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05-17-2018, 07:24 PM | #61 |
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It also describes Ex-Aid pretty well too, for when you get to it, although it's writing really takes a nose dive in the thirties. Really solid show up until then, though - I can recommend. Tonally, it's quite close to Build, although its more reliant on gags than Build...whose only real gag was 'Banjou always kinkshames Sento finding Best Matches, lolz' - and that was both dropped very fast, and even worked into canon via him being Martian in origin. I'd bet money it was his inner Evolto helping him out (speaking of, how clever is that name? The guy goes on about evolution and has a penchant for speaking in Italian...then we find out his name is 'Evolution' in Italian). |
05-17-2018, 08:49 PM | #62 |
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I want the next show to be trippy, whatever the tone. I mean, most Rider shows are pretty weird and Build is certainly no exception, I just want it to be tonally a bit weirder - like Inoue, but without his huge drawbacks (character non-building, convenient plot twists, crappy communication) - like his work on Agito. Or, it's not his work but, Blade is a goodexample of weird. I could definitely go for some weird comedy.
I'd also like there to be a bit more bike focus! I realize that bike stuff is hellishly expensive and dangerous but, at the same time - they're so damn COOL!
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05-19-2018, 05:09 AM | #63 |
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Yes, every Rider show is about "a man using evil powers to save lives and preserve justice and hope". My point is that for a lot of recent shows that gets drowned out in favor of excessive toy shilling and bad comedy. Fourze, Wizard, Drive, Ghost, all of them had the potential to do so much more with what they had, and they did have stuff to work with. Instead we get the adventures of Shunpei, SCU mental cases, and Onari and Akari's stupid science vs. supernatural bouts. Even making Donut Man Poitrine in Movie War Ultimatum instead of really doing a cool Avengers-esque crossover between Wizard, Fourze, Poitrine, Inazuman and Akumaizer-3 left me face-palming. Last edited by Black Fang; 05-19-2018 at 05:13 AM.. |
05-19-2018, 05:54 AM | #64 |
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I thought making the Doughnut Shop Hungry manager Poitrine was a nice way to imply that she was trans, myself. Nice representation, you know?
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05-19-2018, 08:49 AM | #65 |
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Except it served no purpose other than as a throwaway joke. That's not much of a service to an old Ishinomori heroine that they could've done something better with. Toei has beocme an expert at wasting material.
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05-19-2018, 11:23 AM | #66 |
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I think I could go for something a bit lighter and like Fourze this time around too. Ex-Aid and Build are both really enjoyable but also just exhausting in some ways since they are almost constantly bombarding you with AWESOME PLOT. I by and large prefer shows like this but I feel like I need to catch my breath.
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05-19-2018, 12:01 PM | #67 |
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I think I could go for something a bit lighter and like Fourze this time around too. Ex-Aid and Build are both really enjoyable but also just exhausting in some ways since they are almost constantly bombarding you with AWESOME PLOT. I by and large prefer shows like this but I feel like I need to catch my breath.
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05-19-2018, 12:19 PM | #68 |
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All a matter of balance. TOEI keeps pumping shows with similar tones and whatnot it can bring down the franchise by being stale. An upbeat show once in a while is always welcome and vice versa.
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05-20-2018, 06:25 AM | #69 |
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Eh. I genuinely don't see the issue. At the end of the day it's a kid's show and while they can be dark and gritty, that isn't the norm. Fourze worked excellently, having great toy sales and was deliberately made to be a more lighthearted, friendly show due to the 2011 earthquake. After two more edgier seasons, a lighthearted one could be welcome. If it still ends up dark, I'll be fine with that but the writing's more important to me than the tone.
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05-20-2018, 06:49 AM | #70 |
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The issue is that a show like Kamen Rider, by its nature, requires a specific tone and specific elements. You can go up and down the scale of how much you want to have, but you can't go too far into the light, wacky nonsense side just because "it's a kids' show" and that's as far as you want to think about it.
Fourze's lighter tone ended up hurting it because of the story it was telling: you can't have a setting where an alien-worshiping cult is running a school seeking out recruits and treat it happy-go-lucky. (I like Fourze for the most part, by the way, but I do think it underachieved.) You can't have a Liveman-esque "Friends, why have you sold your souls to the devil?" setup (where the heroes' fellow classmates are becoming Horoscopes) and not do more with it. Yuki vs Aquarius, JK vs Capricorn, Pisces as a rogue, Ares, Taurus, all could've gone places if they hadn't rushed through the Horoscopes to get to the ending, and used these characters for longer arcs. This whole "be light in the face of real-life bad stuff" is the argument for Ohranger's schizophrenia. I think that was a missed opportunity also: a "hope over adversity" message with maybe some tweaking of the original story (but not to the extent that they did) could've worked and been much more meaningful. |
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