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09-12-2013, 07:27 AM | #91 |
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Out of story, it's because that suit is so damn heavy that they can't use it for very long. It's either have it for those brief moments of awesome or go all-out CGI like the third season has done, and Garo doesn't really have the budget to do that very convincingly unfortunately.
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09-12-2013, 07:29 AM | #92 |
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Yeah, reminiscing on some of your earlier posts about Kamen Rider I know for a fact you won't like it
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09-12-2013, 07:33 AM | #93 |
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Take Garo 2 for example. The Horror's main attack was her bladed chain things, and the whole episode flip flopped between practical stunts with real chains (or at least plastic panted to look like chains or whatever) and CGI flips with CGI chains. Now not only were the CGI chains unnecessary and shit looking but it only made it look even worse that just a second later you were doing it practically just fine.
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09-12-2013, 08:09 PM | #94 |
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For the third season, there's a reason why they changed to all CG
Togen no Fue, Soukoku no Maryu and Yami wo Terasu Mono were all filmed together last year, believe it or not. So when episode 1 was aired it had already finished filming all episodes. This is probably why the action is reduced, they probably had to spread the budget to all three projects. Considering how they film a the same time, the original suit was probably used for Soukoku no Maryu.
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09-12-2013, 09:09 PM | #95 |
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For the third season, there's a reason why they changed to all CG
Togen no Fue, Soukoku no Maryu and Yami wo Terasu Mono were all filmed together last year, believe it or not. So when episode 1 was aired it had already finished filming all episodes. This is probably why the action is reduced, they probably had to spread the budget to all three projects. Considering how they film a the same time, the original suit was probably used for Soukoku no Maryu. |
09-12-2013, 09:22 PM | #96 |
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Read the article before, didn't really care. Considering how Gouraigan still used actual suits, I don't think Keita Amemiya would approved using total CG without any reason. Even if he was not involved in Yami O Terasu Mono as he was busy doing Soukoku no Maryu and Tougen no Fue, they would still consult to him for this kind of things.
Also, episode 23 of Yami o Terasu Mono, they finally used a the real GARO suit, the original one no the new Ryuga version. Soukoku no Maryu also used the real GARO suit and it and Yami o Terasu Mono was shot at the same time. I think that's the more likely reason. Then again, most Tokusatsu fans seems to prefer the "production doesn't care and just want the easy way" reasons rather than some logistical reasons in which they have to resort to doing cost cutting measure.
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09-12-2013, 09:23 PM | #97 |
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For the third season, there's a reason why they changed to all CG
Togen no Fue, Soukoku no Maryu and Yami wo Terasu Mono were all filmed together last year, believe it or not. So when episode 1 was aired it had already finished filming all episodes. This is probably why the action is reduced, they probably had to spread the budget to all three projects. Considering how they film a the same time, the original suit was probably used for Soukoku no Maryu. It showed up in Taiwan and then France afterwards, doing promotion for the DVD box outside Japan. Fujita Rei was with the suit in France at the time. Amemiya is a digital game freak. He visualizes his work digitally at the very beginning, and when Takeya has time (which he doesn't. He got his work exbition to prepare) it will be made into an actually "thing". Otherwise all work will stay digital for the rest of its life. |
09-12-2013, 09:34 PM | #98 |
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Wow, I know about the tour in France, but I definitely didn't know it was the actual suit for filming, I thought it was some spare suit use for promotions. So, how many suits are there? Soukoku no Maryu definitely used a real suit except for the Blue Dragon form.
Using digital to visualize work is not uncommon, digital per-visualization is used everywhere even in Hollywood. It can be more useful than ordinary storyboard. Just because he used digital visualization doesn't mean that production team can only use CG after the visualization is done. Then again, in the end, it's the time available for making the actual suit or props that is crucial. Keita Amemiya is just the illustrator and designer not suit maker, IIRC. In film production, if you don't have time to make the deadline, then you have to make do with what is available. I'm studying film production, this kind of things are pretty basic
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09-12-2013, 10:45 PM | #99 |
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There is one overweight "shiny" suit, and one slightly-overweight "action" suit. There is no spare. Zero, and Dan got the light-weighted suits only. The gold chromed suit used to be displayed at the Garo-shop, but the display section has been minimized lately. I don't think they are going to re-display the suit there anymore.
Takeya is the actual designer of the suits. Amemiya did the rough sketches, and Takeya got the actual form and details finished. There is this "Team Amemiya" thing. If it is not Takeya's design things will not be accepted by fans. This is the reason why the armors in Yami wo Terasu Mono has so much problem among garo fans (designer hasn't been announced). |
09-12-2013, 11:51 PM | #100 |
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I see.
About the designer, yeah, Keita Amemiya is pretty much only design how it look on papers. That's why he's credited as character designer/illustrator, those guys usually make how the design is on paper, the rest of that, it's up to somebody else. It's like how an anime can have designs from a famous character designer during pre production but how they end up on screen can be quite different, due to the difference between the designer's style and the actual animator's style. I hope they won't have a a hectic schedule for the new GARO project so they can actually use all the resources available. ZERO will have his own spin off It will be 6 episode mini series and each episode will be 30 minutes http://garo-project.jp/ZERO/ There's also going to be a new project for GARO, no word yet on what it is, will update when there's more news http://garo-project.jp/event/2013-1123/
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