|
Community Links |
Members List |
Search Forums |
Advanced Search |
Go to Page... |
|
Thread Tools |
07-04-2016, 05:20 PM | #2481 |
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 46
|
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV
Yes because "women in the kitchen jokes" (which IS a completely outdated mindset) is exactly the same as what you originally said, which was "a show about an all-male team of chefs to break the stereotype of cooking is for women". To which I replied that pretty much all the top chefs in the world are men.
And okay not everyone thinks that all superheroes should be male Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeoranger V
but you clearly think they all should be in Super Sentai.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV
No. Stop saying everyone who has an issue with an all-male team is "just a few vocal feminists".
And yes, I do have the impression that everyone who does not like all-male teams are feminists. Everyone I've talked to that has this opinion always brings up feminist-like mindsets. Quote:
Originally Posted by KamenRider000
Anyway, how is asking for sale figures not related to your earlier post? Yes, Sun Vulcan was a few years ago but your argument that an all-male merchandise hasn't been proven either. How sure are you that girls will not buy boy-related toys. The fact that they enjoy a series most boys like means they'd most likely buy boy-related toys. It's a big possibility they won't mind an all-male team at all. Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaragon
Aiight, I'm gonna do these in bullet points:
Yes, you did. I hate to break it to you, but taking one part of the sentence, leaving out the part you didn't like, and acting as if I were agreeing with you is changing what I was trying to convey. I meant that it's fine if other shows targeted towards children want to have an all-male or all-female team, but I don't think it's right for Super Sentai. I already stated my personal reason for preferring a team with both sexes, but I will reiterate it for you. I personally think that this allows for more variety within the cast. Something that's nice to have in a franchise with a lot of repeating archetypes. I don't see how Goranger lacking a giant punching robot is at all relevant to this discussion, seeing as how I never said I was against every kind of change to the formula. Besides, they still have plenty of vehicles to suit my fancy. Since you seem so adamant about mentioning the new Ghostbusters and the female Thor, I'll tell you what I honestly think of them. They are shameless attempts by their companies to cater to this new wave of media-focused feminism. Speaking as somebody who is a Ghostbusters fan, I really wasn't fond of this attempt to "diversify" Ghostbusters. Particularly when it was done a lot better in "Extreme Ghostbusters" back in 1997. Ok, I'll give you a better example. GoRanger started with 4 men and 1 woman targeting an 80% male audience and 20% female audience. Do you think Changeman (was it Changeman?) was wrong to change it a 3 men 2 women team? I mean, they should be the same from the very beginning right? If you ask me, no. They can try anything out for a particular season then revert back to another formula on the other. Say.. 5 men, 0 woman on one season then back to 3 men and 2 women on the next then 4 men 1 woman on the season after. It's Sentai. They change numbers every season or so. And thank you for your opinion with Ghostbusters and Thor. I was fishing to getting to know you with those posts actually. Glad you're strong with your opinion. Quote:
Originally Posted by EpsilonX
I agree with most of your post. Though, I'm curious what group is doing that backlash. |
07-04-2016, 05:37 PM | #2482 |
Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,222
|
And what’s wrong with being a feminist? Not all feminists have “extreme” views.
__________________
|
07-04-2016, 05:46 PM | #2483 |
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 10,390
|
Liam, we have a Multiquote button.
|
GoseiWonder |
View Public Profile |
Find More Posts by GoseiWonder |
07-04-2016, 06:12 PM | #2484 |
Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: CA
Posts: 2,496
|
To be completely honest, I don't think we're gonna get anywhere with this argument. You're interested in seeing what Sentai would be like with an all-male team, but most people seem to think that wouldn't go over very well and the company wouldn't want to risk alienating fans. Every post is just the same thing over and over again and it doesn't seem like we're getting anywhere with it.
__________________
|
07-04-2016, 06:34 PM | #2485 |
Aetas Triumphi
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 406
|
Wow, this thread has completely derailed. You guys want to discuss all of the controversy surrounding Sun Vulcan? Just make your own bloody thread.
How's Zyuohger doing? I've been busy and haven't had time to watch much of it. |
07-04-2016, 06:41 PM | #2486 |
Fangirl Kaiju
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 172
|
Unfortunately, I don't really know why they stopped or even why they began in the first place. Hopefully somebody else knows more and is willing to pitch in.
Personally, I think Mickey, whoever she was, was friggin' awful. Her version of GoGoV's opening is one of the worst things I've ever heard in my life. Quote:
Thank you.
Ok, I'll give you a better example. GoRanger started with 4 men and 1 woman targeting an 80% male audience and 20% female audience. Do you think Changeman (was it Changeman?) was wrong to change it a 3 men 2 women team? I mean, they should be the same from the very beginning right? Anyhow, you really seem focused on just the part where I said that having at least one woman on the team has been a thing since Goranger and what you appear to have taken from that is that I hate all change-ups in gender dynamics forever. I don't. I just have a preference for groups made up of both sexes and the one all-male Super Sentai that exist just isn't that great. |
07-04-2016, 06:54 PM | #2487 |
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Visalia, CA
Posts: 11,080
|
Quote:
My time is very limited Mr KamenRider. I have a career, people to spend time to and other hobbies. I can only reply to so many. But I do enjoy my discussions here.
Anyway, how is asking for sale figures not related to your earlier post? Yes, Sun Vulcan was a few years ago but your argument that an all-male merchandise hasn't been proven either. How sure are you that girls will not buy boy-related toys. The fact that they enjoy a series most boys like means they'd most likely buy boy-related toys. It's a big possibility they won't mind an all-male team at all. And once again you bring up Sun Vulcan. You just now said yourself you've only seen 4 episodes of it. How does that prove the greatness of an all male team? And a few years ago? Sun Vulcan was a show from over 30. And why are you so adamant on keeping the argument of girls not buying boy related toys? My argument is the need for girl related toys as well for all children. What if the little girls don't wanna buy any of the boy related products? Lost revenue there Now this is the last time I'm going to say it. LiamLee, stop derailing threads just to discuss how much you want an all-male team. This is the Sentai General Questions thread. This is not the first occasion that you've derailed a thread just to discuss something completely irrelevant to the topic and continue said discussion when someone doesn't agree with it. Like one of our other users stated, if you wanna talk about an all-male team and the repercussions of one, MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD. Now move along.
__________________
My signature disappeared. Help. |
07-04-2016, 07:00 PM | #2488 |
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 10,390
|
Quote:
And if you hate Onari, you don't have to worry about Mario. Sure the first scene is him in a giraffe suit being an idiot, but the man only does that to method act as part of understanding the animals he's sculpting. When he needs to be serious, he gets serious. And there's way more serious than there goofy cosplaying with him. Hell, there's even a scene where he gets kidnapped by the villains while in a cow costume and he stands up to them completely seriously and not mooing like an idiot. And the villains, oh glorious! You got the calculator and the bruiser generals, a dark chick and then the big bad Genis. Genis is amazing. He's quiet, dignified and unlike most villains who flip out every episode when the Sentai wins, he chuckles because it entertains him. His whole schtick is going to different planets and having his generals commit genocide in varying creative ways for his dark amusement. And Earth is the most entertaining season of his Blood Game yet because of what the ZyuOhgers do to thwart his plans. And the action, with The World's introduction, you felt it. Just look at the final seconds, how absolutley shattered they were by The World. You feel that. And they didn't cheerfully say "shucks, we'll beat him next time because we're awesome heroes" after that like the NinNinjas would, they were showing signs of light PTSD and even all agreed that they were fucking terrified. These are some of the most human characters we've had in a while, AND ONLY ONE OF THEM IS HUMAN! Watch it. Now. Last edited by GoseiWonder; 07-04-2016 at 07:03 PM.. |
GoseiWonder |
View Public Profile |
Find More Posts by GoseiWonder |
07-04-2016, 07:14 PM | #2489 |
Stronger Than You
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nyet
Posts: 25,326
|
I feel Zyuohger's biggest failing are the villains, personally. They're your average set of boss, bruiser, smart guy, chick, like Gokaiger, Goseiger, Shinkenger, etc etc. None of them have really showed any particular quirks to really distinguish them, either.
While Genis being quite mellow over losses is a neat change of pace, as a character, he hasn't done anything to set himself apart from the likes of others. I do think everything else in Zyuohger is really good, though. The rangers are a really work off each other well and balance out the team. I particularly liked their reactions to losing to The World, like GoseiWonder said. It was a breath of fresh air for Sentai~
__________________
|
07-04-2016, 07:28 PM | #2490 |
Devil from the Depths
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Airspace B7R
Posts: 7,718
|
[QUOTE=Coevus;621086
How's Zyuohger doing? I've been busy and haven't had time to watch much of it.[/QUOTE] You know how by this point in the last few seasons it gets boring or outright bad? Yeah, that's not happening. Zyuohger is good. It's REALLY good.
__________________
|
|
TokuNation News & Rumors |
Figuarts/Seihou GRIDMAN |
SH Figuarts BoonBoomger Red |
Hasbro Licenses Power Rangers Toys to Playmates Toys |
Discotek Media Licenses Mobile Cop Jiban |
What's going on with CSM? |
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:40 AM.
|