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06-08-2016, 07:14 AM | #21 |
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Leave them how they are because they are two of my favorite Kamen Rider shows ever? Okay moving beyond the bias now. I think both shows could have done a little less on the toy commercial in the beginning but I think both told and are telling great stories overall. Drive should have had some of the story elements like about Shinnosuke's father in the beginning and not had Mashin Chaser go back to being a bad guy after finding out he was Proto-Drive. Still the overall product of Drive and how Ghost is now is pretty good. If we want to get into a show that had writing problems that is Gaim in a nut shell.
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06-08-2016, 07:25 AM | #22 |
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However please continue, I'm quite interested to know what you think Gaim's flaws are if you genuinely think Ghost doesn't majorly suffer from any.
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06-08-2016, 09:35 AM | #23 |
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I still don't really see what's wrong with Ghost. Maybe since it's my first Heisei Rider series, a lot of elements that are seen as overdone to you guys are fresh and exciting to me? Specter is cool because he's a rival that wears leather FOR NO REASON! The beginning where they're gathering the Eyecons is cool because it reminds me of Dragon Ball's first arc, which is one of my favorite parts of that show. I like all of the characters, even Onari. I REALLY like Alain's development. I'm okay with the form changes because they're used strategically - Oh, I need a gun? Let's bring out Billy the Kid! I like Grateful Damashii and it makes sense to use it frequently, since...well why use weaker forms when you have a more powerful form? The only thing that bothers me sometimes is the inconsistencies with the strengths of the characters. The show has managed to keep me entertained and wanting to watch the next episode immediately. It's actually the fastest I've gone through a toku show because I just can't stop watching it.
By insert songs, do you mean like...when the opening theme plays during climactic fights? I always love when shows do that but the fact that Ghost doesn't isn't an issue for me.
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06-08-2016, 09:46 AM | #24 |
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06-08-2016, 10:01 AM | #25 |
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But hey, watching a rather weak show first is not a bad thing. Because the next shows you’ll watch will be even better and you will still enjoy your first watch of Ghost now. If you like Ghost then stuff like W, OOO and Gaim will blow you away. |
06-08-2016, 10:32 AM | #26 |
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What I feel Gaim's flaws were definitely the ending, I feel that Sagara was the true villain and he wasn't played like that. I feel that Kaito becoming evil kind of wrecked his character. They built up a lot for Marika but she never developed into what she could have been. Kouta is the main flaw for me he is so unbalanced like he went out of his way to try and save Micchy but he doesn't go out of his way to try and save Kaito? They both became monsters but only one of them is able to be saved? I also think that Kouta should have destroyed Sagara and stop him from having anyone else play the stupid evolutionary game he makes people play. I mean all the trouble he saw that it caused from both his world and the Invess's why would he let that continue? It even back fires on him in the Gaim/Drive movie. Micchy's go evil and twisted arc I think went on for too long too. Now I can admit Ghost has had it's flaws like what it did to Makoto back to back in the late teens and early twenties. I mean no Kamen Rider show is flawless but I genuinely enjoyed Drive and love Ghost right now. Though I still worry about Ghost because I loved Gaim for the longest time and then the ending ruined it for me. Though Gaim still has some of my favorite Kamen Riders though so I do say it did some things right. Maybe Ghost could have also explained some of the things in the beginning like what the heck Captain Ghost is, maybe hinted at the Ganma world earlier but overall I think it's doing a fantastic job.
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06-08-2016, 10:37 AM | #27 |
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I still don't really see what's wrong with Ghost. Maybe since it's my first Heisei Rider series, a lot of elements that are seen as overdone to you guys are fresh and exciting to me? Specter is cool because he's a rival that wears leather FOR NO REASON! The beginning where they're gathering the Eyecons is cool because it reminds me of Dragon Ball's first arc, which is one of my favorite parts of that show. I like all of the characters, even Onari. I REALLY like Alain's development. I'm okay with the form changes because they're used strategically - Oh, I need a gun? Let's bring out Billy the Kid! I like Grateful Damashii and it makes sense to use it frequently, since...well why use weaker forms when you have a more powerful form? The only thing that bothers me sometimes is the inconsistencies with the strengths of the characters. The show has managed to keep me entertained and wanting to watch the next episode immediately. It's actually the fastest I've gone through a toku show because I just can't stop watching it.
By insert songs, do you mean like...when the opening theme plays during climactic fights? I always love when shows do that but the fact that Ghost doesn't isn't an issue for me. Quote:
Pretty much, yeah. I watched Wizard early on so I gave it a lot more credit than it deserved. After watching some more shows I realized how weak Wizard is.
But hey, watching a rather weak show first is not a bad thing. Because the next shows you’ll watch will be even better and you will still enjoy your first watch of Ghost now. If you like Ghost then stuff like W, OOO and Gaim will blow you away.
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06-08-2016, 10:56 AM | #28 |
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Would you mind putting spoiler tags around your post? That's some heavy Gaim spoilers right there.
And I disagree with a good bit of the things you said about Gaim but I don't want to blow this thread out of proportion. |
06-08-2016, 12:53 PM | #29 |
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Well I can certainly see your argument some of your points (especially Marika), but there's a couple of things I disagree with.
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I feel that Kaito becoming evil kind of wrecked his character.
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Kouta is the main flaw for me he is so unbalanced like he went out of his way to try and save Micchy but he doesn't go out of his way to try and save Kaito? They both became monsters but only one of them is able to be saved?
The guy discarded his humanity for the sake of his cause, that's about as symbolic of being at the point of no return as you can get.
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06-08-2016, 02:06 PM | #30 |
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I do agree that the generic rival secondary rider has been getting old for a while now. It also gets boring when they end up becoming friends at the end. With Baron, he became the final villain which was pretty new if you ask me.
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