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08-15-2020, 09:09 AM | #1 |
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Honestly I've been disappointed in some Kamen Rider finishers, especially powerful form ones. Please don't hate me for this; I've some genuine favorites (link). My ideas are (extends to Movie-exclusive form):
Kabuto Hyper Form
Decade Complete Form My fanart of it. W CycloneJokerXtreme's Bicker Charge Break
W CycloneJokerGoldXtreme
Eternal Strengthening Armament Simple, just make the energy ball huge, likes of Spirit Bomb. Fourze Cosmic States (haven't had any for Fusion forms yet) Same attack, but after firing a wave with a slash, Fourze changes back Barizun Sword to Boost mode and rockets himself to the slash wave to create an attack that resembles a huge comet. It also pierces the victim. On the other hand, I want to see (whichever form) Fourze's strongest attack being the biggest calamity on space (either a supernova or black hole). Meteor (whichever the form) Have his kick function like literal meteor, burning through atmosphere and creating a huge earth crater on impact. Gaim Kiwami Arms
Drive Type Tridoron (Shift All Tires <- the one he used against Heart)
Cross-Z (any form, but preferably the strongest form) Combination attack between the Dragons and make use of the dragon projections, that it also attacks the opponent like coiling them or barraging them with fireballs, with Cross-Z doing his own thing. Ohma Zi-O This one's more of a pure idea of alternate one, not replacing what he already uses. Just some "fun" ideas of combining some of the most broken powers Heisei Rider have.
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08-15-2020, 12:26 PM | #2 |
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Gaim Kiwami Arms
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Drive Type Tridoron (Shift All Tires <- the one he used against Heart)
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Ohma Zi-O
This one's more of a pure idea of alternate one, not replacing what he already uses. Just some "fun" ideas of combining some of the most broken powers Heisei Rider have.
Oma Zi-O has the powers of all Riders which existed in his timeline, which includes the Goriders and by extension, all of Super Sentai! Imagine him summoning a Megazord army. Oma Zi-O is fun to think about.
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08-15-2020, 01:13 PM | #3 |
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Honestly I do find Rider Kicks to get a bit stale as the years went by. The last completely unique Rider Kick was Ex-Aid's but it was too CGI-ish, and before that, Drive, which is also CGI-heavy.
I mean, there is a reason why Faiz and Kabuto's Rider Kicks are so damn iconic.
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08-15-2020, 01:47 PM | #4 |
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I want a better finisher instead of whatever this was supposed to be:
I have no idea what they were thinking here. Granted, it's technically not really his finisher as he doesn't use the Fuestle but it’s the closest thing King ever does as Dark Kiva that could count as a finisher IIRC. I'm legitimately unable to get over how lame this stuff is for what's essentially the Prince of Darkness within a Kamen Rider show. Pass through the enemy as mist, kick it in the air, jump after as a wolf, transform into bats mid-air to pass them again and then Rider kick them back down. That's just the basic stuff I'm coming up with, but it's already 10x times better than... that. |
08-16-2020, 07:15 AM | #5 |
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Add Great Orange Maru to Musou Saber and DJ Gun for the ultimate blade. This is totally within Kiwami's capabilities due to its ability to summon any weapon.
I like the juggling and lap idea. It would've been nice to see the other 4 Tire Kakimazerus as well, using all 7 before mixing them for Shift All Tires. That would probably work best for Cross-ZEvol and the dragons could inhale like black holes similar to Kirby. Genm Level 1000000000 actually outdoes himself when he throws Mars in to EX-Aid in Mighty Novel X! Oma Zi-O isn't even restricted by a Game Area, so he could probably do this for real. Or worse, the freaking sun! Then he absorbs Phoenix and destroys the galaxy with a supermassive black hole fireball. Oma Zi-O has the powers of all Riders which existed in his timeline, which includes the Goriders and by extension, all of Super Sentai! Imagine him summoning a Megazord army. Oma Zi-O is fun to think about. While I was thinking about Ohma Zi-O... mind about the environment too (at least, him as a hero)! He does have those destructive powers, but he can't destroy the innocents along with the opponents in those attacks (which is why Ultimate Kuuga never used Ultimate Kick... he's freaking Yusuke after all). I was thinking using about Stage Select so the real world is unharmed (including harming Moon or other planets), and picking a planet (Moon, Mars, etc.) was meant to keep the victim away from Earth so Ultimate Kick can be freely done (like the cops in Kuuga keeping the victim away from the area Rising Kuuga fighting). Quote:
Honestly I do find Rider Kicks to get a bit stale as the years went by. The last completely unique Rider Kick was Ex-Aid's but it was too CGI-ish, and before that, Drive, which is also CGI-heavy.
I mean, there is a reason why Faiz and Kabuto's Rider Kicks are so damn iconic. Drive and Ex-Aid had CGI problems, but the finisher being unique is undeniable though; CGI comes from budget problems (though probably it's the reason why good number of the finishers are stale.. can't spend too much on it). Drive and Faiz are my favorite base Rider form's Rider Kicks though. And for Faiz there's also a distinct difference between finishers; Faiz had stellar Rider Kick, but stale Rider Punch. Quote:
I'm legitimately unable to get over how lame this stuff is for what's essentially the Prince of Darkness within a Kamen Rider show.
Pass through the enemy as mist, kick it in the air, jump after as a wolf, transform into bats mid-air to pass them again and then Rider kick them back down. That's just the basic stuff I'm coming up with, but it's already 10x times better than... that.
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08-16-2020, 08:32 AM | #6 |
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While I was thinking about Ohma Zi-O... mind about the environment too (at least, him as a hero)! He does have those destructive powers, but he can't destroy the innocents along with the opponents in those attacks (which is why Ultimate Kuuga never used Ultimate Kick... he's freaking Yusuke after all). I was thinking using about Stage Select so the real world is unharmed (including harming Moon or other planets), and picking a planet (Moon, Mars, etc.) was meant to keep the victim away from Earth so Ultimate Kick can be freely done (like the cops in Kuuga keeping the victim away from the area Rising Kuuga fighting).
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08-16-2020, 09:07 AM | #7 |
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While I don't have any ideas this does remind me of Ganbarizing actually, and how we pretty much get alternate finishers for probably every single form that debuts on TV (That aren't the scene reference ones).
Like I recall seeing one for Zi-O Decade Armor where all the final attack ride cards are scattered about and you have Zi-O zigzagging his way all around his opponent and entering each card before landing his kick. Or one of my favorites where Build KeyDragon opens up a keyhole portal, punches his opponent through. Another portal opens up above and drops the opponent to where Build performs a roundhouse kick to finish it off. |
07-08-2021, 02:23 AM | #8 |
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I want a better finisher instead of whatever this was supposed to be:
I have no idea what they were thinking here. Granted, it's technically not really his finisher as he doesn't use the Fuestle but it’s the closest thing King ever does as Dark Kiva that could count as a finisher IIRC. I'm legitimately unable to get over how lame this stuff is for what's essentially the Prince of Darkness within a Kamen Rider show. Pass through the enemy as mist, kick it in the air, jump after as a wolf, transform into bats mid-air to pass them again and then Rider kick them back down. That's just the basic stuff I'm coming up with, but it's already 10x times better than... that. ..and one resembling Saga's Snaking Death Break.
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07-08-2021, 07:44 AM | #9 |
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This is a very long (repeated) reply as of course I won't spoil myself for Kiva yet at that time, but aren't these ones actually Dark Kiva's finisher instead of your GIF there? There's 2 version, one resembling Kiva Emperor's Emperor Moon Break..
..and one resembling Saga's Snaking Death Break.
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07-08-2021, 09:06 AM | #10 |
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How about a dropkick or an axekick for a finisher? Has that been done before?
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