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06-11-2020, 01:22 AM | #591 |
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The Ryusei School alumni (“Go Meteors!”) have gathered to visit Mari in the hospital, as she lays dying from Sawada’s attack. They mostly end up more useless than normal, a shadow made of four humans that follows Kusaka around, but there’s one part I loved. There’s one dude who, right away, wants to bail. He’s got work, and she’s in a coma, so maybe he should just split, if everyone’s cool with that. One dude blows up at him, accusing him of being heartless in abandoning Mari. But he’s just like, I Did Not Sign Up For This To Be My Life. And I get that! That is a real human emotion to have about all of this!
I love the idea of how the Ryusei School alumni seem to this one alumnus. He got a job, he’s building a life, and these assholes keep dragging him back into Belts and Gear and Orphnochs and then this one girl he hasn’t seen in years is in a coma now? And he’s got inventory on Monday, and he was going to take his car in for an oil change today, and, like, no. You guys. The other students are like those high-drama high school friends you had who think you’re still friends, while you’re living an adult life and trying to escape their depressing gravity. This guy, I kind-of wish we could follow him more. But, I mean, he’s almost definitely going to get killed next episode? |
06-11-2020, 04:33 AM | #592 |
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Sadly, here's where the plot gets a little bit iffy. Hope the next couple of episodes do something to shake things up a bit.
Here comes my first Delta nitpick. Something that I found really annoying about Kitazaki Delta was that he never seemed any more powerful when transformed than in his Orphnoch form. In fact, many of his OP abilities are sealed away, so he never actually feels like the threat he's supposed to be. And as per gun-wielding hero tropes, the Delta Blaster is either underused or rather nerfed when it is used. It's one thing if he were too OP as Delta and got bored of it, but that really wan't the case at all. Quote:
This episode 75% didn’t work for me, but that being how the Belts are treated? I love it. It’s the ultimate Faiz thing, no one giving a shit about the main weapons of the show. (Houjou is so furious when he thinks Kitazaki threw the Delta Gear away, since they were killing themselves to get it!) It’s such a fun, backwards way of moving pieces around, having it all happen through apathy and boredom rather than concerted effort. Brilliant.
Also, if I remember correctly, this is the only time when we see all three belts together, being owned by one person. Don't mind me bragging, but while it took quite a bit of time and effort, I finally managed to recreate that scene with my CSM collection and replica cases! Last edited by Actar; 06-11-2020 at 06:44 AM.. |
06-11-2020, 05:26 AM | #593 |
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Reading so many parts of that overview was... really amusing. Looking forward to your reaction on future episodes.
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06-11-2020, 06:26 AM | #594 |
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Given that Kitazaki gave up the Delta Gear in the same episode that new guy Mihara appears, you can see where this is going.
As I promised back when Kusaka debuted (I’m too lazy to quote myself) and because you’ve already had Harada’s previous major role explained to you, here’s the second part of that compilation. https://youtu.be/uI8nEnrSUaU And since Kento Handa’s over Tokusatsu role is in neither of those videos, I’ll tell you he was the top third of this robot https://youtu.be/w43OQpL8zVQ Ps. I told you the title of this episode included “Shin”, because one of its meanings is “death”. I was playing around with the intricacies of the Japanese language. |
06-11-2020, 07:04 AM | #595 |
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Could you not keep hinting at events that haven't happened yet? I myself might accidentally speak too much on occasion due to foresight, but you're just giving away future plot points for no reason.
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06-11-2020, 09:45 AM | #596 |
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Somehow, in an episode titled "Mari Dies", Die finds absolutely nothing to say about Mari's death....
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I think I might interpret it a little differently.
Takumi's guilt is maybe pretty justified? He made a few bad decisions, and his friend got hospitalized because of it. Sawada was a bad dude, with plenty of evidence to support that view. Takumi wanted him to be not a bad dude, because that'd mean Yuuji wasn't a bad dude. So Takumi went in wanting to be swayed, and that got a friend seriously hurt. So when Yuuji shows up blaming him, I think there's a part that wants to punish Yuuji because he couldn't punish Sawada. But I think there's a part of Takumi that wants to be punished. He messed up, and he needs to pay for that. If that means he gets beat up by someone he hates, all the better for his penance. I think we interpreted it mostly the same way, except my take is that Takumi's change of mind is something that happened gradually from wanting to punish Kiba for deceiving him to wanting to be punished. He saw Mari die in front of him and there was nothing he could do about it. That was the trigger. He didn't just screw up, he failed his purpose as Faiz and that takes his self-loathing to a whole new level where his hatred for himself surpasses his hatred for Kiba, even giving up on being Faiz since he feels unworthy of it. I said Takumi's guilt was excessive since his attempt to redeem Sawada wouldn't have been so reckless if only Kusaka hadn't intervened in his friendship with Kiba, screwing up his whole opinion of Orphenochs in the process. Kusaka can't see it but he's indirectly responsible for Mari's death by catalyzing Takumi's change in behavior. It's good that Takumi accepts the blame for his role in her death but the problem is how he deals with his guilt. He mopes, beats himself up and gives up on being Faiz and none of that punishment is helpful to anybody, least of all himself. Quote:
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But, y’know, fine, it’s here, let’s talk about it. The Ryusei School alumni (“Go Meteors!”) have gathered to visit Mari in the hospital, as she lays dying from Sawada’s attack. They mostly end up more useless than normal, a shadow made of four humans that follows Kusaka around, but there’s one part I loved. There’s one dude who, right away, wants to bail. He’s got work, and she’s in a coma, so maybe he should just split, if everyone’s cool with that. One dude blows up at him, accusing him of being heartless in abandoning Mari. But he’s just like, I Did Not Sign Up For This To Be My Life. And I get that! That is a real human emotion to have about all of this! I love the idea of how the Ryusei School alumni seem to this one alumnus. He got a job, he’s building a life, and these assholes keep dragging him back into Belts and Gear and Orphnochs and then this one girl he hasn’t seen in years is in a coma now? And he’s got inventory on Monday, and he was going to take his car in for an oil change today, and, like, no. You guys. The other students are like those high-drama high school friends you had who think you’re still friends, while you’re living an adult life and trying to escape their depressing gravity. This guy, I kind-of wish we could follow him more. But, I mean, he’s almost definitely going to get killed next episode? Quote:
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The rest of the plot, I’m straining to remember. This one was… not a great episode. The Takumi/Yuuji stuff, despite an awesome intro, gets such short shrift it is criminal. They fight to a draw, which frustrates Kitazaki so much that he gives up the Delta Gear to Sawada, who views it as a crutch and gives it up to Kusaka. Meanwhile, Takumi once again feels so trapped by indecision and guilt (can’t kill Yuuji, can’t get killed by Yuuji) that he gives up the Faiz Gear to Keitaro, who can't use it so he gives it up to Kusaka. Kusaka has every belt at the end of this episode, and he mostly got them because everybody else thinks they’re lame. This episode 75% didn’t work for me, but that being how the Belts are treated? I love it. It’s the ultimate Faiz thing, no one giving a shit about the main weapons of the show. (Houjou is so furious when he thinks Kitazaki threw the Delta Gear away, since they were killing themselves to get it!) It’s such a fun, backwards way of moving pieces around, having it all happen through apathy and boredom rather than concerted effort. Brilliant. It wasn't even "Shin" in the title. It was "Shisu". The joke about Shin Dan Kuroto Kami-sama was all for naught!
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06-11-2020, 09:50 AM | #597 |
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06-11-2020, 12:00 PM | #598 |
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The dude doing the full Dante Hicks "I'm not even supposed to be here today!" routine is played by Atsushi Harada, one of the rare Faiz actors to have a notable tokusatsu role before Faiz. In this case he was the Green Ranger on 1999's GoGoV, the show that was ported over to the US as Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue.
That dude really finds some honesty in his performance, and it's the best thing about the Ryusei School story. I'm so incredibly into the thought of one guy feeling shackled to these other orphans he grew up with. It's bad enough he had to spend his childhood in a mysterious school for mysterious orphans. Does he seriously have to squander his adulthood with the same group, now that they've graduated to full-on sacrificial combat? It's a great time to have other plans! Quote:
Sadly, here's where the plot gets a little bit iffy. Hope the next couple of episodes do something to shake things up a bit.
Here comes my first Delta nitpick. Something that I found really annoying about Kitazaki Delta was that he never seemed any more powerful when transformed than in his Orphnoch form. In fact, many of his OP abilities are sealed away, so he never actually feels like the threat he's supposed to be. And as per gun-wielding hero tropes, the Delta Blaster is either underused or rather nerfed when it is used. It's one thing if he were too OP as Delta and got bored of it, but that really wan't the case at all. Quote:
Hell yeah. Not only that, but I love how the belts aren't locked to a single person. This is kinda meta, but this is why the Faiz Gear are some of my favorite belts, along with the belts from W and Gaim. If you have the roleplay toys, it's actually within the realm of believability that you'd be able to wear them and use them.
Also, if I remember correctly, this is the only time when we see all three belts together, being owned by one person. Don't mind me bragging, but while it took quite a bit of time and effort, I finally managed to recreate that scene with my CSM collection and replica cases! Quote:
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If it turns out that she's 100% forever dead... I don't love it? There's the obvious trope of Now All These Men Are Upset of it all, but more than that, I don't know that I like it as the end of Mari's story. Her dying because she trusted Sawada and wanted to see the best in him is... it doesn't feel like where 30 episodes of Faiz were building up to? So, yeah, felt like the middle of the story, not the end, so I wanted to wait to talk about it. Quote:
You're actually not too far from the truth. Takumi wasn't quite at the "I want to be punished by my arch enemy" stage then, but now he's not just responsible for putting Mari in a hospital, he's responsible for putting her in an early grave and it doesn't get much worse than that. Imagine how vexed Kusaka's going to be when he finds out.
I think we interpreted it mostly the same way, except my take is that Takumi's change of mind is something that happened gradually from wanting to punish Kiba for deceiving him to wanting to be punished. He saw Mari die in front of him and there was nothing he could do about it. That was the trigger. He didn't just screw up, he failed his purpose as Faiz and that takes his self-loathing to a whole new level where his hatred for himself surpasses his hatred for Kiba, even giving up on being Faiz since he feels unworthy of it. I said Takumi's guilt was excessive since his attempt to redeem Sawada wouldn't have been so reckless if only Kusaka hadn't intervened in his friendship with Kiba, screwing up his whole opinion of Orphenochs in the process. Kusaka can't see it but he's indirectly responsible for Mari's death by catalyzing Takumi's change in behavior. It's good that Takumi accepts the blame for his role in her death but the problem is how he deals with his guilt. He mopes, beats himself up and gives up on being Faiz and none of that punishment is helpful to anybody, least of all himself.
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06-11-2020, 01:27 PM | #599 |
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I feel like it's the other way around, where Kitazaki felt too-overpowered as an Orphnoch, so he became Delta to have more of a challenge and get the other Riders' attention. (Which, ha ha, man, making the most powerful, feared form on the show a handicap for an Orphnoch? Hilarious.) Now that Delta isn't even getting to fight, he's fine giving it away.
That's... actually rather brilliant. Never thought of it that way! (^.^') Still, I really wished Delta lived up to its initial hype. |
06-11-2020, 01:42 PM | #600 |
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It's weirdly common for Kamen Rider, though. So many new forms or upgrades or Riders are introduced as None More Powerful, and then a handful of episodes later they can't keep up with the monsters. Usually it's power creep, but here it's just like the show decided Delta being powerful was dumb, so they ignored it.
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