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08-12-2019, 12:25 PM | #21 |
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My main takeaway from Zi-O is that it's a really feelgood fun show. It's not meant to be taken too seriously, or contemplated and understood as concretely.
I mean, we know the Riders can travel forward and backward in time. It's just more so the Another Rider stuff that's somewhat incomprehensible. All I know is that the watches have a Rider's powers, which means the Rider and their show are "somewhat" rendered moot, unless the watch is given to their appropriate owner. All the Rider shows are separate worlds, but also not, because of timeline shenanigans. And this whole watch-cracking epidemic is basically causing every event to happen in one timeline, which, if left unchecked, means the world(s) will be destroyed. That's my understanding of current events. And I think I'm pretty happy with that theory. But I digress. Back to reflection.
Legit, look at their Twitters and Instas. They're being so heccin' adorable. Such a lovely family. I wish them nothing but joy in the years to come.
And instead of pulling a Gokaiger and having the main plot be nonexistant for the sake of legacy appearances, or pulling a Decade and having the legacy appearances be someone totally different (e.g. AR Kuuga, AR Kiva) they actually managed to find a good middle ground. The plot and characters have progressed and developed at a good pace, and in the second half, we find some pretty solid closure on many unfinished/unhappy past storylines (looking at you, Blade arc and Hibiki arc).
So much hype. Heisei Generations FOREVER had pretty much every rider show up and partake in an awesome action scene. Over Quartzer had some very unexpected tributes show up.
I'm a bit upset we didn't get to hear the Time Jacker song in-show (there was one performed at a press conference) and potentially (unless they drop it next episode) When The Moon Is Full (a Tsukuyomi-sung song released in that recent Heisei song collection). But at least we got to hear Toki No Ouja, Future Guardian, Black & White, that oh-so-Middle-Eastern Zi-O battle theme, that odd dramatic "dun dun" theme we hear whenever Zi-O does something epic or Woz IWAEs, and some bops from past shows. This show is a pretty decent sendoff to the Heisei era. I mean, I loved it.
As others have said, he seems rather disconnected with modern Rider. Which isn't bad, but I'd expect he be a bit open to the concept that these shows aren't ALL connected- just a few (or maybe it's just "Zi-O shenanigans" that explain the mixing of worlds in the crossover films). He's said (IIRC when working on Amazons 2016) that modern rider has "lost its edge" and he overall doesn't seem to favor the newer series. Shirakura also tends to believe that villains being super-active makes Rider more Sentai-esque. Which explains why most shows he's directed (Agito, Ryuki, Kabuto, Faiz, Decade, etc) have the villains take action near the end, and sometimes show up with mysterious motives. I'll admit, it's not my cup of tea, but I guess it's fine. I just don't like villains-outta-nowhere with little to no foreshadowing, which seems to be what he goes for in some cases. Last edited by MangaArtist18; 08-12-2019 at 12:36 PM.. |
08-12-2019, 01:15 PM | #22 |
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Shirakura really is the reason Zi-O can't achieve its full potential. Despite that, it's nitbthe worst Heisei series, far from it. I mean the only episodes I hated are Kikai and Kiva arcs.
Regarding the Decade power, he is the only Rider unaffected by Ridewatches stealing his power. It is possible that the Decade Ridewatch is a duplicate for backup purposes, as evidenced by this episode.
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08-12-2019, 09:34 PM | #23 |
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I'll be waiting up until the very end to see if this is as disappointing as Build's ending.
Because yeah, I loved Build, but that ending where they just went to another Earth and let their own be destroyed was utter shit. I like Zi-O for what it is but I fear that the ending will suck. I hadn't as much expectations as I had for Build ( after Ex-aid) because Build second half was retrospectively just atrocious. Perhaps that's the reason why I'm enjoying the series so far. I still dislike they revive Gentoku and Kasumi...... |
08-12-2019, 10:21 PM | #24 |
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A bit of trivia, Decade's appearance in this episode is actually his 47th tv appearance. So Decade now has the same amount of appearances as regular Riders.
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08-15-2019, 08:07 AM | #25 |
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So, it turns out, even four years on, Chase's death still hits me way too hard.
O-T Subs are out for both the past two episodes, and I gotta say, even if the actual mechanics behind everything are a little confusing (I think I've got it somewhat figured out, but that's my own theory, nothing canon), it doesn't really matter. What matters is, Schwartz wants to fuse the world to destroy them, Decade's gained Zi-O's powers, and things are looking bad. I know we all made jokes about wanting Decade Series 2, but it looks like that's what we've got. Characterwise, everything's great, even if I now want to rewatch the original Another Woz arc remind myself what exactly he was working for the entire time, because he certainly seemed shady. Or maybe that's just how people be in the future.
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08-15-2019, 08:40 AM | #26 |
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Overall enjoyed the last arc so far, I like how this is basically ending like Decade began, with the worlds about to be destroyed as everything tries to exist at once.
Decade is always a treat, same with Kaito. Watching Chase's mind cause him severe pain and agony since he is remembering things that he should not even have experienced in the timeline he was ripped from as well due to it... Why must Chase always suffer ? D: |
08-15-2019, 09:13 AM | #27 |
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If Tsukuyomi and Geiz are from different dimension, meaning are they the ones that actually caused oma zi-o to appear in the first place? Time paradox...
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08-15-2019, 09:32 AM | #28 |
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You know honestly this new revelation in Zi-O just has me thinking on how long Swartz could have possibly been doing this plan.
This plan could have been in the works since 2009 with the original merge. Step 1. Merge the Worlds together to either destroy or create a new world Step 2. Allow more Riders to be born into the merged world Step 3. At the peak remove more than half of the Riders and their enemies from history. Step 4. Allow space time alterations to weaken the world before breaking the things that removed riders and enemies from space and time. Step 5. Everything begins to get squished together in a rapid pace and thus the destruction of the world from either space time events or Tsukasa decides to do it. |
08-15-2019, 10:17 AM | #29 |
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I don't like this show. I think with only 2 episodes left I can safely make that judgment now.
They went up and beyond with the cameos and that's all an anniversary season really needs, so I can't complain in that department. The rest is a brain dead, stupid, boring mess. The characters don’t work, the story is laughably awful, and they spend way too much time tracking back and forward on character development. The amount of times Geiz and Tsukuyomi went form "We kill Sougo" to "We like Sougo" is ridiculous. Beyond a few very well done tributes to past Rider shows there's nothing good to witness here. I feel like this is the kind of show were you can safely recommend the handful of episodes which are actually good and just skip the rest. A very lackluster sendoff to the Heisei era; which in of itself was amazing. Kinda sucks that it ends with a stinker but oh well, at least some of the tributes were fun and lots of recurring actors could shine once more. |
08-15-2019, 03:47 PM | #30 |
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I don't like this show. I think with only 2 episodes left I can safely make that judgment now.
They went up and beyond with the cameos and that's all an anniversary season really needs, so I can't complain in that department. The rest is a brain dead, stupid, boring mess. The characters don’t work, the story is laughably awful, and they spend way too much time tracking back and forward on character development. The amount of times Geiz and Tsukuyomi went form "We kill Sougo" to "We like Sougo" is ridiculous. Beyond a few very well done tributes to past Rider shows there's nothing good to witness here. I feel like this is the kind of show were you can safely recommend the handful of episodes which are actually good and just skip the rest. A very lackluster sendoff to the Heisei era; which in of itself was amazing. Kinda sucks that it ends with a stinker but oh well, at least some of the tributes were fun and lots of recurring actors could shine once more. |
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