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08-01-2012, 02:15 PM | #601 |
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Agreed. That's one of the things that appealed to me about Toku. It's like Anime, but with a lot less weird. Granted there's still some weird, but it's live action, so it's usually grounded in reality and features a lot more things that could physically exist, if that makes since.
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08-01-2012, 02:21 PM | #602 |
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Like physics belongs in either of these genres
The best moments in Toku just say "to hell with physics, let's do something awesome!" |
08-01-2012, 02:34 PM | #603 |
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I like the fact that these Toku shows tend to have a definitive end. I have become so jaded and angry at American superhero comics constant reboots , death and rebirth , fighting each other that it's refreshing to see the leave them wanting more method. I personally cannot wait to see superhero taisen to see the gokaigers and Eiji again.
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08-01-2012, 02:51 PM | #604 |
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Weird reason, I know.
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08-01-2012, 02:58 PM | #605 |
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I can see the reasoning though. Some animes throw physics out the window to often (though I can think of plenty that don't break physics much/at all). Toku, on the other hand has to work at it to defy physics making the moments more awesome.
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08-01-2012, 06:02 PM | #606 |
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I like the fact that these Toku shows tend to have a definitive end. I have become so jaded and angry at American superhero comics constant reboots , death and rebirth , fighting each other that it's refreshing to see the leave them wanting more method. I personally cannot wait to see superhero taisen to see the gokaigers and Eiji again.
1. Toku series such as KR and SS are given one year, with 48-52 episodes to tell their story. Simply knowing how long you have to tell your story changes everything. 2. Take a step into the 80s and 90s for comics and see what happened. Constant deaths, rampant revisions, and overall, trying to change the old characters to tell newer stories. It didn't go well, often with the original version of the character returning to salvage things. Just imagine if Toku handled things in a similar manner to Marvel or DC. When Double ended, instead of everyone screaming and hollering for more Double when OOO began, they would've simply continued Double. While OOO would've never gotten his chance, the people would've got what they wanted (Rather than waiting for his sporadic appearances in the movies). Quote:
Agreed. That's one of the things that appealed to me about Toku. It's like Anime, but with a lot less weird. Granted there's still some weird, but it's live action, so it's usually grounded in reality and features a lot more things that could physically exist, if that makes since.
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And then there's shite like Highschool of the Dead, which is literally just "Bouncing breasts in uniforms: The Series" (That series was what killed my hope for anime to be an actual medium, imo) And I like that, for the most part, Toku is kinda grounded in reality. Yes, there is a lot of CGI, but it's only to add to the fights. When a punch is thrown, it feels like there's weight to it, and I like that ^^
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I like the fact that these Toku shows tend to have a definitive end. I have become so jaded and angry at American superhero comics constant reboots , death and rebirth , fighting each other that it's refreshing to see the leave them wanting more method. I personally cannot wait to see superhero taisen to see the gokaigers and Eiji again.
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08-01-2012, 08:39 PM | #608 |
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I like the fact that these Toku shows tend to have a definitive end. I have become so jaded and angry at American superhero comics constant reboots , death and rebirth , fighting each other that it's refreshing to see the leave them wanting more method. I personally cannot wait to see superhero taisen to see the gokaigers and Eiji again.
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08-01-2012, 10:10 PM | #609 |
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I don't think you guys quite get it.
The difference between Toku and Western heroes is who we follow. For example: Can someone tell me the major character moments Shotaro has? Eiji? Tsukasa? Not the major moments of Double, OOO, or Decade, but major points of character growth. The difference is that with Toku, they're given a set number of episodes. So they tell a story in those episodes. However, the story is almost never relevant to the man behind the mask. Let's Go Kamen Rider's main point was even this. The person behind the mask doesn't mean anything. It's the mask itself. THAT'S who people remember. That's fine when you have a story to tell with a set amount of time to tell it. It's not when the story has to continue. That's where the appeal is for someone like me. I love seeing my favorite heroes being heroic, but there's a reason why Spider-Man overshot Superman in popularity. It's because the person behind the mask was someone I genuinely wanted to know more of. That's where Toku takes a dip. It sets up interesting characters, but never expands on them beyond snippets here and there (It's the problem I had with Gokaiger, in that Episode 1 Luka/Joe/Marvelous was the same as Episode 51 Luka/Joe/Marvelous, only Gai ever experiencing any form of growth). I don't want mindless action, I want characters.
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08-02-2012, 07:34 AM | #610 |
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I don't think you guys quite get it.
The difference between Toku and Western heroes is who we follow. For example: Can someone tell me the major character moments Shotaro has? Eiji? Tsukasa? Not the major moments of Double, OOO, or Decade, but major points of character growth. The difference is that with Toku, they're given a set number of episodes. So they tell a story in those episodes. However, the story is almost never relevant to the man behind the mask. Let's Go Kamen Rider's main point was even this. The person behind the mask doesn't mean anything. It's the mask itself. THAT'S who people remember. That's fine when you have a story to tell with a set amount of time to tell it. It's not when the story has to continue. That's where the appeal is for someone like me. I love seeing my favorite heroes being heroic, but there's a reason why Spider-Man overshot Superman in popularity. It's because the person behind the mask was someone I genuinely wanted to know more of. That's where Toku takes a dip. It sets up interesting characters, but never expands on them beyond snippets here and there (It's the problem I had with Gokaiger, in that Episode 1 Luka/Joe/Marvelous was the same as Episode 51 Luka/Joe/Marvelous, only Gai ever experiencing any form of growth). I don't want mindless action, I want characters. I'm currently working on W and Decade. Ryuki is after those on my list. But after that I am leaning towards Kuuga or Black-Black rx. Thoughts please! Last edited by Baltan II; 08-03-2012 at 06:57 PM.. |
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