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12-30-2022, 07:02 PM | #1251 |
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Where did a lot of this come from? Somebody was just speculating as to how Kamen Rider could be adapted if it were. I don't understand why this whole "why would they pick you?" narrative came from, because nobody ever suggested that they would be the ones "replacing" PR.
And honestly, international (especially Asian) content has never been more popular than it is now. If somebody were to adapt it, this would be the time....but it's probably better just to release and promote it in the west with both subtitles and dubs. I'll admit that I jumped to a few conclusions. I'm sure they don't actually expect to be hired to write a Kamen Rider adaptation, and I didn't mean to imply that I thought it was wrong to want one. What they said seemed like they thought a Rider adaptation would be replacing Power Rangers in the near future, and I guess I got a bit heated in saying that I thought it wasn't going to happen. So, sorry for misunderstanding, and for making the misunderstanding worse.
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12-30-2022, 07:20 PM | #1252 |
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They literally said Power Rangers was "dying" and that it was Kamen Rider's "time to shine" after someone asked why they kept thinking up Kamen Rider adaptations. That implied to me that they thought their Ideas are what "should" happen, or at least that they wanted them to happen. Like I said, I'm totally fine with the whole fan-adaptation thing. (Im sure I've thought about it before myself) It's just that explanation for it that felt off to me.
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I'll admit that I jumped to a few conclusions. I'm sure they don't actually expect to be hired to write a Kamen Rider adaptation, and I didn't mean to imply that I thought it was wrong to want one. What they said seemed like they thought a Rider adaptation would be replacing Power Rangers in the near future, and I guess I got a bit heated in saying that I thought it wasn't going to happen.
So, sorry for misunderstanding, and for making the misunderstanding worse. Also, I'm with on on thinking PR isn't going away any time soon. If anything, I think it could become bigger again, since Hasbro seems like they're actually trying to make something of it, and not just cashing in on the property.
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12-30-2022, 07:23 PM | #1253 |
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I think it gets it less now because Zi-O and Saber (and in some places Zero-One) have replaced it by being the easy go-to joke. At the time, Ghost was the worst regarded series of about 5 years (Gaim to Build), so it got it the worst. EDIT - I think a lot of it also has to do with watching a show weekly making it come of as much worse than someone watching it as a legacy show, and time does heal a lot of bitterness people have. If you're putting all your expectations on the weekly to be the best thing ever, and it's not, you're going to be disappointed and rage, but if it's just another episode in an arc you can watch in a day and appreciate as a whole, both good and bad, it's a different experience.
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12-31-2022, 12:21 AM | #1254 |
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A lot of it comes from fandom intertia, I think - Ghost is a punchline because it continually gets treated like a punchline, and so if you want an easy joke, that's what you go for. Couple that with fandoms (not just KR) treating something imperfect as the worst thing ever and irredeemable trash, and you have a fanbase that constantly makes the same jokes about Ghost's being unable to eat dinner or whatever. I'm not sure how Western-exclusive this one is, Takeru made a lot of appearances after his show and Saber vs Ghost was a thing (although that's as much because the writer for Saber also did Ghost...)
I think it gets it less now because Zi-O and Saber (and in some places Zero-One) have replaced it by being the easy go-to joke. At the time, Ghost was the worst regarded series of about 5 years (Gaim to Build), so it got it the worst. EDIT - I think a lot of it also has to do with watching a show weekly making it come of as much worse than someone watching it as a legacy show, and time does heal a lot of bitterness people have. If you're putting all your expectations on the weekly to be the best thing ever, and it's not, you're going to be disappointed and rage, but if it's just another episode in an arc you can watch in a day and appreciate as a whole, both good and bad, it's a different experience. Sometimes I don't really understand the tastes of the Toku fandom. Like...I also enjoyed Ninninger, another highly-criticized show. But the thing is...I feel like it's criticized for being weak at things that Sentai doesn't focus on, like having a strong overarching story. No, Sentai is and always has been about the team facing a monster while one member of the team has character development along the way. That's the core of what Sentai is, and that's probably what Ninninger was best at. I don't think Ninninger is an amazing show, but the thing it does right is probably the most important aspect of Sentai as a whole. Sorry, I know this topic is about Kamen Rider, but Sentai had the best example I could think of.
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12-31-2022, 01:37 AM | #1255 |
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And speaking about this, aside from primary Rider (Ace vs Keiwa) and secondary Rider (Keiwa vs Michinaga) debate, who is actually the female lead of Geats, Neon or Tsumuri? (no bias)
I thought the primary, secondary, tertiary Riders, etc. are determined by the order of the characters introduced in press conferences. But other than that, the lead heroine is also usually the 3rd introduced after the primary/secondary Riders before the tertiary (e.g. Zero-One had Izu introduced first before Yua, as well as Saber with Mei after Touma and Rintaro). By this I thought Neon is the female lead (doubles as teritary as she's a Rider) as she's introduced the 3rd after Ace and Keiwa, while Tsumuri's introduced after all the main Riders, like Sophia in Saber. Neon also indeed seems to receive more focus than Tsumuri, at least so far. But there are those who'd view Tsumuri as lead, probably because she gave similar vibes to Poppy or Izu of being inhuman mysterious supporting female, including how there are artworks depicting those 3 together, and that Rider series oftentimes did have the supporting females being made as the lead, above the major female Riders (e.g. Yoko to Mai, Yua to Izu) - so does Geats 'break' the formula again here or I got it wrong? Quote:
The actress has a black belt in karate, it would be very unwise not to let her fight. And yes, there is practically no interaction between her and Neon. However, there was almost no interaction between Poppy and Niсo, as well as between Izu and Yaiba. Part of Takahashi's style, I guess.
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12-31-2022, 03:59 AM | #1256 |
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And previously, despite being well-received, Misora is one of the least physically active female leads despite being portrayed by the athletic Kaho Takada. Dunno about Ayaka (Imoto), but also ironic that the actress that had karate background in Revice was the one portrayed Sakura's friend named... Ayaka (Oketani) instead.
In terms of importance, Tsumuri is really closer to Sofia for the time being, and her resemblance to Poppy and Izu is rather external. No, I'm sure she has a secret, there will be emotional moments in the future and maybe she'll even get into the next girl crossover, but for now, Geats is more about how Takahashi tries to surprise, and not about trying to film for the third time one scenario. |
12-31-2022, 04:06 AM | #1257 |
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EDIT - I think a lot of it also has to do with watching a show weekly making it come of as much worse than someone watching it as a legacy show, and time does heal a lot of bitterness people have. If you're putting all your expectations on the weekly to be the best thing ever, and it's not, you're going to be disappointed and rage, but if it's just another episode in an arc you can watch in a day and appreciate as a whole, both good and bad, it's a different experience.
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01-01-2023, 09:43 AM | #1258 |
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Speaking of Ghost Onari FTW. That man is pure comedy gold.
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01-01-2023, 09:57 AM | #1259 |
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That guy was a huge part of why Ghost never worked for me. In hindsight I feel bad for hating the character so much because the actor was fantastic. He did the parts so well.
It just sucks that the parts were annoying and dumb. I never like the super heavy comedy characters; I prefer writing that creates comedy by playing character traits correctly, instead of one big walking "make the funny"-machine. I won't lie, the thought of giving Ghost a rewatch has occurred to me, to see how I stand on the matter today, but then I remember there are thousands of actually good shows I could watch instead. |
01-01-2023, 10:04 AM | #1260 |
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That guy was a huge part of why Ghost never worked for me. In hindsight I feel bad for hating the character so much because the actor was fantastic. He did the parts so well.
It just sucks that the parts were annoying and dumb. I never like the super heavy comedy characters; I prefer writing that creates comedy by playing character traits correctly, instead of one big walking "make the funny"-machine.
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