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05-19-2021, 06:44 PM | #21 |
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Yo are we talking Gridman right now!?
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I think it's fair to call myself a big fan of the original Gridman? I forget exactly when after getting into Rider and everything (which was 2011-ish, as a reminder) I found out about it, but I remember it catching my imagination immediately as soon as I heard about it, and it never really let go. He was basically Ultraman, but even cooler, because he fought in sweet digital cityscapes, had sick combining robot allies, and arguably the greatest toku hero theme song of all time. It was something I probably would've watched at the earliest opportunity if not for the issue of there being no English subs for it back then. Kind of a hurdle, but eventually it hit me in 2017 that I'd stumbled my way into picking up enough Japanese over half a decade that watching a show raw was becoming a legitimate option. But obviously I wouldn't want to test that theory out with a show that would be super heavy on complex dialogue or plotting; I needed something older, lighter, episodic, and simple. When I searched my head for a good candidate, the answer was as clear as day – I finally get to watch Gridman.
It went over way smoother than I expected. A joke or some technical jargon here or there would fly over my head, but I was following along, and I was having a great time doing it. The thing about learning a language and getting to the point where you ~kinda sorta~ understand the broad gist of it is that it's a lot like being a little kid again, and experiencing Gridman that way gave me a bit more of a profound connection to it than I think a lot of people have. It helps that the show itself is just plain awesome, and has the style and tone it does. There's a line in Gridman's finale that's become one of my favorite lines I've ever heard in tokusatsu: "If you think you've done something wrong, why not try taking responsibility for it?" It's a pretty simple sentiment for a pretty straightforward show, but it hit me like a hammer first watching the episode because it embodies perfectly what my single favorite thing about Gridman is – it's a very proactive hero show. A series about a bunch of middle school kids who manage to put together a supercomputer out of trash they scraped up with the scarce money kids have, and who use that computer to save the world. Every one of Gridman's abilities, down to his typical ability to grow in size like any Ultraman style hero, is directly owed to the tireless work of these three children punching WAY beyond their weight. (I think I mostly just liked that his specific tech shtick was 3D modeling? Like, I don't know, there's just something really endearing about that being his chosen artistic medium in the early 90's. Kid was ahead of his time if you ask me.) I'm also really glad SSSS.Gridman seems to still be kicking people towards the original show? The connection between them isn't ~that~ significant as to make the original required viewing, so it's nice how often I see people at least giving it a chance because of their interest in the reimagining anyway.
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05-20-2021, 12:48 AM | #22 |
Yodonna oshi
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At last I have flushed out the true Gridman fan! Now face my monster as it attacks TokuNation's servers with my awful-opinion-kaiju, hahha. Honestly, honestly, I am so happy you like this series, I am so happy it is someone's favourite. Again, I wouldn't want to speak badly of the series, but it didn't land for me in the way that it did for you, but it makes me smile to know that somewhere out there, this is someone's favourite show. Despite all my complaining, I had a good time with this for sure, even though it is a show that features Ippei. You're absolutely right about it being cozy, and I think this is one of the reasons that made me feel at home watching it as it conjured up well a world that I do have clear and palpable nostalgia for. Quote:
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DAMN IT! How is this longer than Gridman?! I'm going to control my weird behaviour, and just watch the opening. You guys are not making life any easier for me! |
05-20-2021, 06:10 AM | #23 |
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It's a real shame in terms of the story too, because the originally intended finale is actually really well pulled off, IMO, until the very obvious last minute change in said episode hits. Personally, I think that, whle there is some fun to be had in those bonus episodes, I support anyone who wants to stop at the proper finale, since the actual final episode is really, really lame.
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05-20-2021, 06:16 AM | #24 |
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More thoughts on this later—and you are entirely to blame for this. |
05-21-2021, 07:55 AM | #25 |
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Happy to be of service! Hahaha!
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05-21-2021, 10:44 AM | #26 |
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Trust me, there were moments when I wanted to bury Ippei in concrete. It's definitely not everyone's cup of tea, and I really don't blame you, and whilst the kids never really develop too much beyond what you see in the first episode, I think there are moments that provide them with greater depth though.
In the end, I found myself kind of rooting for them, perhaps simply because I had invested so much time watching the show and wanted it to be for something, hahha.
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05-21-2021, 11:05 AM | #27 |
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I'm a good chunk of my way through the series... I don't know who would want to read my summation and thoughts of it, but I'm writing it nonetheless. Oh, my gosh, that was stunning. When you said Takeshi, I thought that was the name of the new protagonist, I didn't realise it was the Takeshi. I love all the details in this, I love seeing Takeshi all cool and grown up. This makes even the bits that I wasn't enthusiastic about in the show worthwhile. I'm super, super hyped to watch the cartoon now! Last edited by dreamcastegirl; 05-21-2021 at 11:33 AM.. |
05-21-2021, 05:46 PM | #28 |
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Speaking of Takeshi, that one episode about his backstory was one of the highlight episodes for me, along with the dream one.
The former, because it humanizes Takeshi in a way many recent attempts at sympathetic villains fail at, sure, it has some weird moments, but the overall theme made a really good episode. The latter, because it reminded me of the Hero Stage shows in Japan, and I'm not sure if they intended to make the dream a meta experience in a work of fiction, but I just now made that connection. And I really love how they brought back some of the monsters to be turned into mecha reboots of them, as it not only allowed them to get away with making less monsters for the show's run, but it also gave an opportunity to reuse some of the fun monster designs. |
05-22-2021, 01:48 AM | #29 |
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Definitely any exploration of Takeshi's character was when I was most focused on the show. I think the series does a really good job of portraying him as an antagonist but also making him sympathetic. He's definitely my favourite character in the show. |
05-22-2021, 02:46 PM | #30 |
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Of course, I did end up watching Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad. As soon as I was informed by DreamSword that it was on youtube, I felt compelled to watch the entire series—well, I say watch, what I really mean is play in the background whilst getting on with other stuff, but it still counts, okay?
Dare I say it, but I might even have enjoyed the show more than Gridman, for the most part, and I think that part of the reason for that is the playfulness in which these stories are translated and reinterpreted. To be clear, this is obviously a television show aimed at children and obviously written by people in their 30s, and yet because of that, because it is clear that these adults are trying to have as much possible fun as they can during their day jobs, Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad—hereafter SSSS—is chock full of the worst possible kind of dad jokes, the kind that you cannot help but laugh at; punchlines to jokes and dialogue snippets such as "She's an active young miss" and "This even beats going to the laser light show and listening to Pink Floyd" are par for the course throughout the unwieldy 53 episodes that the show runs for. At one point, Sydney, our Yuka analogue for the series, claims to be suffering from "hallucinations brought on from studying and too much intelligence." It's that kind of series. Yet, this lightheartedness really ensures that, for the most part, it remains fun. When watching Gridman, I spent a lot of time musing on the nature of nostalgia, the absent world of 1993, and such is just as applicable to the depiction of 1995 present in SSSS. Whilst having never been to America, it is unarguable how much American pop culture has shaped the world over the last few centuries, and the references here are all ones present that filtered down to us in the decade during which the series is set; CompuServe, Compaq computers, New Kids on the Block, the Lemonheads, references to cyberpunk books, and both the idea of "video pirates", and the abundance of boys with their hair styled after curtains all of which conspire to evoke the year of production. Speaking of curtains, our central character in SSSS, Sam Collins is portrayed by none other than a young Matthew Lawrence doing his best Omri Katz impression. Wait, you may be asking, who is Matthew Lawrence and why should you care? Well, friends, Matthew Lawrence, who later went on to appear in Boy Meets World, is the younger brother of Joey Lawrence, one of the main cast members in the sitcom Blossom—well, technically, both brothers appeared in Blossom, the former playing a younger version of the latter's character, but the character of Joey was something of a fan favourite, meaning that, in a way, audiences were already primed to accept the character of Sam as a likeable, youthful lead in a show like this. Having said that, despite the significance of the show's supporting cast, the real co-star is Sam's foil, Malcolm Frink, played by Glen Beaudin, who hams it up with such aplomb that he gives Tim Curry's Kilokahn a run for his money. During these opening episodes, there also seems to much more of a case for Malcolm's romantic involvement with Sam's later girlfriend, Jen, than Sam really has, with many of the episodes following the initial set up showing Sam in one of two modes, either apologising to Jennifer or telling us how cute she is. Thinking back on adolescence, actually maybe that's not too far from the truth when it comes to youthful romance. Perhaps I am somewhat biased here though, as Malcolm is initially far more akin to "bad boy" characters from movies of the time—a diet version of J.D. from Heathers being the most obvious example—and I may or may not have a preference for such characters. Of course, with how completely over-the-top Beaudin is encouraged to be in the role, he also comes across as incredibly.... Matt Berry. Another relationship that comes across stronger in SSSS than it does in Gridman is that shared between Malcolm and Kilokahn. I genuinely like the naïveté of Kahn Digifer, and Takeshi certainly was my favourite character in Gridman, yet there is no denying the wonderful performance that Tim Curry gives as Kilokahn, nor is there any arguing with the gleeful manner in which the digital overlord and his human apprentice antagonise one another. Malcolm is significantly less subservient than Takeshi, referring to his evil compatriot at one point as a "cheap Darth Vader clone," whilst Kilokahn—who allegedly runs at an "impressive" 400 MHz—is a lot quicker to call out Malcolm's pettiness, his childish ambitions. This is what makes the sense of finality that arrives in episode #39 and the backtracking that follows shortly afterwards so much more frustrating. I would argue that the approach taken to the "end" of SSSS is even more significant due to the lack of division between Sam and his Gridman persona, Servo. There is no reason for why, in armour, Sam is suddenly called Servo from episode #1, but as there is no delineation between his human form and his "digital form" like there is between Naoto and Gridman, when Sam's body is destroyed and he is locked in cyberspace, the moment is genuinely moving, and the sacrifices he makes to ensure that Malcolm is aware that he is not alone, that others are around him, is a moment that really elevates the show for just a brief while above its contemporaries, Big Bad Beetleborgsand VR Troopers. As with Gridman, the world captured within the scope of stories that constitute SSSS is a familiar one, full of pagers and unlisted phone numbers, laughable computer specs, and, ah, a lot more occasions in which Sam dresses up as a girl. If you can accept it for what it is, if you can excuse the later episodes in which the show drags on and recycles footage, or if you can just avoid watching those later episodes, then SSSS actually has a lot to offer, representing a show with a much more team based dynamic than its original source material, and a genuinely fun villain. There's also a fun blink and you'll miss it cameo from Naoto, Yuka, and Ippei in episode #11. And now that I have watched all this, now I can watch the cartoon, right? |
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