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10-28-2022, 01:25 PM | #1 |
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It's live on Amazon Prime video now. Share your thoughts on the first episode!
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10-28-2022, 02:49 PM | #2 |
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First episode was largely composed of what we saw in the trailers, but the points of interest for me were:
- We see Kotaro and Nobuhiko operated on as children in a far more grueling and painful way. And in a shack in the middle of nowhere no less. - The Kaijin rights struggle is center stage here, being the backbone of the conflict thus far. It heavily parallels real life as is obvious, but notably paints it as very grey and muddled. The initial protests I think perfectly describe the dynamic with advocates and dissenters rallying on both ends with authorities caught in the middle. Most impressively IMO is the fact that the police are painted as just as divided. One cop discriminates against the Kaijin while another tries to protect them, and one cop shoots and possibly kills a Kaijin who loses his cool, though not out of seeming hatred, but rather out of stress and fear. Nothing here seems entirely black and white. - Kotaro is a Ketamine addict and fuels his addiction by taking shady jobs. He beats a Kaiju to pay back his loan, then takes a hit job on the girl who gave a pro-Kaijin speech. Said speech was facilitated by the Prime Minister, who is quickly revealed to be part of Gorgom. (which is even its own political party) - The Century King is shown alive. Kind of. It's a big grasshopper man with a missing limb and being bled for a substance called "Heaven" which seems to give Kaijin strength/longevity. Nobuhiko is chained up by Gorgom, apparently no longer fit as a replacement Century King. - Kotaro doesn't have his King Stone, and without "Heaven" he has aged albeit slowly. He finds the stone (a stone?) on the girl who gave the speech and transforms into Batta Man, violently killing a Spider Kaiju. I will say it's not bad so far, but I do still struggle a bit with it being Black specifically. It's calling back to plot points from the original but framing them quite differently, and it does feel like this is a bit of a unique tale simply dressed up in Black's name recognition. Kotaro especially feels off, a husk of a man without morals which is a very far cry from the fiery man of justice of the original even fi we're to be believed that he has grown disenfranchised. It's not even a bad character, and it fits this story quite well, but it's not really Minami Kotaro. Also the start of episode 2 is ironically, if not humourously, opened with both sides of the Kaijin argument blaming the government. This movement has also been ongoing since the 70's. |
10-28-2022, 03:19 PM | #3 |
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I'm one episode in.
I definitely wasn't prepared for the level of gore in this. I've seen Amazons, but still was not expecting Kotaro to yank out a dude's intestines before ripping his head off. That was certainly a lot. It doesn't feel out of place, though. A little excessive, but also fitting with the show's darker tone. Interesting to see them go full X-Men with the kaijin. Definitely a departure from the original, but it's working for me. I'm not sure how well this will be able to be resolved, given the nature of what Gorgom is and that Kotaro is likely going to end up mostly fighting kaijin instead of humans. I get that Greta Thunbe... er, Aoi, is meant to be the POV character for all of this, but I'm not sure if there's an ending to this that doesn't involve the deaths of all the kaijin, especially given the implication that they need Creation King milk to survive. Kotaro is a little bit too much of a cipher to get a full sense of yet. Verdict is still out on him, but I'm surprisingly enjoying what we've gotten out of Nobuhiko so far. Definitely on board with him not just floating in a bubble of stock footage for 30 episodes. |
10-28-2022, 10:14 PM | #4 |
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I'm one episode in.
I definitely wasn't prepared for the level of gore in this. I've seen Amazons, but still was not expecting Kotaro to yank out a dude's intestines before ripping his head off. That was certainly a lot. It doesn't feel out of place, though. A little excessive, but also fitting with the show's darker tone. Interesting to see them go full X-Men with the kaijin. Definitely a departure from the original, but it's working for me. I'm not sure how well this will be able to be resolved, given the nature of what Gorgom is and that Kotaro is likely going to end up mostly fighting kaijin instead of humans. I get that Greta Thunbe... er, Aoi, is meant to be the POV character for all of this, but I'm not sure if there's an ending to this that doesn't involve the deaths of all the kaijin, especially given the implication that they need Creation King milk to survive. Kotaro is a little bit too much of a cipher to get a full sense of yet. Verdict is still out on him, but I'm surprisingly enjoying what we've gotten out of Nobuhiko so far. Definitely on board with him not just floating in a bubble of stock footage for 30 episodes. 1. I'll fade into sparkles cause we cant show a corpse 2. I'll punch a man and rip out his intestines.
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10-28-2022, 11:35 PM | #5 |
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So this just doesn't appear to be available in the US for some reason??
"primevideo.com" where I've seen others say to watch it at is for other locale and we just get redirected back to Amazon.com, where I simply cannot find this show. And I'd really like to watch it on my TV instead of laptop. So... That sucks.
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10-29-2022, 12:03 AM | #6 |
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So this just doesn't appear to be available in the US for some reason??
"primevideo.com" where I've seen others say to watch it at is for other locale and we just get redirected back to Amazon.com, where I simply cannot find this show. And I'd really like to watch it on my TV instead of laptop. So... That sucks. For the laptop issue, if it and the TV have HDMI ports, connect both of them with a HDMI cable. Edit: Or just click this link and log in with a Prime account.
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10-29-2022, 02:55 AM | #7 |
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It may sound strange, but I get a very strong Showa vibe from this show. That is, First, Next, and Amazons looked like an adult reimagining of Showa riders through the prism of the Heisei era. But Black Sun seems like an adult reimagining with modern special effects, but without the influence of modern riders. I don't know if I explained it clearly, but that's how I feel about this show.
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10-29-2022, 09:35 AM | #8 |
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I’m three eps away from finishing and, yeah, didn’t expect the show to go this way.
The moral dilemma surrounding the Creation King is a good one. I had the exact same decision in the book I wrote and it’ll be very interesting to see what this show ends with. |
10-29-2022, 10:08 AM | #9 |
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I watched episode 1, seems interesting. Though I feel like it dragged on certain parts and it could've been way shorter.
If the rest of the episodes are like that (Given the shortest is 38 minutes I think, uh... that's likely) in terms of pacing, I probably won't finish this show. I can deal with slow, but this reaches level's I'm not really able to deal with. Had this been released weekly? Totally, probably would've been able to keep up. But I cannot binge like, this size of episodes. And if I try and pace them out, the way my brain works will just keep putting it off until I just unintentionally drop the show. But anyway yeah, Episode 1! Real neat concept stuff! Mostly the redux Black stuff though. Also Amazons left a way stronger first impression. |
10-29-2022, 10:37 AM | #10 |
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