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01-19-2020, 09:03 PM | #18421 |
Super Lawyer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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I'm merely warning the customers who plan to purchase those figures. I'm just positioning myself as a rational consumer. Do I gain something here? No, I don't. I never advertise any other alternative products. Do I lose something here? Nope, I don't either. I'm already short on Bandai's long. It's not a major problem to me, as I haven't purchased (and will not purchase) any SHF SS with the new joint system, however desirable they are to me. It's more like uh... facepalm. On the other hand, I'd feel damned for my whole life if I saw someone (that is, Bandai) making a catastrophic decision (three in this case, or perhaps four, as several days ago they teased the SHF SS OOO Latorata Combo) and did NOT warn them. Quote:
Should we wait and see? Well, we already see the result. As far as I know, NO previous SHF releases have ever had this high rate of breakage, be it figures with arm swapping gimmick (hello, Gentaro) or without one. The conclusion is obvious. |
01-19-2020, 10:25 PM | #18422 |
MegaSilver
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,677
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It's even worse than "If you so much as look at the elbows they'll break!".
It's the DIRECTION that Bandai is taking the Shinkocchou Seihou line to. The announcement of the SHF SS Den-O proved (so far) that Bandai was doubling down (or rather, tripling down) on this new joint system, after implementing it on SHF SS OOO Tatoba and SHF SS Gatakiriba. As THE prestige line of 1:12 action figures that Bandai offers, we can safely say that this decision is going to be implemented on ALL future SHF SS releases, and probably regular SHFs as well. Now, THIS is the problem. Instead of isolating the damage and put a stop loss on their portfolio by only committing one blunder, they decided instead to commit the same blunder two(!) more times. The problem is not releasing a figure with super fragile joints. The problem is releasing a figure with super fragile joints, NOT learning from the blunder, AND committing the same blunder on two other releases. So, highly anticipated unreleased SHF SS lines (to me), like Ex-Aid, Faiz, Gaim, and God forbid, Ryuki, almost certainly will use this new joint system. We can all imagine how epic the fail will be. Well, let's sit back, and just wait and see. Let the final arbiter, time, answer this question: "How many broken joints does it take to change Bandai executives' minds?" After reading about the ooo breakage I look at my ooo figuart and it feels weak and light like something could break right away. I lost a lot of faith in bandai with this whole ooo issue and IDK if I want to buy any other ooo form release. Thanks for letting us know how bad the joints are on the ooo figure. |
01-19-2020, 11:03 PM | #18423 |
I'm an agile cat.
Join Date: Jan 2012
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The problem is the new joint system itself. No matter what kind of body it's fitted into, it will cause the same total structural failure, that is, mutilated arms.
Should we wait and see? Well, we already see the result. As far as I know, NO previous SHF releases have ever had this high rate of breakage, be it figures with arm swapping gimmick (hello, Gentaro) or without one. The conclusion is obvious. You prattle on with canned phrases like “the proof is in the pudding” like you’re so certain it’s been proven beyond a doubt, yet until more than one figure is released you can’t possibly say anything is proven. Quote:
I agree with everything you said about the future of Seihou line. I have a bad feeling that Ryuki line will have breakage like ooo if the same joints are used.
After reading about the ooo breakage I look at my ooo figuart and it feels weak and light like something could break right away. I lost a lot of faith in bandai with this whole ooo issue and IDK if I want to buy any other ooo form release. Thanks for letting us know how bad the joints are on the ooo figure. Is this you guys’ first rodeo or something? I can’t imagine anyone who follows any toyline in this day and age being so irrationally frantic. It’s one release, possibly two if Den-O is so far along in production and literally uses the exact same mould for the joints, and you’re predicting figures that won’t come out for years will be affected? This isn’t even a “benefit of the doubt” situation so much as it is a “use your God-damned brains” situation. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 01-19-2020 at 11:10 PM.. |
01-19-2020, 11:45 PM | #18424 |
Showa Girl
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 9,064
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I also feel the need to repeat that my Tatoba has been perfectly fine, and I treat it as I would any other figure and have had it almost since release. I've still yet to see anything to deconfirm that others haven't just had a bad batch.
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01-20-2020, 04:03 AM | #18425 |
Some guy. I'm alright.
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Michigan
Posts: 4,428
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Personally, I plan to just wait for Latoratah to have him posed claws out. |
01-20-2020, 08:28 AM | #18426 |
Showa Girl
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 9,064
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Likewise, and like I said earlier, if anyone is super worried about it, just refrain from swapping the forearms and the risk of breaking goes way down, since 99% of the reported breaks have happened during a forearm swap. Choose if you want him to have his claws out or not and stick to it.
Personally, I plan to just wait for Latoratah to have him posed claws out.
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01-20-2020, 11:26 AM | #18427 |
Dai Shogun
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 7,530
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Amatsu Gai, your schemes are revealed. Do you really think you could fool us that easily? Using your connections to send out sabotaged OOO-figures that break, creating an uproar and then strike and take over Tamashii Nations in the ensuing turmoil, just so that you could release S.H. Figuarts Kamen Rider Thouser under the Zaia Enterprise-branding? You fiend, we won't let you get away with this. Quote:
Honestly I don’t think there's any reason to argue about the whole thing. If it happens again with other OOO-figures or even Den-O they will either abandon or change the system. Hell, maybe they are even doing it right now. So going as far as doom saying future figures that haven’t even happened yet feels a bit premature. |
01-20-2020, 01:18 PM | #18428 |
Kawaii 5-0
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cardiff, United Kingdom
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Back in the day, I heard way more stories of people snapping the wrist joints on Kyoryu Red or the Space Sheriffs than I have people breaking their Seihou OOO. Gokai hips breaking is another one that springs to mind, but that’s more of an age thing I guess. It sucks, but it really isn’t the epidemic this thread is making it out to be.
And just to throw in, mine is fine as well.
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01-20-2020, 01:44 PM | #18429 |
Showa Girl
Join Date: Jun 2018
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One more thing:
This happened?! Have we got pics?
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01-20-2020, 01:49 PM | #18430 |
Dai Shogun
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Germany
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