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09-27-2020, 10:16 AM | #61 |
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Okay I only just started the first episode (6 minutes 6 seconds into it as of writing this post) but my god this is so wonderful.
Edit: like immediately after writing this we got a scene of a small child pinching Hibiki's earlope and that really made me smile since I did that as a kid. Edit 2: So I really like how this is shot and framed. When Asuma is on screen, the world seems to shift a little bit, giving it some sense of wonder, but also of teenage tiredness, I think this is really evident in how the show has his mom and her friend talk in sync. Edit 3: Okay the scene with Asuma talking with the adults as the only child there (or at least child his age) is so freaking good at portraying how alien and disconnected adults can feel to a kid and their troubles.
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09-27-2020, 10:51 AM | #62 |
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Sorry about that. I was trying to keep it as a vague “you know it’s gonna happen, but you don’t know when” hing, but i guess I revealed a bit too much.
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09-27-2020, 11:10 AM | #63 |
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I don't think the word "Kamen Rider" was ever uttered in the entire series. Which is another oddity that makes Hibiki sticks out. Every series I saw they namedrop "Kamen Rider" like it's common knowledge in their respective universe, though to me using it feels a little forced. Like, what exactly is a "Kamen Rider" to them to know a Rider when they see it? Ever thought of that?
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09-27-2020, 11:12 AM | #64 |
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With Hibiki in particular though, even moreso than your Kuugas or your 555s, I often try to avoid using the term “Kamen Rider” for them. To me, they’ll always be Oni.
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09-27-2020, 11:33 AM | #65 |
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Okay I only just started the first episode (6 minutes 6 seconds into it as of writing this post) but my god this is so wonderful.
Edit: like immediately after writing this we got a scene of a small child pinching Hibiki's earlope and that really made me smile since I did that as a kid. Edit 2: So I really like how this is shot and framed. When Asuma is on screen, the world seems to shift a little bit, giving it some sense of wonder, but also of teenage tiredness, I think this is really evident in how the show has his mom and her friend talk in sync. Edit 3: Okay the scene with Asuma talking with the adults as the only child there (or at least child his age) is so freaking good at portraying how alien and disconnected adults can feel to a kid and their troubles. I get it! I'm glad you're invested in the show. Not a huge deal!
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09-27-2020, 10:22 PM | #66 |
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tfw other than I'm pretty well-trained there aren't any good memes from Hibiki too
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09-27-2020, 10:50 PM | #67 |
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KAMEN RIDER HIBIKI VOLUME 4 - "RUNNING ICHIRO"
"You try to figure out and laugh yourself to the showers Burn yourself alive and join the monster squad They say in this place you can reinvent yourself" -The National, "You've Done It Again, Virginia" Hey, I got a late start on this one (GO BEARS) and I've got to get up early tomorrow to go in for some computer stuff (GO TRANSFERRING A DATABASE FROM RMS TO RMH), so this one's going to maybe be a quicker one that y'all'll have to help pick up the slack on. First off, a couple corrections, based on what I gleaned from this (really great!) episode. So, before, I said that Hibiki was calling back to "the temple", when he's really been calling back to "a restaurant". I was thinking of Phase 2 Heisei shows, where there might be a variety of places that acted as the team's meeting place, instead of Phase 1 Heisei, where it is Always Restaurants. (The exception of course is Inoue, because he's always the exception. I expect Team Hibiki Bar And Grill to explode into splinters in Episode 30.) The other thing is that the Makamou is only the giant monster, not the two set-up monsters. They're the Douji and Hime, but I honestly barely care about that. I literally care more about the restaurant, since that's more interesting to watch and talk about. Yeah, boy, not sure if the non-monster stuff is that good (possible!), or the monster stuff is that dull (more possible!), but the end of these Hibiki episodes is the point where I'm not that engaged. I'm not, like, distracted or anything. I'm not checking my phone. But it's definitely something I... not suffer through, it's not that bad, but it's something I grudgingly accept. The poorly-aged CGI doesn't help things, but it's not even that. It's just, there's nothing to the fights? In this one, it's way more time spent trying to track the Makamou down, which is great, and then just a couple minutes of goofy CGI until Drum Solo, exploded monster. There's nothing to it, you know? It feels perfunctory, so it's hard to get too invested. It's like being anxious if the credits are going to roll. But! As usual, I don't really care about the monster stuff because everything else is great. Literally everything! There's a crosscut thing they do in the beginning, with Hibiki running through the woods to these big drums, and Asumu getting ready for school to these tiny drums. It's a nothing scene and it's perfect. If they wanted to cut the monster fights entirely to give me two more minutes of Ichiro buying hijiki (hilarious) or Asumu investing too much in the significance of a compass or Hibiki painting a drum stick, fine. I would take that trade in a heartbeat. I honest-to-god wouldn't care if the whole show was just Asumu worrying about his future. And, I don't know if this is a criticism or not, but I kind-of wish the whole show was just from Asumu's perspective? There's something to be said for the value in keeping things as locked in as possible to him, since that's the most unique thing the show has going for it. The more it lets his storyline lead the plot, the more impressive the episodes are. The more they tilt back to Hibiki's mission... it's not bad, it's just ever-so-slightly less interesting. It does have some merit in splitting the focus, though. The highlight of the episode is the crosscutting of Hibiki and Asumu's chases. This heroic Hibiki race to find a monster before it kills again, mixed with two teenagers unable to catch a middle-aged man? Hysterical. (Shot of the episode was when the music drops over a static shot of two men playing chess. Ichiro races from right to left, beat, another beat, the two kids are winded as shit as they race from right to left after him. So great. Killed me dead.) It's also the thing I can easily point to as the show maybe not needing to split its focus, though, since the monster stuff wasn't nearly as fun as the Ichiro stuff. That dude seems pretty neat! And, yes, of course he's Kasumi and Hinaka's father, but I assume we all knew that when he saved that kid in front of the book store. (I do love that it's the Low Rent version of Hibiki's ferry save. I really hope we get progressively lower-stakes versions of that save, until Asumu is diving in to save a duckling from being hit by an out-of-control goose on rollerskates.) When they started mentioning their out-of-town dad last week, you knew he had to be showing up soon. It's literally the only reason anyone on a Kamen Rider show ever mentions their parents. But I'm glad he's here! He's great! He's very fun, and seems like the sort of guy that probably was a mentor to Hibiki, since they share a kind goofiness that is equal parts charming and an invitation to take part in something life-threatening. They're role models for people who want to be amazing or die trying. Either way, super into this episode of people going camping, studying for tests, and chasing middle-aged men who have outstanding cardio. (Do Japanese middle-schoolers not have gym class?) Not as into the actual Fighting A Monster part, still, but this is an episode where both Ichiro and Kasumi do Hibiki's salute back to him, so A+++.
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09-28-2020, 12:59 AM | #68 |
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The restaurant thing is actually a throwback to the Showa era, where many of the Riders hung out at some kind of dining establishment. Several of the early ones were run by the same guy, even. It's one of those iconic Rider elements like the belt or the motorcycle. The Showa vs. Heisei movie even did a scroll past cartoon versions of each show's restaurant during its end credits.
Of all the various restaurants, the one in Hibiki is one of my favorites. A big part of that is that, again, it feels like a real location. Just another example of how well Hibiki feels like it captures daily life in Japan. And yeah, Ichiro is pretty great. One of the reasons why this show feels so cozy is because it's full of characters that are really nice and friendly. These are people you would want to spend time with, too. |
09-28-2020, 03:25 AM | #69 |
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Haven't followed the entire conversation, and I don't post here in general as much as I used to (my signature is also woefully out of date and I am too lazy to change it).
Hibiki is one of my all time favorite shows, definitely in my top 5 for Kamen Rider (probably 2nd to Ryuki). Hibiki himself is my favorite lead rider (Zolda is my favorite rider overall, character-wise) and his relationship with Asumu is just incredible. While I do agree the show was at its best overall during the first 29 episodes/prior to the infamous production changes, I will defend the latter portion of the series as some of the absolute strongest moments in the season occur during it. I'd post more of my thoughts but I don't want to spoil things (from either half of the show), plus it's been a while since I've watched it and I am too tired and lazy to dig through my old posts from my own initial watch of the series. Shounen Yo is also, hands down, my favorite toku related song bar none. Really, really hope you end up loving it as much as me and Switchblade do.
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09-28-2020, 05:15 AM | #70 |
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I really liked the fight scene in this one for what it's worth. Between the location and all the composite shots to get Hibiki fighting a giant, it felt very particular to this show's style. Obviously it didn't come out perfect in terms of the effects, but you can see how much they were experimenting with what a Rider fight scene could even be. I definitely don't remember seeing Faiz or Ryuki throwing down with a big hairy guy in a river.
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