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05-12-2014, 11:57 AM | #1 |
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Couldn't sleep last night and entertained myself by organising the Gaim riders into tiers. I'll be curious as to peoples opinions
Sengoku - Base - Kurokage Troopers - So Far the troopers have yet to win a fight against anyone, Inves or otherwise. Sengoku - Tier One "The Mook" - Gridon - Gridon has beaten a couple of Inves before but he's been consistently shown as the least skilled fighter. Sengoku - Tier Two "The Trier" - Kurokage and Knuckle - Both of these riders are shown to be decent fighters but Kurokage never matched any of the main riders one on one, and Knuckle has the greatest difficulty against normal Inves. Sengoku - Tier Three "The Soldier" - Ryugen Budo and Kiwi Ryugen has consistently been portrayed as less skilled then either Gaim or Baron in fights, compensating with precision gun fighting. As a warrior, he's less of a threat. Sengoku - Tier Four"The Warrior" - Gaim Orange and Ichigo, Baron Banana More skilled than the lower tiers in hand to hand, regardless of the weapons they use. Generally the most evenly matched when they fight. Sengoku - Tier Five "The Powerhouse" - Gaim Pine, Baron Mango, Bravo While there's some variety in skill and ability, these are the strongest of the normal riders, with Gaim and Baron compensating with raw power for Bravo's experience. Sengoku - Tier Six "The Dreaded" - Zangetsu Zangetsu never lost a fight, or even had an even fight. In his few appearances so far, he completely dominated every battle, surpassing the others in power and speed. Genesis - Tier Seven "The Prick" - Sigurd, Zangetsu Shin II Sigurd appears to be the weakest of the Genesis riders, with his only victories being against weaker opponents. Zangetsu Shin II is considerably weaker than the first, and thus far has been on the losing side of every fight he's been in. He stumbled away in his first fight and was thrashed in his second. Genesis/Sengoku - Tier Eight "The Tank" - Baron Lemon Energy, Gaim Jimba Seems to be the safest "base state" power level for Genesis riders. Much stronger than the the lower tiers. Marika might fit in here but see below. Genesis/Sengoku - Tier Nine "The Shogun" - Gaim Kachidoki, Zangetsu Shin I Thus far appears to be the strongest confirmed rider tier. Both of these riders have dominated all their battles, with Kachidoki showing the greatest defensive abilities so far, defeating several powerful enemies including Marika and three Suika arms with little effort. Zangetsu Shin is strong enough to fight squarely with two Genesis riders, perhaps even edging them out. Most impressively, he is the only character in the show to confront Kachidoki arms and not only not get defeated but fight on a seemingly even playing field, his skill compensating for Kachidoki's defence and visa versa. Indeterminate - Suika Arms, Bujin Gaim, Marika, Duke Suika Arms proved effective against Sigurd, but its not clear whether or not it could defeat the other Genesis riders. Buijin Gaim is a little difficult to place given the generally nebulous nature of power levels in the movies. Zangetsu seemed well matched against him. On the other hand Wizard Infinity didn't exactly crush him, and in show Infinity should have been able to drop him solo easily. You see the same issue arise with Fourze Cosmic States, Cyclone Joker Extreme, PuToTyra (all post show media for both) and Rising Kuuga. Marika appears to be a Tier 8, but the point has been made that for various reasons she has not shown us her full potential and she may be more powerful than she appears. Duke is clearly a powerhouse, seemingly unphased by anything Gaim Jimba used but whether he could have defeated Zangetsu Shin I one on one is currently unclear.
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05-12-2014, 12:07 PM | #2 |
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I know the raws for the movie aren't out yet, but I'm wondering where the Legend Rider Locks and 15 would go.
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05-12-2014, 03:57 PM | #3 |
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I suppose Bujin Gaim harvested some of the Bujin's powers inbetween his fights with Zangetsu and Wizard infinity, which may be why he could fight Wizard off.
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05-12-2014, 04:11 PM | #4 |
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I don't think we can fairly compare Gaim Jimber/Jinba to Duke just yet.
Duke overpowered Jimber Lemon with ease, but that was during a time where Kouta was still an adolescent at best with his abilities, not really honing his skills, and still learning how to tap into the Jimber powers. After the fight with Sid and winning, Gaim suddenly got stronger as said by Marika that it isn't just the Genesis Core giving him his strength. ------ I don't think Bujin Gaim even puts up a fight, he's definitely stronger than the non-Sengoku Riders except W CycloneJoker Extreme. Though Bujin Gaim's "official stats" has his parameters stronger than even Marika and Jimber Gaim. Bujin Gaim never even stood a chance against Ichigo Arms Gaim when Kouta was actually angry. Bujin Gaim was slowly losing his edge and it wasn't until Ryugen was absorbed/swallowed by the Nepenthes Inhumanoid did Kouta retreat in Suika Arms. |
05-12-2014, 05:49 PM | #5 |
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Couldn't sleep last night and entertained myself by organising the Gaim riders into tiers. I'll be curious as to peoples opinions
Sengoku - Base - Kurokage Troopers - So Far the troopers have yet to win a fight against anyone, Inves or otherwise. Sengoku - Tier One "The Mook" - Gridon - Gridon has beaten a couple of Inves before but he's been consistently shown as the least skilled fighter. Sengoku - Tier Two "The Trier" - Kurokage and Knuckle - Both of these riders are shown to be decent fighters but Kurokage never matched any of the main riders one on one, and Knuckle has the greatest difficulty against normal Inves. Sengoku - Tier Three "The Soldier" - Ryugen Budo and Kiwi Ryugen has consistently been portrayed as less skilled then either Gaim or Baron in fights, compensating with precision gun fighting. As a warrior, he's less of a threat. Sengoku - Tier Four"The Warrior" - Gaim Orange and Ichigo, Baron Banana More skilled than the lower tiers in hand to hand, regardless of the weapons they use. Generally the most evenly matched when they fight. Sengoku - Tier Five "The Powerhouse" - Gaim Pine, Baron Mango, Bravo While there's some variety in skill and ability, these are the strongest of the normal riders, with Gaim and Baron compensating with raw power for Bravo's experience. Sengoku - Tier Six "The Dreaded" - Zangetsu Zangetsu never lost a fight, or even had an even fight. In his few appearances so far, he completely dominated every battle, surpassing the others in power and speed. Genesis - Tier Seven "The Prick" - Sigurd, Zangetsu Shin II Sigurd appears to be the weakest of the Genesis riders, with his only victories being against weaker opponents. Zangetsu Shin II is considerably weaker than the first, and thus far has been on the losing side of every fight he's been in. He stumbled away in his first fight and was thrashed in his second. Genesis/Sengoku - Tier Eight "The Tank" - Baron Lemon Energy, Gaim Jimba Seems to be the safest "base state" power level for Genesis riders. Much stronger than the the lower tiers. Marika might fit in here but see below. Genesis/Sengoku - Tier Nine "The Shogun" - Gaim Kachidoki, Zangetsu Shin I Thus far appears to be the strongest confirmed rider tier. Both of these riders have dominated all their battles, with Kachidoki showing the greatest defensive abilities so far, defeating several powerful enemies including Marika and three Suika arms with little effort. Zangetsu Shin is strong enough to fight squarely with two Genesis riders, perhaps even edging them out. Most impressively, he is the only character in the show to confront Kachidoki arms and not only not get defeated but fight on a seemingly even playing field, his skill compensating for Kachidoki's defence and visa versa. Indeterminate - Suika Arms, Bujin Gaim, Marika, Duke Suika Arms proved effective against Sigurd, but its not clear whether or not it could defeat the other Genesis riders. Buijin Gaim is a little difficult to place given the generally nebulous nature of power levels in the movies. Zangetsu seemed well matched against him. On the other hand Wizard Infinity didn't exactly crush him, and in show Infinity should have been able to drop him solo easily. You see the same issue arise with Fourze Cosmic States, Cyclone Joker Extreme, PuToTyra (all post show media for both) and Rising Kuuga. Marika appears to be a Tier 8, but the point has been made that for various reasons she has not shown us her full potential and she may be more powerful than she appears. Duke is clearly a powerhouse, seemingly unphased by anything Gaim Jimba used but whether he could have defeated Zangetsu Shin I one on one is currently unclear. |
05-12-2014, 07:36 PM | #6 |
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I think Kachidoki Arms is more powerful than the Energy Riders forms including Zangetsu Shin. I also think Knuckle is above Kurokage because even though he struggles fighting the Invess in the beginning he demolishes 3 to 5 of them in one attack by the end. I would even debate Knuckle is higher than Ryugen at times.
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