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05-26-2020, 10:40 AM | #331 |
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Mr. J and Murakami's stuff.... Murakami is presented as a irredeemable villain, but so far, it seems that Murakami (and probably other Lucky Clover) tolerates their minions/henchmen for losing 2 lives and faiing....
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Yeah, Takumi's introversion is probably always going to make things difficult with Mari's bullheadedness (which worked great on Kaido) and Keitaro's clinginess (which worked great on Yuka). The fact that these three are still friends after eighteen episodes is maybe the most heroic thing of all!
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I guess it's the difference between someone being right, and someone having a point. Kusaka's zero-tolerance policy for Orphnochs, along with his I Just Like Beating Things motivation, he's not right. But he still has a point when he tells Takumi that refusing to fight because things are complicated isn't a great solution.
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05-26-2020, 08:09 PM | #332 |
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That's from Kuuga, only three years earlier! Quote:
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It's a shame Mr. J had to die since his interaction with Keiko showed he still had some good in him, which confirms what Takumi was thinking about Orphenochs in the previous arc. He just wanted to provide a good life for Chaco and he was forced in to his position by Murakami's threats. At least his death was honorable and Chaco got a new home. It's the worst part of being a Kamen Rider that Takumi understands now, having to kill potentially good people to stop them from killing other people.
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05-26-2020, 08:49 PM | #333 |
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Ah! Can't believe I've just stumbled upon this thread! Kamen Rider Faiz is definitely one of my top favorite Rider series along with Gaim and W and I'm extremely glad that you're liking what you're watching thus far! Hope you'll give the movie a shot as well as I personally think it's one of the best standalone movies in the franchise.
As for the series itself, I can understand why it's divisive, and even agree with some of the points (most of which has to do with the plot in the latter half). Regardless of the plot, I just love these characters that are so real and grounded and it is the characters that make the series for me. Humanizing the monsters is something that Kamen Rider really doesn't do enough. Of course, the suits, action and Rider Gear are all top-notch and are among the best in the franchise. Auto Vajin (his bike) is also my favorite Kamen Rider bike and one of my top favorite robot designs in all of fiction. Not only is the transformation really elegant, the bike functions as not only a simple mode of transport, but as a support mecha that can actively help Faiz out even during combat. That's brilliant. |
05-26-2020, 10:10 PM | #334 |
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It's obviously in character yeah for Keitaro to be taken advantage by others because of his dream. But man... that'd mean Keitaro could make for a bad parent (cmiiw). If it's like that, Keitaro can be the kind to spoil his child to no end, which actually would make the child grow up to be terrible and likely won't happy because spoiled one would never be satisfied for ever.
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Ah! Can't believe I've just stumbled upon this thread! Kamen Rider Faiz is definitely one of my top favorite Rider series along with Gaim and W and I'm extremely glad that you're liking what you're watching thus far! Hope you'll give the movie a shot as well as I personally think it's one of the best standalone movies in the franchise.
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As for the series itself, I can understand why it's divisive, and even agree with some of the points (most of which has to do with the plot in the latter half). Regardless of the plot, I just love these characters that are so real and grounded and it is the characters that make the series for me. Humanizing the monsters is something that Kamen Rider really doesn't do enough. Of course, the suits, action and Rider Gear are all top-notch and are among the best in the franchise.
Having so much time spent on their motivations, their fears, and having it mostly be unrelated to belts and heroes and smiles and whatever, it leads to incredibly deep characters. Thanks again for finding this discussion!
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05-26-2020, 10:27 PM | #335 |
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Oh no, there are four of them and it's very much an elite membership thing. You're going to see Mistah J's open seat being a major issue in upcoming episodes.
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05-26-2020, 11:22 PM | #336 |
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I mean, at their first meeting they mentioned a guy who wasn't there, so I just assumed. But, yep, the empty seat comes up in Episode 20!
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05-26-2020, 11:31 PM | #337 |
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KAMEN RIDER 555 EPISODE 20
--1-- Oh my god, YOU GUYS. This episode was... it's like my wish got granted. This episode is all of my Faiz hopes and dreams, even the ones I didn't dare speak aloud, bundled together. It moved from strength to strength to delirious delight, and I almost don't want to watch another episode, because I've already touched the face of God. --2-- When this one started, it was already making me happy in the very first scene. I love the minutiae of Team Faiz, the stuff they do between fighting to "Dead or Alive” and the next time someone shouts Orphnoch. I like the little domestic scenes of them at work. I like the admission that Keitaro is a very hard worker but probably an extremely poor businessman. (Although, he's only paying Takumi 100 yen an hour, so maybe he's smarter than he's given credit?) All that stuff is great. Then the show ups the ante by having Yuka hang out with Mari, while Keitaro hangs out with Kaido. The stuff with the boys is incredibly cute, them exclaiming their love for Mari and Yuka, and it's so charming how romantic these two characters are. They're ruled by their passions, and it's a blast to see them bond over that trait. The scene with the girls is one of my all-time favorite in the show, and it's such a small thing. Everything in it is so naturalistic, just two young women sharing their insecurities, gossiping about dumb boys, and enjoying each other's company. They're surrounded by men all the rest of the time, so it's nice to see them get a little time to hang out with other women. It's a little bit of a shame that the talk turns so quickly to their romances, though. Which is the problem, and it sends this show into a higher gear, putting my brain on a very high boil. A double-date between these four characters, with Mari realizing that her new friend Yuka is in love with Kaido, who's crushing on Mari, while her old friend Keitaro is crushing on Yuka... it's the best. I could not imagine how this show could come up with something so perfectly suited to my tastes. Until all four of them took a job at a pizza place. I say this with absolutely no hyperbole, but if that concept existed as a separate show I would quit Faiz and start a thread on that show tomorrow. I would never look back. That idea is so flawless, that... I was so happy. I was so into that. I could watch a million hours of that idea. That's, like, the top of the mountain in entertainment. Until all four of them got sick and asked Takumi and Yuuji to fill in for them. !!! !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! When Yuka and Kaido are begging Yuuji to take over their shift, I was begging louder than they were. Takumi and Yuuji working together in a pizza place is the fanfic of my dreams, and somehow it is canon. This... my heart. I don't know what to do with all of this joy. --3-- I was so into the romantic comedy escapades of these idiots that I honestly wasn't super dialed in for most of the Lucky Clover stuff. I liked it, I like those characters, but it was silver to the other plot's solid gold. Kageyama's a compelling character, but most of what she's doing in this one is bumping off nobodies. Nice to see her work, but it didn't really start to pop until she (literally!) whips Horsepower's ass. Mr. J became not that much of a threat by his third death, so it's great to see the other members keeping their heat. And, y'know, Houjou. Speaking of my dreams given form, Houjou versus Faiz? Yes. Hell yes. He immediately knocks him out of his Henshin, stealing the belt and Faiz phone in less time than it took Mr. J to transform. He's a beast, and I'm into him being Faiz for a minute. --4-- Which, of course Takumi and Yuuji are running for their lives in the same warehouse, and of course they both got knocked out of their superpowered forms, and of course Yuuji sees Houjou Henshin into Faiz. It's so perfectly arranged, I'm not mad at a single note of it. It's such a great cliffhanger for the show. I genuinely wouldn't be upset if the two of them go on the run together, and that's what this show is for the next 30 episodes. --5-- This episode, you guys. It's all overheated romantic hijinks and supporting cast subplots, and easily my favorite episode of this show. I don't give a shit that there's barely one Faiz fight at the end. I don't give a shit that Takumi is backgrounded for 80% of this episode. Just plug Four Idiots Have Romantic Misadventures Until They Get Sick And Takumi And Yuuji Need To Work Together At A Pizza Place into my veins.
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05-27-2020, 01:43 AM | #338 |
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I really forgot how funny Faiz can be. The double date with each participant having not only their own locked expression but accompanying theme music was just delightful, as were Takumi and Yuuji squirming to stay out of all this ridiculousness.
I'm really glad I decided to watch the show again with you because it's really making me re-evaluate my stance on it. Faiz has lived on in my memory for so long by its worst elements that I'd completely buried all the good. Truth be told, back when I was first watching the show I really loved it up to a point. It wasn't until someone pointed out the tendency towards poor communication that I started seeing it all over the place and my opinion of the entire series soured (not completely, mind you, there's one moment near the very end that I loved and still want to see get its own spin-off series - it involves a frying pan and it is fantastic). That's basically what Faiz has been for me in all the time since then: just a memory of its worst elements and a mental block on all the good. I'm not sure if my revised opinion will hold - I know some of the stuff that's coming up and there's definitely some moments in there - but for now I'm really happy to be seeing this show in a new light. |
05-27-2020, 02:06 AM | #339 |
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You see Faiz's main motif was actually a pizza all along, his helmet featuring the image of one sliced in two.
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05-27-2020, 12:41 PM | #340 |
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The fight against Fungus The Clown isn’t even the memorable fight from the episode! Faiz’s fight against Horsepower was pretty great (with Horsepower going to Four-Legged Drive mode), but the final Faiz Fight against Mr. J had one of the coolest finishes this show has had yet.
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