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09-20-2012, 10:23 AM | #1021 |
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PS Enjoy the best Rider series ever |
09-20-2012, 10:28 AM | #1022 |
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We'll never know for sure as I don't think Grongis and Unkowns ever meet (Unless it was in a crossover group shot), but I figure they are just different rather than "stronger." G3 doesn't have the tools to fight Unknowns, but he gets them later.
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09-20-2012, 10:37 AM | #1023 |
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Couldn't they just give Godai a call ?
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09-20-2012, 10:39 AM | #1024 |
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In at least one version of the Kuuga/Agito backstory I've read the Lords had at one point protected the Rinto from the Grongi. I don't remember why they stopped - possibly the Overlord of Darkness's defeat - but they eventually did and that's one of the factors that contributed to the Rinto having to create Kuuga. That would involve getting Joe Odagiri to willingly work in tokusatsu again. He pretty much turned his back on the genre to focus on films. |
09-20-2012, 11:19 AM | #1025 |
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In at least one version of the Kuuga/Agito backstory I've read the Lords had at one point protected the Rinto from the Grongi. I don't remember why they stopped - possibly the Overlord of Darkness's defeat - but they eventually did and that's one of the factors that contributed to the Rinto having to create Kuuga. That would involve getting Joe Odagiri to willingly work in tokusatsu again. He pretty much turned his back on the genre to focus on films. I've been hesitate to mention this theory before because I still feel as if I'm missing a lot from Kuuga due to the Grongi subs not being done. |
09-21-2012, 04:04 PM | #1026 |
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u know wat i just noticed while watching wizard 3, we need to change our top right logo
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09-21-2012, 04:35 PM | #1027 |
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WARNING: Sorry for the long post and SPOILERS
Well I just finished up my second viewing of Kabuto and God Speed Love. I love the show to death but there are some serious issues I never noticed until this second viewing. - Where did the Hopper Zectors come from? How and why were they given to Yaguruma of all people? When Kageyama questioned Mishima about the new rider (Kick Hopper) he had no idea what he was talking about and then we never got any further explanation. - Drake is ridiculously useless and stupid. I stomached him fine the first time but on a second viewing he is an annoying womanizer with little to no substance who is completely absant for a significant portion of the series, entirely absent during the finale, and only shows up in the stupid epilogue. -Dark Kabuto is also utterly useless. When he was approached by the Worm and then attacked them they said they would groom him, that he was currently only a child. Then they died and he did nothing at all except sacrifice himself in the finale. After Hiyori left him he had absolutely no reason to exist. Tendou should have destroyed him long ago. -TheBee. Yaguruma was fine as TheBee. He was a cool guy aside from the whole Kanzen Chowa stuff. Kagami was also just fine as TheBee even if it was brief. But Kageyama is an awful flippant character. Plain and simple. He's greedy, narcicistic, and power mad. He's willing to trade the lives of others for his own and to keep his power. I hated him the entire series but he was slightly more tolerable as Punchhopper. Especially when we got to see Yaguruma kill him -Tsurugi is awesome and then 180's into a complete goofball. 1) Why does he think he's human? There's no trauma that would explain why he for sure thought he was human and had witnessed his sisters death. 2) When he does discover that he's a Worm he somehow manipulates ALL of the other worms to do his bidding? And 3) Why did he sacrifice himself if he'd become a true worm? What the hell was going on with his character at all? He's awesome, then goofy, then awesome, then evil, then dies. What the hell? -God Speed Love is a great movie in all honesty. Other than the useless 3 exclusive riders. Ketaros and Hercus were just fine. But Caucasas? Was just ridiculous. He's no one important at all that I could tell. He's just some random goofy looking guy with the Hyper Zecter and was beaten incredibly easily. And I am definitely someone who believes this movie to be a direct prequel to the TV series. The meteor that hit Shibuya is the one Tendou brought from the future. And the Hyper Kabuto that runs around sort of helping out until TV Kabuto gets the Hyper Zecter is the God Speed Love Tendou. All in all this is still a great show even with these shortcomings. It's fun, has a dark aspect, great rider designs, and a good overall plot. It's just that it's problems do become more apparent in later viewings. It's like they had a ton of great ideas and just fumbled them along the way. I can see where things could have gone better than they did but unfortunately the series hurts from all of the missed opportunities.
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09-21-2012, 05:56 PM | #1028 |
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WARNING: Sorry for the long post and SPOILERS
Well I just finished up my second viewing of Kabuto and God Speed Love. I love the show to death but there are some serious issues I never noticed until this second viewing. - Where did the Hopper Zectors come from? How and why were they given to Yaguruma of all people? When Kageyama questioned Mishima about the new rider (Kick Hopper) he had no idea what he was talking about and then we never got any further explanation. - Drake is ridiculously useless and stupid. I stomached him fine the first time but on a second viewing he is an annoying womanizer with little to no substance who is completely absant for a significant portion of the series, entirely absent during the finale, and only shows up in the stupid epilogue. -Dark Kabuto is also utterly useless. When he was approached by the Worm and then attacked them they said they would groom him, that he was currently only a child. Then they died and he did nothing at all except sacrifice himself in the finale. After Hiyori left him he had absolutely no reason to exist. Tendou should have destroyed him long ago. -TheBee. Yaguruma was fine as TheBee. He was a cool guy aside from the whole Kanzen Chowa stuff. Kagami was also just fine as TheBee even if it was brief. But Kageyama is an awful flippant character. Plain and simple. He's greedy, narcicistic, and power mad. He's willing to trade the lives of others for his own and to keep his power. I hated him the entire series but he was slightly more tolerable as Punchhopper. Especially when we got to see Yaguruma kill him -Tsurugi is awesome and then 180's into a complete goofball. 1) Why does he think he's human? There's no trauma that would explain why he for sure thought he was human and had witnessed his sisters death. 2) When he does discover that he's a Worm he somehow manipulates ALL of the other worms to do his bidding? And 3) Why did he sacrifice himself if he'd become a true worm? What the hell was going on with his character at all? He's awesome, then goofy, then awesome, then evil, then dies. What the hell? -God Speed Love is a great movie in all honesty. Other than the useless 3 exclusive riders. Ketaros and Hercus were just fine. But Caucasas? Was just ridiculous. He's no one important at all that I could tell. He's just some random goofy looking guy with the Hyper Zecter and was beaten incredibly easily. And I am definitely someone who believes this movie to be a direct prequel to the TV series. The meteor that hit Shibuya is the one Tendou brought from the future. And the Hyper Kabuto that runs around sort of helping out until TV Kabuto gets the Hyper Zecter is the God Speed Love Tendou. All in all this is still a great show even with these shortcomings. It's fun, has a dark aspect, great rider designs, and a good overall plot. It's just that it's problems do become more apparent in later viewings. It's like they had a ton of great ideas and just fumbled them along the way. I can see where things could have gone better than they did but unfortunately the series hurts from all of the missed opportunities. 2. been saying this the whole time, drake sucks!!! 3. ehh... i agree. am i the only one who sees that dark kabuto was the one who was the nice of the two 4.y did thebee abandon yaguruma for going a little crazy doing his job but when kageyama joined allegiance with the worm he did nothing! 5.tsurugi for the win! well maybe the worm took too much memory causing him to faint and become a double personality 6. this |
09-21-2012, 07:14 PM | #1029 |
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Just finished the third episode of Agito, looking forward to seeing where this series goes.
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09-21-2012, 09:52 PM | #1030 |
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A lot of Kabuto's problems go back to the writing staff. The head writer, Shoji Yonemura (aka the main writer for Decade's second half), sucks at long-term planning. He can do two-episode arcs fairly well, but he can't sustain longer storylines and ongoing plots worth a damn.
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