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11-27-2020, 03:07 AM | #1 |
Hmm....
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In your opinion, who is The Best and Worst Final Villains in Kamen Rider?
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11-27-2020, 03:29 AM | #2 |
Reiei
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In no order:
The Best -Daguva since he felt like a legitimate threat in the series and his final fight was cool. -Evolt since his personality coupled with his constant beating of the riders made me smile everytime I see him. Amazing suit too. -Horobi cuz I loved him since the beginning and his slow growth into reformation was nice to watch. Takaiwa played him and it was cool to have a Nawata vs Takaiwa to start Reiwa. -Hajime/Chalice? Does he count? I just really like Hajime. -Kaito/Baron. He had good intentions, but poor execution. His suit is amazing too and his actor really sold me on him. I need his SHF... -Daido/Eternal best suit and his movie was amazing. He has personality too. The worst (or the ones I didn't like. Don't really hate them.) -Gold Drive and some doomsday machine really felt weird that Drive's final villain was some machine and the real final battle was with the secondary riders. Good fight, but Banno never really stuck to me other than being an all around dickhead. -Maki/Ptera Greeed he was kinda eh for me too but his fight with TaJaDor was pretty cool. I don't know he was kinda just the "human bad" enemy. -Cronus He should honestly be in the middle since I like him, but him constantly dragging on the show with him losing and winning over and over kinda got tiring. -Swartz his 'plan' never really cliqued with me and was just Decade season 2. Tho, it was kinda fitting cuz he IS Another Decade? |
11-27-2020, 03:54 AM | #3 |
take me to space
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The best could have been Ohma Zi-O, but we had to settle for the Time-jackers, easily the worst in the franchise.
I guess the best for me are the Greeed, like as a whole. I can't really pick one out one of them specifically since it's their story as a group and the way the bounce off and conflict with each other that makes me like them so much. Pour one out for Ankh's evil left side that took on a mind of it's own, who was pretty cool yet I doubt most people think about him much if at all. |
11-27-2020, 04:04 AM | #4 |
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So is this a Heisei era-only thing?
I keep forgetting this is a site for people under 25... Shadowmoon,anyone? I feel so old when I engage here... |
11-27-2020, 04:07 AM | #5 |
NinninComic
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Best for me is Evolt hands down.
He is here from the start and yet they didn't make him being beaten at every upgrade or something. Worst is hard to pick. surprisingly KR has a lot of main antagonist that seems badly written or introduced. I'm going to say Kai from Den-O. But could have mentioned Banno (Drive), Maki (OOO), Swartz (Zi-O), Adel (Ghost), and the list could continue a bit. |
11-27-2020, 04:10 AM | #6 |
WONDER RIDER
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Evolto best villain. Manipulation from beginning to the end, charismatic to boot and a legitimate threat to the Riders. Not to mention he has awesome fashion sense.
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11-27-2020, 04:13 AM | #7 |
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Well I am actually 28 now but I do at least know Shadow Moon even if probably not much about Showa in general other than just in crossovers and so on! Like I've said often though I do mostly prefer 2000s Heisei to 2010s Heisei!
EDIT:That was meant as a reply to DH21965, people always seem to reply quicker than me! Last edited by tomos; 11-27-2020 at 04:22 AM.. |
11-27-2020, 04:24 AM | #8 |
Reiei
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I mean, yeah, I'm currently 18 but my first rider was J. So, I'll bite. The Fog mother was creepy looking and I wish there were more monster designs that were this disgusting in modern shows. Destrudos in Ultraman Z seems to somewhat hit the nail being an abomination of kaijus and Ultroid Zero's head just hanging there. |
11-27-2020, 04:45 AM | #9 |
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In all fairness it can be a bit annoying when people assume you don't know something just because you weren't around then, I mean it's not hard to research about old TV and stuff!
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11-27-2020, 06:27 AM | #10 |
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For me personally:
Best: Bano/Gold Drive: Probably one of the best evil scientist characters in the franchise. His motivation is interesting, being afraid of everything he can't control, and a lack of empathy. It was also refreshing to see the trope done well after how bad Duke was. Gremlin: Perfect villain for Wizard's final. He's a dark mirror of Haruto and Kamen Rider protagonists in general. You just love to hate him. Hajime: Very good finally with lots of build-up through the show. You can totally believe the friendship and reactions of the cast being pushed into this horrible situation. Worst: Kaito/Baron: I hate this guy, and not in the love to hate him kind of way, just hate him as a character. He's a hypocritical idiot that constantly flip-flopped on his beliefs and was nothing more than an asshole and walking trope. Doesn't help that the actual bad guy of the show, Sagrara, gets away scot-free because of him. Daguva: Beyond an interesting concept, this guy is a big fat nothing! Which just makes it a fight between two dudes in costumes. Horrobi: I know I'm gonna get shit for this, but I'll get this off my chest. Aruto and Horrobi have no real connection or rivalry throughout the show. Why, if this was always the plan did it feel like this final battle had no build-up at all? And even when it happened, it wasn't about how Humagears should be treated, it was about revenge. You know why? Because that was the only reason this fight would be interesting in the slightest. And worst of all, Horobi's hatred for humanity has nothing to stand on and is hollow. It's not built from experience, it is simply the will of the Ark, which really robes any last chance he could be interesting. |
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