful way after Geats is over.
But on the contrary, it seems to me that Nadge is still in the post-content will light up. Or maybe even in the anniversary project. For a very long time, the show does not want to part with him. Although maybe, due to the lack of charismatic villains, they need at least an annoying one. |
06-12-2023, 01:29 AM | #14 |
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My main problem with the tertiary destinction it?s only really clear during two stretches Agito-Hibiki, Gaim-Present. Kabuto is a mess in that regard. Den-O, W, and Fourze depend on whether or not you include movie riders. OOO depends on how you view the status of Proto-Birth. The only one?s during that stretch that I feel are really clear cut are Kiva with Saga and Wizard with Mayu?s Mage. This again goes down to marketing. Tertiary riders didn?t becoming a regulary marketed destinction until relatively recently. Secondaries are much more clear cut due to every series since Kuuga having at least two prominent riders in show.
Personally, I judge a tertiary rider compared to Gills. That is, the tertiary is the one who suffers the most for the entire show. In this regard, in the Geats, it is without a doubt Na-Go, who, in my opinion, cries most then all female riders before her. Last edited by Mesnick; 06-12-2023 at 01:36 AM.. |
06-12-2023, 01:50 AM | #15 |
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I just wish Gills was more relevant to Agito as a whole. The guy goes through massive swaths of episodes without even interacting with the other main cast members.
Anyway, whoever is tertiary doesn't really matter. It's not like Toei is chomping at the bit to do a "Tertiary Rider Ultimate Team Up!" special. Outsiders is bringing back villain/antagonistic riders. Girls Remix brought back a swath of female riders. The classification of tertiary doesn't really hold much ground beyond trying to decide which character has marginally more importance to the plot. Often times, such as this case, it's difficult to say. Na-Go may suffer more, but Michinaga's actions tend to directly alter the plot's trajectory.
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06-12-2023, 09:08 AM | #16 |
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In the original, he wrote: 平和な世界 Heiwana Sekai. "Heiwana" in addition to peaceful can also mean calm, harmonious, ideal and, in fact, happy. Keiwa, of course, is an idealist, but he seemed to be volunteering in a kindergarten, not anti-war demonstrations, so I doubt his pacifism and the correctness of the chosen translation. Rather, the difference is that Keiwa's desire is for a happy society, while Ace's desire is for everyone's individual happiness.
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I personally think that numbered distinctions after Tertiary are mostly irrelevant and not even a confirmed thing by Toei. Even then I?m still somewhat shakey on the third rider destinction even though there is stuff that validates it. On a quick side note, I think that if you view the Secondary Rider destinction as which rider most fits the role of primary sidekick it all adds up.
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My main problem with the tertiary destinction it?s only really clear during two stretches Agito-Hibiki, Gaim-Present. Kabuto is a mess in that regard. Den-O, W, and Fourze depend on whether or not you include movie riders. OOO depends on how you view the status of Proto-Birth. The only one?s during that stretch that I feel are really clear cut are Kiva with Saga and Wizard with Mayu?s Mage. This again goes down to marketing. Tertiary riders didn?t becoming a regulary marketed destinction until relatively recently. Secondaries are much more clear cut due to every series since Kuuga having at least two prominent riders in show.
Ryuki, since Zolda came before Ouja but Ouja has more Monsters and recently the third Survive Card. Hibiki, since Zanki didn't show up in the movie but Todoroki was still called "Todoyama" at the time of his debut. Kabuto, it's a mess, like you said. Personally, I give it to Sasword. Decade, whether you believe Yuusuke qualifies. Gaim, since Zangetsu was playable in Battride War Sousei instead of Ryugen and the war in Episode 1 was between Orange, Banana and Melon. Quote:
But yeah, like, Sixth Rangers aren't always sixth, but they're still "Sixth", so it seems weird to hold Rider to a higher standard of logic.
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06-12-2023, 09:33 AM | #17 |
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In this case, everything is clear enough for me. During the show itself, Zolda was considered tertiary, but after, due to the charisma of the character and the willingness of the actor to return, Ouja took his place. By the way, the same thing happens with Genm, only much faster and more brazenly. As for the Asakura monster trio, given that even Ryuki and Knight didn't get any extra pets, it's not a coolness of the character, but an attempt to make him an even more dangerous and terrifying villain.
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06-12-2023, 09:40 AM | #18 |
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If we talk about the importance to the main story, then in Geats, the secondary and tertiary riders should be PunkJack and Beroba, because without them, Ace played DGP for another 2000 years, having no idea what happened to his mother. |
06-12-2023, 09:47 AM | #19 |
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For Ghost onwards the answer is pretty simple in terms of who are the main trio that Toei advertises as like the Primary, Secondary, Tertiary Trinity.
Just look at the Oronamin C Ads, simple as that. |
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