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10-29-2020, 09:19 PM | #19771 |
Showa Girl
Join Date: Jun 2018
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Super specific request -- does anyone have the original SHF Den-O Liner Form; and Seihou Den-O and/or FRS Den-O? Or, in fact, any Seihou and/or FRS? I really want to see how the original Liner looks next to them since that one actually seems better than the other original Den-O SHFs; and I have FRS Den-O and want to eventually get the Seihous of Climax and New Den-O.
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10-29-2020, 10:24 PM | #19772 |
Suprise Gamma Future
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
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I have Seihou Kabuto and FRS Kabuto if you want pics. Or did you mean only a Den-O figure?
Also I don't even like Kamen Rider Black but the new SS looks soooo goood Other than maybe Showa characters, I don't think I'll ever pick up another more SS now that the figure-rise kits are coming out. People have done some incredible things with the Hibiki kit. Of course if they make Showa FRS... that's another story.
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10-29-2020, 10:32 PM | #19773 |
Showa Girl
Join Date: Jun 2018
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I know of course that its quality won't even be remotely comparable to what a renewal will do, but I can happily be satisfied with a certain level of older SHFs - I'm very happy with Fourze, Meteor and the two Births, for instance - but from what I've handled of the Zeronos SHF... I don't like the old Den-O mold at all. But Den-O Liner seems to be a slightly different and better mold proportionally.
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10-30-2020, 01:40 AM | #19774 |
WONDER RIDER
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,727
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Guys, I think SHF Upgrade is gonna get sued.
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10-30-2020, 05:06 AM | #19775 |
Dai Shogun
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 7,530
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Shinkocchou Seihou Momotaros is available at AmiAmi if someone's still looking for one:
https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-059618 |
10-30-2020, 07:40 AM | #19776 |
WONDER RIDER
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,727
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I'm gonna go on a quick rant just to get this off my chest, but I have every reason to believe that the Gaim Figuarts was the pinnacle of the SHF line before things started going downhill (not in quality, mind you, the quality's gone up a bit).
Let's see why: -Good proportions -Great articulation -Decent to amazing range of accessories -Riders actually come with their own appropriate weapons and accessories (looking at you Build line and beyond) -Main Rider's upgrade and final forms were regular releases -Reasonable prices (yeah yeah I know inflation but come on, SHF Saber like around 4000 yen while Blades is around 6000?!?) -Cheap on the aftermarket (SHF Zangestu Kachidoki's like 4000 yen or something on Mandarake) -Regular release bike -Tertiary Riders was not P-Bandai So why do I say it's the pinnacle of SHFs? It's because they struck a good balance between quality and price. Before Gaim, Figuarts were cheaper yes, but had strange wonky proportions (It started to get better after SHF Wizard Infinity). After Gaim, the quality and paint app definitely became better, but due to inflation the prices rose up, which is understandable to a degree but then Bandai pulled their whole "weapons with P-Bandai bike" shtick. Thankfully they're no longer pulling that off ever since Zero-One but now they're making you buy another figure if you want weapons. Of course, not every release does this but it is still frustrating nonetheless. Additionally, Gaim's belts were actually detailed. Thank goodness Drive continued hving good belts and Ghost had appropriate details despite the Eyecon being built into the Driver and was thus non-removable, but it all started going downhill from Ex-Aid onwards. I can forgive the half-Gashats for stability issues, but blank Gashats, Ridewatches, Progrise Keys and Wonder Ride Books is where I put my foot down. Bandai, are you kidding me?!? Would it not kill you to put at least some effort into those? I'd gladly pay like 20 or 40 extra yen just to have those details printed on! If Gaim was the pinnacle of SHF, then I'd say Zi-O was a big dip (second only to Ghost), not because of the quality of the figure (although I'll admit there were some issues with necks) but because of all the lack of detailing and weaponry they pulled that year. Woz got out lucky when they included his weapon with him. Still does not excuse the lack of print on his Miridewatches though. So in essence, I believe that Gaim was the pinnacle of the SHF. It exudes quality, just like the show itself (I suppose I could say something similar to Ghost Figuarts and its show having similar quality) and struck a fair balance between price, accessories and proportions. I suppose one can also consider Drive as a pinnacle of SHF, but let us not forget that little "Tire Koukan" campaign shtick they pulled, shall we? Bandai, if you're reading this, there are three things I want you to know: 1.) Please give each release fair accessories instead of this "buy another to get this thing" stuff. 2.) Please put detail onto the belts. I'll gladly give you 20 extra yen if you do so. 3.) Please give me SHF Mars and Kamuro.
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10-30-2020, 08:06 AM | #19777 |
Stabby stabby
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Accessories, detail, and variety I'll give you. but everything else has improved since then. Especially proportions.
And I'm sorry, slightly limited articulation aside, the Ghost Figuarts are fine. Solid proportions, decent enough articulation aside from the torso, and good accessories. |
10-30-2020, 08:12 AM | #19778 |
WONDER RIDER
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,727
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Accessories, detail, and variety I'll give you. but everything else has improved since then. Especially proportions.
And I'm sorry, slightly limited articulation aside, the Ghost Figuarts are fine. Solid proportions, decent enough articulation aside from the torso, and good accessories.
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10-30-2020, 08:13 AM | #19779 |
Showa Girl
Join Date: Jun 2018
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And that's kind of the main thing here -- Gashat's talking value for what you get, and I can't really say I disagree with them. My SHF RabbitRabbit and Seihou OOO, for instance, are far ahead of anything that could be produced during those years; but looking at how much I paid for Fourze, how good he is and how much he comes with? It's difficult to not see some of these earlier SHFs as a better deal. I've said it before -- I'd happily see some SHFs return to the quality of the likes of Gaim if it meant more accessories, lower prices and more at retail. That last point by the by is something I think you missed, Gashat -- though you did touch on it. Not just the bike, not just the four main riders; but even Kachidoki and Kiwami were retail. Now Gaim is still where we started to see a large influx of P-Bandai stuff - mostly because Gaim is also where we started seeing a large influx of suits - but looking at what was at retail it was very reasonable, especially compared to today.
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10-30-2020, 08:30 AM | #19780 |
Reiei
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 3,691
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Huh. I don't recall Saber and Blades combined costing you 10,000 yen. I got both for 80$.
Gaim was indeed the best value in SHF, but it's also probably what ultimately scared Bandai from deciding what is retail and what becomes webshop. The retails were the four main guys, and two of Gaim's forms. Now, it may just be because of time, but four out of six of those figures are still widely available, many of the other riders in the P-Bandai shop are also going for cheap. Bandai saw that as probably a bad thing and got scared. Evident with Drive when Tridoron, Formula, and KR Chaser were P-Bandai when I would've thought at least two out of those three had a right in being retail. Ghost (mostly Necrom) got the shortest end of the stick. Build to Zero-One were the worst, obviously. Now, I shudder at the thought of Espada being P-Bandai (which he totally is) and the rest of SOL. |
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