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10-13-2016, 10:22 AM | #7241 |
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I hated Ryukendo. I think I made it through 2 episodes before I gave up on it. The cops were just over the top dumb.
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10-13-2016, 12:08 PM | #7242 |
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Ninnin Rewatch! 11 + 12
Oh and it shows up in both of these episodes so I figure I'll mention it in its own paragraph: Yoshitaka totally wrote a trashy best-selling autobiography! In English! Remember how I said way back that Ninninger has amazing world-building? I can't get over this, it's called I am the LAST NINJA (and apparently it's the NON-FICTION BOOK OF THE YEAR) and the pages are filled with completely comprehensible if clunky English. That's just so awesome! Little stuff like this is what makes me love Ninninger. EDIT: But you don't have to take my word for it! I didn't really turn on it until the late 30s (episodes, that is), but when I did, I turned hard. I felt like the show became super repetitive, and the overarching completely fell apart during its end run. At the end of the day, Ninninger is far from the worst Sentai show I've seen. There's still a lot of great stuff going on, and I'd recommend it to anyone who likes goofy-style Sentai shows and who doesn't require a satisfying overarching plot. Last edited by Kamen Rider Lucha; 10-13-2016 at 12:11 PM.. |
10-13-2016, 01:46 PM | #7243 |
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I didn't really turn on it until the late 30s (episodes, that is), but when I did, I turned hard. I felt like the show became super repetitive, and the overarching completely fell apart during its end run.
At the end of the day, Ninninger is far from the worst Sentai show I've seen. There's still a lot of great stuff going on, and I'd recommend it to anyone who likes goofy-style Sentai shows and who doesn't require a satisfying overarching plot. A big part of the fun of this whole thing is sort of reconnecting with how much I loved it at first (I mean I still do love it but for those first couple months I was infatuated, and that was coming off of ToQger, which ended up being one of my favorites). One big revelation I've already had is to think of Ninninger as being ~character-driven~ above all else. It doesn't have the most engaging plot to be sure, but that's not where its focus lies. Also it's really funny and the action is great, which helps.
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10-13-2016, 02:29 PM | #7244 |
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So what happens when you don't like most of the characters?
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10-13-2016, 03:05 PM | #7245 |
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You're probably f***ed? I mean I think everyone in Ninninger was great, and they only get better as the show goes on, but if you don't like them that's a pretty big hump to get over. You know, like, for comparison, imagine (although I don't think you have to) watching Kamen Rider Faiz but not liking melodrama.
Although if we are talking specifically about you, didn't you say you only watched 3 episodes? Unless you actively hated the cast I think you might be surprised how much more fleshed out they get as the show goes on. I hate to be the guy saying "oh, just watch half the show" like it's no big deal but I think Ninninger takes a bit to really get into the swing of things. Even where I am in the rewatch right now is already way better than the first couple episodes, in my opinion.
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10-13-2016, 03:17 PM | #7246 |
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No, I'm not referring to myself. I'm making a generalized question. If someone doesn't like the characters, why should they basically watch more of the show until it "Gets good?"
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10-13-2016, 03:29 PM | #7247 |
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I tend to just stop watching it, especially if it is the main cast. That alone is the main reason I dropped Deka hard and fast.
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10-13-2016, 03:33 PM | #7248 |
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But depending on the person, and their specific problems, they might find the show deals with those issues and end up really liking it. I know you're a big Blade fan, so you probably understand that at least a bit. Specifically with Ninninger, Takaharu's stupidity, for example, rapidly becomes better handled and by around halfway through is straight-up downplayed. If someone liked elements of Ninninger but quit early on because they couldn't handle him, it could easily be worth it to stick around. For comparison, if someone hated it because the Plot moved at a snail's pace, it won't do anything for them even later on.
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10-13-2016, 04:38 PM | #7249 |
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That said, we differ in our assessment of the action. While I agree that there are some well executed individual sequences, especially in the show's early giant-scale fights (also of note, the human-scale action in the Chozetsu upgrade episodes), in general Ninninger is where I started to see Hirofumi Fukuzawa's limitations as an action director. Fukuzawa is fantastic at choreographing stunts, but his cinematic chops are not up to snuff. If you compare his camera setups to those of any primary action director who has preceded him, they're lacking in movement, creativity, compelling shot composition, drama, and tension. His action scenes have a distinct, repetitive lack of personality -- they're like visual oatmeal. This is a huge bummer, as interesting action is one of the main things that draws me to tokusatsu. I'm happy to report that Zyuohger has brought with it an improvement in Nakazawa's style. That could be chalked up to new technologies, like camera drones, being used. It could also be due to an increased budget (this is an anniversary show, after all) that allows him to shoot in more varied locations. Whatever the reason, it's an improvement I welcome. Last edited by Kamen Rider Lucha; 10-13-2016 at 04:57 PM.. |
10-13-2016, 06:51 PM | #7250 |
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There are certainly some great characters. Kasumi is particularly excellent -- she's easily my all-time favorite Pink and one of my top-10 favorite Sentai heroes generally. I also think it's interesting to make their leader a dummy fueled purely by optimistic bravado (yes, I'm a Bakaharu fan).
She was a great character and all, but she never really did anything for me personally. Strangely enough, Takaharu has been the standout to me rewatching the show so far, which is kind of surprising. I always liked him, but for whatever reason I've been enjoying him a lot more this time around. Though Kinji is still the real Star in my book. Quote:
Fukuzawa is fantastic at choreographing stunts, but his cinematic chops are not up to snuff. If you compare his camera setups to those of any primary action director who has preceded him, they're lacking in movement, creativity, compelling shot composition, drama, and tension. His action scenes have a distinct, repetitive lack of personality -- they're like visual oatmeal. This is a huge bummer, as interesting action is one of the main things that draws me to tokusatsu.
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