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09-27-2013, 11:55 PM | #11 |
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Weirdly, I hated Mystic Force as a kid. So I cant really get into to watching it now. But I think I need to rewatch Dino Thunder, one of my favorites as a kid, and Emma Lahana
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09-28-2013, 12:19 AM | #12 |
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I found the story of Mystic Force to be very enjoyable, but the characters I never cared for.
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09-28-2013, 12:55 AM | #13 |
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I think the thing I disliked most about the Kalish era during Power Rangers was that there was always some SUPER BIG BAD GUY at the end that we either 1) didn't know about until the end of the series, or 2) didn't ever have a physical form until the end of the series.
In SPD, it's all about Grumm. Until the final few episodes where we learn of something called The Magnificence, and that's the main bad guy. Huh? In Mystic Force, it's Koragg, and then it's the Seven Demons or whatever, not to mention some half robot guy, and then FINALLY the Master becomes the main villain ... in the last episode ... and is just basically tentacle porn swapping away at Leonbow and Daggeron. In Operation Overdrive, I give him credit ... Flurious was there from beginning to end. But in Jungle Fury, we're back to Dai Shi being the main bad guy, and he's in Jarod's body for a majority of the season, gets out, and is just some CGI/bad puppet. But look at the seasons people seem to really enjoy (past MMPR). - Zeo had King Mondo as the main villain, and at the end of the series, the Rangers finally grow big and fight him without their zords. - Turbo had Divatox actually take the battle to the command center, destroy it, destroy the Power Rangers powers, and then retreat. - Space had Andros going against Astronema from the first episode to the last episode. - Galaxy had Trakeena as a major player from start to finish - Lightspeed Rescue always featured Impus and Bansheera as major enemies - Time Force had Ransik from start to finish - Wild Force had Master Org from start to finish - Ninja Storm had Lothar from start to finish - Dino Thunder had Mesagog from start to finish - RPM had Venjix from start to finish - ......even Samurai had Xandred from start to finish Introducing a new, super big bad guy at the end of a series cheapens the entire story up to that point. Kind of like a, "Hey, everything we did from the start to now doesn't matter anymore". And while that may work in major dramas and even movies, it doesn't really hold up well in a 30+ episodic series like Power Rangers. Megaforce bums me out because we're past the halfway mark of the "non-Gokaiger" footage and Vrak is still being made out to be this henchman with a goal ... but he's supposed to be the big bad. Let's get that established already!
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09-28-2013, 01:09 AM | #14 |
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Although I don't think SPD was that great a season, I think they established that Grumm was answering to a higher power really well. I also loved how they did it, because you never knew if he was just plain nuts or not.
Jungle Fury on the other hand, I feel suffered the other problem, basically every villain in that show was a General, and it was amazing just how monotonous it got when every villain was 'THE STRONGEST WARRIOR IN MY ARMY'. Like I'd rather not have filler, or monsters of the week, but it made you realise how important they are in establishing the threat of the important villains.
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09-28-2013, 03:51 AM | #15 |
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But I prefer a final confrontation with something then what we got in MMPR and Zeo, in which they never had a real final battle with Rita, Zedd or Mondo. Even Master Vile and Serpentera just left without a big finale... It left me feeling like something was lacking. Anyway, I really enjoyed Mystic Force up until the last arc. It was weird that they decided to try and put in the whole "magic family" theme of Magiranger right near the end (but only for three characters) and it just didn't work and meant that every scene was just "Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick" up until the very ending because everyone except him and his parents became pretty much irrelevant. Last edited by Starscream Gaga; 09-28-2013 at 03:57 AM.. |
09-28-2013, 05:34 AM | #16 |
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I think the thing I disliked most about the Kalish era during Power Rangers was that there was always some SUPER BIG BAD GUY at the end that we either 1) didn't know about until the end of the series, or 2) didn't ever have a physical form until the end of the series.
In SPD, it's all about Grumm. Until the final few episodes where we learn of something called The Magnificence, and that's the main bad guy. Huh? In Mystic Force, it's Koragg, and then it's the Seven Demons or whatever, not to mention some half robot guy, and then FINALLY the Master becomes the main villain ... in the last episode ... and is just basically tentacle porn swapping away at Leonbow and Daggeron. In Operation Overdrive, I give him credit ... Flurious was there from beginning to end. But in Jungle Fury, we're back to Dai Shi being the main bad guy, and he's in Jarod's body for a majority of the season, gets out, and is just some CGI/bad puppet. But look at the seasons people seem to really enjoy (past MMPR). - Zeo had King Mondo as the main villain, and at the end of the series, the Rangers finally grow big and fight him without their zords. - Turbo had Divatox actually take the battle to the command center, destroy it, destroy the Power Rangers powers, and then retreat. - Space had Andros going against Astronema from the first episode to the last episode. - Galaxy had Trakeena as a major player from start to finish - Lightspeed Rescue always featured Impus and Bansheera as major enemies - Time Force had Ransik from start to finish - Wild Force had Master Org from start to finish - Ninja Storm had Lothar from start to finish - Dino Thunder had Mesagog from start to finish - RPM had Venjix from start to finish - ......even Samurai had Xandred from start to finish Introducing a new, super big bad guy at the end of a series cheapens the entire story up to that point. Kind of like a, "Hey, everything we did from the start to now doesn't matter anymore". And while that may work in major dramas and even movies, it doesn't really hold up well in a 30+ episodic series like Power Rangers. Megaforce bums me out because we're past the halfway mark of the "non-Gokaiger" footage and Vrak is still being made out to be this henchman with a goal ... but he's supposed to be the big bad. Let's get that established already! In Mystic Force though, The Master was always the big bad from start to end. Everything they were doing was for him, and to ressurect him, with mini-plots happening around it. Like Koragg, and Calendor, and The Seven Dark Beasts. Or whatever they were named. |
09-28-2013, 01:38 PM | #17 |
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I have no problems with them not establishing Vrak as a big bad yet because Goseiger did it so well with Buredoran/Brajira that I have faith that Megaforce can do a good job with it, even if it goes about it slightly differently. We know about Vrak's connection to the Super Megaforce villains, but we still don't know how that'll play out just yet so we could end up seeing Vrak stick around a bit longer.
I'm just a big fan of henchmen rising up to be big bads I guess. Explains why Enter and Brajira are two of my favourite Sentai villains.
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09-30-2013, 10:48 AM | #18 |
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Meanwhile, I don't have much faith at all, but that's due to having to force myself to watch episodes of Megaforce...I just don't think Vrak's story will be handled well.
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09-30-2013, 11:39 AM | #19 |
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Rewatching PR Samurai.. And inexplicably I'm enjoying it more the second time around
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09-30-2013, 11:53 AM | #20 |
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It's a carbon copy of Shinkenger with MMPR sillyness and that's pretty awesome, I actually really like it, simply decided not to follow it since at some point I'll watch Shinkenger.
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