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05-28-2012, 04:43 AM | #1 |
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Now, these are two movies that a lot of people are split on, but I just want to post my feelings about them (having just finished The Next)
Kamen Rider The First:Overall i really enjoy this movie, while hongo really is an awkward character as a whole, he is likable and Ichimonji is a very enjoyable character in this, he's the womanizing douchebag you just can't help but love. The story, while not too terribly strong, keeps you entertained and boy is the action beautifully done. Choreography is fantastic. The suit designs in this movie are fantastic, probably my favorite designs to come out of Kamen Rider Kamen Rider The Next:Going into this movie i'd heard nothing but bad things said about this movie, but i suprisingly liked it a lot, though i am torn to say if I like it better than The first. The action, of course, is still fantastic and the suit designs are top notch, v3 being the best thing to come out of these two movies. We really don't get to see too much about V3 in this movie, but what we see I absolutely LOVED. The actor who protrays him is the same guy who plays Drake in Kamen Rider Kabuto and he is one of my favorite characters from kabuto. (and there is some layers in there that the actor of drake is playing the role of the original dragonfly rider). The horror movie subplot, takes a lot of time, and is not that very good, it isn't as bad as i feared, but it should of been dialed back a lot. I have to say I might be one of the handful of people who enjoyed this movie Overall, the first and the next are probably one of my favorite things to come out of kamen rider, the suit designs are just fantastic, the action is amazing, and overall, while the stories are not that strong, there is still something to enjoy in them I would love to see this stories continued, but that will never happen I'd love to see all these showa designs get redone in this style. Now if you excuse me, I need to track down 6 shocker riders, a cyclone, and a v3 for my collection, and probably the next versions of rider 1 and 2
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05-28-2012, 06:01 AM | #2 |
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The only thing I like about these movies are the updated Rider 1, Rider 2 & V3 designs
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05-28-2012, 11:16 AM | #3 |
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There were a lot of good ideas in these movies, but I think the big problem they both suffered from is the writer (renowned hack Toshiki Inoue) focusing way more on things that didn't really have anything to do with Kamen Riders. The First was designed to be a love story and, honestly, it worked okay as one - at least for Hongo and Asuka. The two kids subplot, though, that was nothing but a waste of screentime. It added nothing to the story, there was no explanation why we were even seeing them until the end of the movie, and when we did figure out the point it was a total anti-climax since those characters weren't all that likable. I get what Inoue was going for, but it was still a bad idea and it didn't work. I also wish Ichimonji hadn't been written as a standard Inoue secondary Rider (aka Gai Yuki mk. ... I don't know, 7 or 8 by this point).
I'm actually one of the rare people who likes The Next more than the first. Not that it was all that good, either, but it felt a little tighter as a film - specifically, we didn't waste about a quarter of the film's running time to a subplot about minor characters that never fucking went anywhere and barely had anything to do with the main characters. The Chiharu crap - and boy howdy, was it crap - at least tied directly into the story of V3. The completely different, not even slightly similar to the original story of V3 (who is, surprise of surprises, another Inoue-standard douchey secondary Rider). The whole damn thing was a mess, but at least it felt like one mess and not a mess with a second, unrelated mess thrown on top of it. In all fairness, I think that when the movies play the Rider stuff straight - the fights, the bike scenes, etc. - they are really good. The suit designs are amazing (and I still want to see at least design sketches for Riderman, X, Amazon, Stronger, and Tackle), the action direction is really solid, and in those rare, fleeting moments when the films decide to be about Kamen Rider they do it really, really well. Toei just shot itself in the foot by giving the writing duties to a guy who has his head so far up his own ass that he no longer realizes that he's run out of good ideas and is just aping other people and repeating himself over and over and over again. Oh, and you may want to rethink the Figuarts version of the Next Nigo - it's identical to the First version outside of a more scratched up helmet. Man, is anyone else bummed that we never got to see the Shin coloration versions of these suits? |
06-05-2012, 08:54 AM | #4 |
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I haven't seen The Next yet as I'm waiting for Media Blasters to release the god damn thing since I have The First from them.
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06-05-2012, 03:15 PM | #5 |
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06-05-2012, 06:50 PM | #6 |
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Any subtitled Kamen Rider video released in the US is worth buying.
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06-05-2012, 10:13 PM | #7 |
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06-08-2012, 10:17 PM | #8 |
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Just watched The First...and totally in love with the costume design...would kill for a jacket and helmet...and as I said in another thread, liked the concept that there are not monsters...but just the uniforms are animal themed...I think the side story was just to show that any one could have been a Shocker, and they have back stories as well...so when one is kicked to oblivion it shows loss...kind of like how Gundam would characterize a pilot before they would get shot down.
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06-08-2012, 10:57 PM | #9 |
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06-08-2012, 11:56 PM | #10 |
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^Several years ago Kamen Rider V3 was released on region 1 DVD by Generation Kikaida.
They were really only licensed for distribution within Hawaii having a very limited print thus the $150 price tag, which often garners uniformed criticism sadly. It's a far cry from the $500+ price tag of the R2 DVDs, plus there are a lot of great exclusive extras. Generation Kikaida does have a sale on the DVDs from time to time (one just ended last month). One might wait for one of those sales to order the set. It's much better than anything The Next has to offer in any case. Even if that movie had a chance of getting a North American release, having watched The First several times and only being able to stomach The Next one time, I will never taint my eyes with it's wretched unholy mess ever again. I don't care if it is said to have some of the best Rider action scenes, they are so few in comparison to the crap that surrounds it, I get sick remembering it.
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