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07-18-2018, 09:14 AM | #41 |
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It wasn't just the commercial. Gentoku's weird hobbies/dress sense/sense of humor was outright shown, not just implied, in ROGUE's first episode. This was always his personality - we, the audience, just haven't ever seen him in a context that would display it before.
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07-18-2018, 09:52 AM | #42 |
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07-18-2018, 07:08 PM | #43 |
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SIGH......I'm really trying, I'm REALLY trying to understand this last Arc with these Lost Fullbottles & this Black Pandora Panel....which honestly, I'm STILL kinda stumped on just why this thing exists. First off, at first I didn't understand the point of the Blizzard Knuckle, but someone did explain it to me of it being Ryuga using the new power of Vernage he has in him with it sorta makes sense now. (Although now they're backtracking saying Vernage's consciousness can still be in Misora...? Just how the heck does this work?!) Also, as a side note, and KINDA related, but it MIGHT make sense of using an ice-based weapon on Evolt because if you remember, Evolt is from the Dragon Clan of aliens. (....Which is why Cross-Z is a FRICKIN DRAGON, OMG *MINDBLOWN* ) Cross-Z Magma, which was achieved through the help of Evolt & Ryuga activating his Evolt DNA, was Magma-based. And if you notice carefully, you'd notice that Evolt kinda uses fire-like attacks as well(well, before he got his Black Hole form).....Reptiles are cold-blooded, sooooo...? OK, I know I'm reaching here, lemme stop myself XDDD
Second, CAN WE STOP WITH SILLY GENTOKU?!! I'm sorry, I can't see how people are defending this. I hate it compared to what we used to have with his character, and nothing shown in the show justifies it. He's so lame & awkward now, and it sucks. His interactions with the other characters don't hold as much weight as they used to anymore. We NEED a stoic no-nonsense character like him to be in the team, not this weird, awkward comedy in him outta nowhere. (And NO, I STILL do not accept the explanation of this being his original self, because it just doesn't make sense for him to leap to THIS amount of weirdom) Third, just WHY, OH WHY, did Gentoku & Kazumi think it was a good idea to try to infiltrate the base, where Evolt & Mad Rogue would most likely be?! And more importantly, WHY DID UTSUMI AGAIN LET THEM GO SCOT-FREE, WITH A FREE POWERUP?!! You'd think he'd have learned from back when Kazumi tried infiltrating before & breaking out with a Hazard Level increase?!! But you let them do it AGAIN?!! You didn't learn the first time?!!! WTF?!! This whole schtick of not wanting to kill off these heroes is getting really frustrating, and this wouldn't be a problem if not for how last-minute jammed & unexplained the plan is of making the Riders into Lost Smash was. Fourth, that call between Evolt & Sento was just.....laughable. I also laughed at this, cuz honestly, this was a weak way to get the two to go meet up & fight. "I can kill yall at any point" OK, but you haven't done so for HOW MANY EPISODES NOW??? How is this motivation to go out & do what he says??? It'd be different if he had a specific threat, but he just gave one of the most vague threats I've ever seen in Toku, and it WORKED?! XD God, this is so painful to watch, and I HATE IT, because Build was without a doubt in my mind about to become the best Kamen Rider Series to date. It very well earned that title by the point of when Evolt made the Pandora Tower, and moments throughout this show such as Sento killing Aoba, Ryuga's earning of Cross-Z, Isurugi's betrayal of Team Build, Evolt's manipulation of the ENTIRE STORY, etc cemented to me that this was gonna go down in history as the BEST SERIES FOR SURE.....And then all THIS CRAP happened.....Utsumi became Mad Rogue without getting much characterization himself (I SWEAR TO GOD, IF UTSUMI BECOMES THE FINAL VILLAIN...), Evolt changes his mind on destroying the world like he's BEEN working up to, Genius Form gets such a MEH debut, FLAMBOYANT GENTOKU, Misora trusting Evolt outta nowhere.....and now, THIS EPISODE.....UGH......and now, we're getting Previews hinting towards them doing a cliche "father sacrifices himself" scene.....PLEASE, Build, let this show go out in a positive end.
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07-19-2018, 12:40 AM | #44 |
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SIGH......I'm really trying, I'm REALLY trying to understand this last Arc with these Lost Fullbottles & this Black Pandora Panel....which honestly, I'm STILL kinda stumped on just why this thing exists. First off, at first I didn't understand the point of the Blizzard Knuckle, but someone did explain it to me of it being Ryuga using the new power of Vernage he has in him with it sorta makes sense now. (Although now they're backtracking saying Vernage's consciousness can still be in Misora...? Just how the heck does this work?!) Also, as a side note, and KINDA related, but it MIGHT make sense of using an ice-based weapon on Evolt because if you remember, Evolt is from the Dragon Clan of aliens. (....Which is why Cross-Z is a FRICKIN DRAGON, OMG *MINDBLOWN* ) Cross-Z Magma, which was achieved through the help of Evolt & Ryuga activating his Evolt DNA, was Magma-based. And if you notice carefully, you'd notice that Evolt kinda uses fire-like attacks as well(well, before he got his Black Hole form).....Reptiles are cold-blooded, sooooo...? OK, I know I'm reaching here, lemme stop myself XDDD
Second, CAN WE STOP WITH SILLY GENTOKU?!! I'm sorry, I can't see how people are defending this. I hate it compared to what we used to have with his character, and nothing shown in the show justifies it. He's so lame & awkward now, and it sucks. His interactions with the other characters don't hold as much weight as they used to anymore. We NEED a stoic no-nonsense character like him to be in the team, not this weird, awkward comedy in him outta nowhere. (And NO, I STILL do not accept the explanation of this being his original self, because it just doesn't make sense for him to leap to THIS amount of weirdom) Third, just WHY, OH WHY, did Gentoku & Kazumi think it was a good idea to try to infiltrate the base, where Evolt & Mad Rogue would most likely be?! And more importantly, WHY DID UTSUMI AGAIN LET THEM GO SCOT-FREE, WITH A FREE POWERUP?!! You'd think he'd have learned from back when Kazumi tried infiltrating before & breaking out with a Hazard Level increase?!! But you let them do it AGAIN?!! You didn't learn the first time?!!! WTF?!! This whole schtick of not wanting to kill off these heroes is getting really frustrating, and this wouldn't be a problem if not for how last-minute jammed & unexplained the plan is of making the Riders into Lost Smash was. Fourth, that call between Evolt & Sento was just.....laughable. I also laughed at this, cuz honestly, this was a weak way to get the two to go meet up & fight. "I can kill yall at any point" OK, but you haven't done so for HOW MANY EPISODES NOW??? How is this motivation to go out & do what he says??? It'd be different if he had a specific threat, but he just gave one of the most vague threats I've ever seen in Toku, and it WORKED?! XD God, this is so painful to watch, and I HATE IT, because Build was without a doubt in my mind about to become the best Kamen Rider Series to date. It very well earned that title by the point of when Evolt made the Pandora Tower, and moments throughout this show such as Sento killing Aoba, Ryuga's earning of Cross-Z, Isurugi's betrayal of Team Build, Evolt's manipulation of the ENTIRE STORY, etc cemented to me that this was gonna go down in history as the BEST SERIES FOR SURE.....And then all THIS CRAP happened.....Utsumi became Mad Rogue without getting much characterization himself (I SWEAR TO GOD, IF UTSUMI BECOMES THE FINAL VILLAIN...), Evolt changes his mind on destroying the world like he's BEEN working up to, Genius Form gets such a MEH debut, FLAMBOYANT GENTOKU, Misora trusting Evolt outta nowhere.....and now, THIS EPISODE.....UGH......and now, we're getting Previews hinting towards them doing a cliche "father sacrifices himself" scene.....PLEASE, Build, let this show go out in a positive end. The Gentoku point has been addressed to death so I'm skipping it They were actually TRYING to get a dose of Nebula Gas, and Utsumi chased after them, Sento and Banjo arriving complicated things and Banjo beat the shit out of Utsumi. And Evolt's plan on making them Lost Smash is mostly to fuck with them Again, Evolt REALLY likes fucking with everyone
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07-21-2018, 01:12 PM | #45 |
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Just caught up with the recent episodes and I agree that Gentoku's character has gotten pretty cringe-y instead of being funny. I mean the guy just lost his father and then after a few episodes becomes this. I would have been ok with him having a weird fasion sense as long as he keeps his seriousness and made that the joke. But even then the outfits he wears are just too ridiculous (specially that robe thing) that even someone without a fasion sense wouldnt think of wearing them. I mean the gag isn't too bad in itself (at least to me) its just that its happening at the end game where most expect the riders to take things seriously. Maybe they could have saved the fasion gag for the movie?
As for Kazumin, well I kinda symphatize with his Mii-tan fanvoyism (since I'm a fan if a certain virtual youtuber myself) but they should at least tone it down a little. Utsumi is pretty much the empty space at the bottom of a tetris stack...no one really cares about him. |
07-21-2018, 01:19 PM | #46 |
Probably a Robot
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Florida
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Eh, honestly I'm not sure I get the complaints about Gentoku. I think it makes a decent amount of sense for his character, and at least it feels like the gags are entertaining and not really that intrusive. I take more issue with Kazumin's fanboy attitude for Misora, which is much more likely to derail a scene and the tone.
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07-21-2018, 06:59 PM | #47 |
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Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Swindon, United Kingdom
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It is a bit of a sea change for Gentoku's character. In spite of the show's recent averageness however I am still willing to give this show a chance towards the end, because I suspect that the current part is down to the fact that the writer did not have experience with having to pace a show for 50 episodes while ensuring that enough happened in the story at a rate in which there could be regular merchandise releases. Hence going down the "evil father" route.
I'm surprised they haven't explained where the second Evol Driver came from, if it was made by Sento's father all they would need to do is drop a line to say so, but the fact that the show is willing to raise questions but not even answer them is a bit strange. To be honest, there are some episodes recently that I've been enjoying, but Evolt suddenly deciding he doesn't want to destroy the planet anymore basically seems like an admittance to give the heroes the chance to defeat him. OK, they did explain his reasons... and then decided to retcon the Build driver origins for conflicting reasons. Whoops. Having said that, I laughed out loud when Sawa dragged a "Miitan" pillow in, as if to pretty much sum up the entire waifu culture and pillow craze in one go. It's not even entirely out of left-field either, anyone remember this from an earlier episode? I've enjoyed this episode and the last episode, but from week to week this show isn't as compelling as it used to be and I think that's probably due to how much actually happened towards the beginning.
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