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08-26-2018, 01:32 PM | #41 |
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That episode... Build hands down has my favorite final episode of any Rider show I have seen, and I have seen a lot of Rider shows! It had that totally epic final fight against Evolt, where both Build and Evolt are slowly losing their powers and there are enough explosions to satisfy even me! My only nitpick for the entire episode is that I wish Rabbit Dragon had an actual suit. Then we see the new world that was created, and all the bittersweet feelings it brings. The humorous throwbacks, the emotional reuniting of Sento and Banjou! Really, just perfection! I can barely put my thoughts together after watching it, but I just loved the ending. I've been debating, and I think that Build is probably my new favorite Rider show. It miiiiight be second, but I think that I did overall prefer it to W, even if I do prefer some things in W compared to Build and even if Build stumbled sometimes. Regardless, Faiz is now at least in 3rd place, which is slightly less embarrassing.
I'll miss Build a lot, and wont be watching Zi-O live because I want to catch up on my remaining Heisei shows. I hope Zi-O manages to live up to Build's quality somehow though!
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08-26-2018, 02:04 PM | #42 |
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I really enjoyed the finale. The show really took a while to grow on me, at least 10-15 episodes. I truly hated some of the earlier costumes (in particular the Vacuum cleaner arm one), and it all just seemed sort of dumb.
Then before I knew it I was invested in some of the characters and really liking some of the characters. Now that it's all over I'm pretty sad, I'm going to miss seeing Grease, and Banjou, Build and Misora every week. I thought it was rather touching the moment when 'Rabbit/Dragon' became a thing because those two guys are a 'Best Match!' Felt awful for him when I realized he'd saved the world and was completely alone. He saved the world but he sort of lost everything that meant anything to him. That crushing feeling of loneliness and isolation would've been brutal. ...so I was pretty happy to see Banjou show up. (the very forced 'Dragon Watch' Zi-O moment seemed pretty out of place,...but whatever I'll let it go. Seriously don't start pushing the new shit on me when the old shit hasn't even ended yet,..that's just tacky. Let Build have his moment. We'll get to Zi-O when it's time for Zi-O,..now is not that time. ) Last edited by KaijuUltraFan; 08-26-2018 at 02:06 PM.. Reason: spelling |
08-26-2018, 02:12 PM | #43 |
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Very happy to have this show over. The ending made the whole show pointless.
Also, the aspect that several individuals took it upon themselves to decide the fate of two worlds just didn't sit right with me. The whole thing that not existing is better than suffering is a terrible message. It's all well and good for Sento and Banjo, they have each other in this new world, but what about those who were lost? That didn't have a say in the matter? Just awful. I'm hoping ZiO is good. Going to be cautiously optimistic for it.
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08-26-2018, 02:28 PM | #44 |
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Really liked this finale. It wasn't incredibly surprising, based on all the guesses people here have been posting for the last week, but it still worked. I'm a big fan of pyrrhic victories in my Kamen Rider - it's why Black and Blade are probably my two favorite endings. I really like that Sento won, but ended up in a world where he didn't belong (it's kind of a pity there was no version of Katsuragi running around to really drive that home). It again reminds me a lot of Blade or most of the Showa series where the hero ends the series by wandering off into the world and leaving his friends and allies behind.
But then Banjou showed up as a second survivor and we got some more of the characters' great chemistry. That made the ending a little less bittersweet but it still really worked for me. As far as the fight goes, I really liked the last battle with Evolt, especially when Sento started regressing through older power-ups. I honestly don't remember seeing anything like that before. I know some shows (I'm pretty sure Gaim did this) reused all the old suits as part of a ramping up of power, but I don't think I've seen a Rider show burn out the stronger powers and start reverting to the weaker forms. I really dug that part of the final battle. In all, I think Build ended up being a really good show. I don't know where I'd rank it overall compared to the other shows I've seen (at least not this shortly after it ended), but it's probably pretty high on the list. I do agree that it started lagging a little bit in the late 30s/early 40s, but I never got to a point where I felt the show wasn't still really good. I'm excited for Zi-O, but I will definitely miss Build. |
08-26-2018, 03:30 PM | #45 |
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I think after this, Build is my second favourite show (behind Gaim).
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08-26-2018, 04:16 PM | #46 |
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Even though I felt a lot of my high hopes for the show had been dashed around episode 40 onward, the last few leading up to this ending I thought were honestly just about perfect.
The fight was a good spectacle, with a decent finisher (Falls short compared to Ex-Aid episode 45, personally). I was progressively afraid of what the 'new world' was going to be like and that it'd leave me disappointed, but I was really happy with the final result. More than anything, seeing Sento and Banjou come together in the end and all the callbacks to the beginning seriously made me giddy. The scene closing off with the two doing the first recap opening narration word-for-word might just be one of, if not my absolute, favourite scenes in Kamen Rider. I am not ready to move on from Build! But that's a good sign that the show is leaving on a good note. |
08-26-2018, 04:20 PM | #47 |
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While it may be a type of Trial Form, as if to respond to the strong feelings of Sento, the Driver chose to reproduce the transformation sound of “Best Match!”
This is anime as fuck but goddamn am I weeping
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08-26-2018, 05:35 PM | #48 |
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So much for the 555/balde taisen specials. When was rr able to fight? Also, misora is one of the better heroine in the recent years and her actress carry well showcasing different side of her chatacter's emotions. We will see build again in like 2 weeks then the movie war and the banjo's special. Maybe other zio movie specials.
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08-26-2018, 05:49 PM | #49 |
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Not exactly on theme discussion, but it made me think of this episode.
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08-26-2018, 06:01 PM | #50 |
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Sento,where the f*** have you been keeping that thing the past 19 episodes?! You could've at least driven it down a wall or something for old times' sake. Come on, one last chance for a bike screencap and this is all I get? Well, bike action or no, Build's finally over, and I... er... well, I kind of have some mixed feelings, and they're exactly the feelings I was worried I was going to have. For the most part, this episode left me feeling like... But then other parts of it made me feel like... ...and, having watched the episode twice now, I think I've had enough time to process it all, so in the spirit of full-circle storytelling, I'm busting out the bullet-pointed list for the first time in months: - The pacing here was on point, since the episode starts at the climax. The crazy reality rewriting nature of the ending called for a lengthy enough epilogue, and we got that. - The actual fighting part of the final fight was rather underwhelming, but the emotion of it hits perfectly and does an admirable job of distracting from things like shoddy CG and the fact that the whole fight is just two dudes smacking each other around in the dirt. I especially appreciate the callback to episode 3 because those lines from Sento were always hugely important to the show even without it dwelling on them afterwards. - Likewise, one thing I'll say upfront is that ending the show on Sento and Ryuuga is the way to do it. This series was always about them at its heart and anything else just wouldn't have felt right. - I love Katsuragi saying goodbye and the symbolism of him fading out like a ghost to drive home that, having finally set things right, Sento is no longer haunted by his past. It's a simple bit of visual storytelling that goes a long way. - Sento pulling out a script and doing the narration at the end was beyond adorable, and the simple fact that they ended the series on a meta gag like that speaks volumes about Build's sense of humor. The fact that it can pull off ending on a gag like that speaks volumes of its quality. - That melancholy scene in the cafe with the oddly appropriate music playing was neat. It's like a glimpse into what it would be like if they decided to play this conclusion as more of a downer than it actually was. - Unfortunately, that brings to the part where I complain about alternate realities for half the post. I'm seriously shocked how alone I seem to be in feeling like I do, so if there's some secret to how this works that I'm missing, please tell me. But as far as I can tell, aside from the presence of Sento and "our" Ryuuga, it would've made no difference whatsoever whether this plan to merge two worlds succeeded or failed. This "new" world seems to be identical in just about every way to what "World B" was presumably already like anyway. This whole final showdown was supposed to the ultimate confrontation between Evolt's destruction and Build's creation, an almost mythological conflict between two diametrically opposed beings with everything on the line, but when it came time for Build to actually build something, he basically just stole something that already existed instead. And those people screaming in fear as giant math equations send chunks of the Sky Wall raining down on them don't exactly look like they're being "saved". It's extremely frustrating because this ending, wild though it may be, is actually super thematically appropriate, but because of the way it was executed, it also feels like the exact opposite of that. There's all these questions being raised that aren't important to the story, but still manage to detract from it. - Why does having Evolt's DNA make Ryuuga want to dye his hair? - More seriously, if the reason there's two of him around is because "World A" him is different from "World B" him, well... doesn't that apply to just about everyone? Especially poor Misora, considering she played host to an alien being too. - Similarly, the show DOES realize Sento Kiryuu and Takumi Katsuragi aren't actually different people, right? Because if it does (and I know it does), that only furthers supports my idea that there should be two of everyone. Mind you, the show could've easily avoided all of this by just saying Ryuuga and Sento are the only ones still around because they were at the center of the whole mess or something. - Of course, if the scene at the cafe WAS meant to hint that it might be possible for people to remember "World A", then that goes a good way toward mitigating my complaints. But one, it comes off super ambiguous, and two, that still begs the question why "World B" is like the default setting for the "new" world if the whole point was to put them together. Still, I'm probably going to hold onto this idea in the future to preserve my sanity. - Or maybe the Cross-Z V-Cinema will clear this all up retroactively? I mean, the plot is liable to follow up on "other" Ryuuga, so... - Oh, and speaking of things to be cleared up later, I'm not going to whine about the Ride Watch because I have a feeling Zi-O is going to directly explain it in a few weeks. - Not that any of those last two points do anything to help Build stand on its own. - Also, why does having Evolt's DNA make Ryuuga want to dye his hair??? All of that being said, I should really stress again that I did love the episode, I still adore Build, and if I were any good at organizing favorites lists, Build would be very high up in my favorite Rider series. Like I said early on in that rant, it isn't actually the job of a good story to bog itself down explaining the minutia of the universe, and while I do wish Build had done a better job directing my attention where it needs to be, it's a hell of a long way from a bad finale. This show was great, and if Zi-O is even half this good, we're in for another fun year.
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