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01-20-2020, 03:14 PM | #18431 |
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01-20-2020, 05:05 PM | #18432 |
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The thing is, I’ve swapped the forearms out multiple times and I still haven’t seen even a hint of breakage. I’m of course gentle with it because it was still a high end £45 collector’s figure, but from what’s being said the amount of force I apply should have broken it by now full stop. Naturally there’s more than enough reports to show the issue is widespread and Bandai deserves a lot of criticism for it especially on such a popular figure, but there’s so many reports of the opposite that I’m not willing to believe it’s an engineering problem instead of a QC problem with particular batches.
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Back in the day, I heard way more stories of people snapping the wrist joints on Kyoryu Red or the Space Sheriffs than I have people breaking their Seihou OOO. Gokai hips breaking is another one that springs to mind, but that’s more of an age thing I guess. It sucks, but it really isn’t the epidemic this thread is making it out to be.
And just to throw in, mine is fine as well. the new joint system, notoriously the new elbow joint system. Not Fourze Driver, wrist joints, hip joints. They're all different stories. Quote:
Honestly I don’t think there's any reason to argue about the whole thing. If it happens again with other OOO-figures or even Den-O they will either abandon or change the system. Hell, maybe they are even doing it right now.
So going as far as doom saying future figures that haven’t even happened yet feels a bit premature. Quote:
Amatsu Gai, your schemes are revealed. Do you really think you could fool us that easily? Using your connections to send out sabotaged OOO-figures that break, creating an uproar and then strike and take over Tamashii Nations in the ensuing turmoil, just so that you could release S.H. Figuarts Kamen Rider Thouser under the Zaia Enterprise-branding?
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01-20-2020, 05:36 PM | #18433 |
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Where? I've seen a lot of posts from you on this but I don't recall one where you gave your explanation.
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01-20-2020, 06:09 PM | #18434 |
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http://www.tokunation.com/showthread...384#post750384 http://www.tokunation.com/showthread...599#post752599 http://www.tokunation.com/showthread...339#post753339 In the attachment you can find 2 pictures for post #2, since TasteToy's website is currently in maintenance. |
01-20-2020, 07:13 PM | #18435 |
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These posts:
http://www.tokunation.com/showthread...384#post750384 http://www.tokunation.com/showthread...599#post752599 http://www.tokunation.com/showthread...339#post753339 In the attachment you can find 2 pictures for post #2, since TasteToy's website is currently in maintenance.
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01-20-2020, 07:27 PM | #18436 |
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To be precise: the joint's components, since they split the actual joint into 2 components. So, you're placing the new joint system in the lower hierarchy of culprits, below manufacturing issues and QC issues? As far as I know, you CANNOT make something smaller & more complex without INCREASING FRAGILITY. ALL materials have their strength LIMIT. All materials, no exception. Even POM plastics, the time tested industrial material that can be considered THE toughest of all plastics, have its limit. Basically, they use up all the material's strength, pushing it closer to its fatigue limit. The new joint system has no REDUNDANCY in strength. Redundancy is, from risk management standpoint, your only INSURANCE against total failure. Using this reasoning, THE ultimate rational question to ask is: "What is the WORST CASE SCENARIO (aka WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT WILL HAPPEN) when the material DO reach its strength limit?" The answer is clear: TOTAL STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE. Perhaps you can Google the term "fragility detection"? Last edited by Zolda; 01-21-2020 at 01:19 AM.. Reason: Fixing typos. |
01-20-2020, 07:29 PM | #18437 |
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If it was as simple as the post being too small, every SHF's wrists would be at risk. There's nothing inherent to the joint design itself that makes it doomed to destruction, otherwise every single OOO figure would have that problem. You rant for pages and post memes like you think it's self-explanatory, but you haven't offered a shred of real evidence beyond the simple fact that some broke, therefor all must break forever into the future, and that Bandai will intentionally release time bombs going forward with no regard to feedback or reports of breakage. Do you realize how utterly loony you sound? Screaming about "DISASTERS" and shouting down at anyone who even attempts to approach the conversation with a level head, I'd almost think you were being facetious. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 01-20-2020 at 07:35 PM.. |
01-20-2020, 07:37 PM | #18438 |
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I did, and you're still not saying anything worth a damn.
If it was as simple as the post being too small, every SHF's wrists would be at risk. There's nothing inherent to the joint design itself that makes it doomed to destruction, otherwise every single OOO figure would have that problem. You rant for pages and post memes like you think it's self-explanatory, but you haven't offered a shred of real evidence beyond the simple fact that some broke, therefor all must break forever into the future, and that Bandai will intentionally release time bombs going forward with no regard to feedback or reports of breakage. Do you realize how utterly loony you sound? Screaming about "DISASTERS" and shouting down at anyone who even attempts to approach the conversation with a level head, I'd almost think you were being facetious. The weak point is NOT the metal post. And could you please refrain yourself from ad hominem attacks? Thank you. |
01-20-2020, 07:58 PM | #18439 |
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I unfortunately have.
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The weak point is NOT the metal post.
My point is, this is hardly the first time this kind of joint has ever existed. It is not a design flaw, or at least not one that can never ever be amended within the joint's design. You are literally saying every figure ever to use this joint design are doomed to fail, but it is not, we have evidence it is not, and you have zero evidence this will be a problem on future SHFs. Reason and rational deduction tells us, however, that in the face of so many reports of breakage Bandai will adjust their design/production going forward, especially as the SS line is heavily promoted as one of their most high-end product lines. It's silly to assume theoretical figures that haven't even been announced yet will suffer from breakage when we have only one release with these new elbows so far. Quote:
And could you please refrain yourself from ad hominem attacks?
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01-21-2020, 01:35 AM | #18440 |
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