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09-13-2021, 09:12 AM | #31 |
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Ikki and Vice join the list of extreme bicycle Kamen Riders alongside Beast, Genm and EX-Aid. I think Sougo, Ryoutarou and Shounen should take notes from them.
Meanwhile, Daiji does some pretty cool stuff on his motorcycle like a more conventional protagonist, which probably references how he was originally chosen to become Revi and his apparent future of becoming the Secondary Rider. His Fenix uniform looks more fashionable to me than Ikki's outfit as well. The Megalodon Deadman comes from a golf player. If anything is a symbol of the devil for us Rider fans, it's golf! Clearly this is all Decade's fault!
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09-13-2021, 03:04 PM | #32 |
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The episode 2 "The Demons are All Just Demonic Bad Guys!?" reminds me so much of Den-O's epsiode 4 "Get Out, Demon! I’m Serious". The story had Vice's lack of moral and ethics causing outright disaster, and Ikki (who's already always annoyed with Vice's antics) cutting off Vice for good, and won't stop until Vice owes up to his mistakes and vow to do good, even when he had to fight Deadmans as human with his (and Vice's) life at risk. Like how Momo uses Ryotaro's body to commit a questionable action that hurts others (even if it's to help Ryotaro), thus Ryotaro cuts him off and fights as the useless Plat Form until Momo apologizes and make a good vow.
Though Ikki's family centered, he still has a strong principle of morality where it's more emphasized here. He wants to take care of Shiawase-Yu as his primary job and activity, but despite his disinterest of becoming a Kamen Rider and/or joining Fenix, he'd also jump into others' help as Genta informed the Deadman's location to Daiji, and makes sure Daiji evacuates the civilians, also believing that power is meant to protect people (redundant to mention family too). Yukimi may also turn into his driving factor to become a Rider as she reminds him that they can take care of Shiawase-Yu but only him can take care of the world. His refusal to become a Rider later is also something akin to blaming himself, which for me, is also a noble trait as it means they put others before themselves, even if it doesn't produce success. Revice's 2 Riders at once trait provides an unique way to punish Vice as well, Ikki turning into Revi just so that he can beat up the materialized Vice. Vice did something in this episode that is probably even worse than what Momo did at ep. 4, as at least Momo intended to help Ryotaro, though it caused misfortune upon non-Ryotaro people. Here, Vice didn't have any nobility for his actions, he just seeks conflict due to his love of fighting (a trait Momo also had), tempting Araki to release his inner demon, and his other aim is an even worse one to just eat humans while Ikki is fighting (and thus he gets materialized). Other than that, Vice is somehow significantly more intelligent than the usually mindless demons, and this is how he got to tempt Araki, by faking trying to eat someone. Luckily he's the type of morally unjust comedic character that has restrictions to keep him from going too far, not completely though as this episode showed. like his life depending on Ikki's, only materializing when he henshins as Revice, and otherwise being intangible and unseen spirit, where the extent of the trouble he can cause are annoyance and misunderstandings (as Ikki'd seem like talking to his family, especially worse when he's riled up like to Genta). Daiji's the other central focus for this episode, character-wise. It seems that here Daiji doesn't have any ill feelings towards Ikki, knowing that Ikki can become a Rider, he's focused on recruiting him as one of the Fenix member to help them fighting Deadmans, even if he won't take the center stage. He's also willingly listens to Ikki's order and later tries to keep Ikki becoming a Rider (especially with his life being at danger), practically relinquishing his role as a Rider to him. Other than their inner demons and how bad cycle of revenge is, Araki and Ibata demonstrates how dangerous the existence of superpower is, as in someone without a strong moral code, there's a big chance of them to exploit the powers to do whatever they want due to less restraint and more freedom provided by the power, and the power would even magnify the damages a cycle of revenge can do. Though luckily the actions of the Kamen Rider (Ikki particularly) made Ibata see the errors in his ways and stop Araki himself. For something not really usual in KR, the guest star of the week coming in pairs mean there's 2 MOTW at once, though for what I said above about Vice being abnormally intelligent among his kind, I wish both of the MOTWs Kamakiri and Megalodon Deadman also play up Araki and Ibata's worst traits as their personality to reaffirm about the demon within; damages from magnified negative trait equipped with destructive power. The other characters get even less of the screentime compared to those above, albeit it's probably necessary to build up Revice dynamic: Hiromi disapproves of civilian becoming a Rider and got demoted; I'm wondering if his next arc is about how failure isn’t the end of your story and learning to accept that, or him turning into a total disaster of a person and either becoming his own antithesis or reveal his true colors. George as usual goes fanboying to Revice's Eagle Genome debut, but continues to show dark ambiguous side of him seemingly reveling to Hiromi's failure and the opening with him excitedly looking at the experimented 3 legendary Riders (original, Black, Kuuga) in a tank. Yujiro seems to be the drill sergeant-type character expecting the best and having high expectations to fill, but the strictness goes too far that he'd treat low-ranked members like Hiromi as worthless, insisting others to not listen to talentless individuals. Sakura still presents herself as a no-nonsense and dry type of person to snark at silly antics, but I think this time it seems just spiteful to mock her dad's origami. Other than that the opening shows her as a big deal in karate to possess black belt and taking down the competition. Said dad Genta is apparently set up to have a bigger role, which is something good if done; would want to see the family focus not only as to fill in numbers, but making full use of each like a collective meat story about them all while still making them distinct. Aguilera is shown to prioritize Giff like how Ikki prioritizes family first, to the point of not liking others like Olteca interfering. Said Olteca was the one to take the center stage in this episode among the Deadmans, being the one to go outside and corrupting humans, but had pleasant demeanor; prefering his targets to willingly accept Vistamps. The opening had a nod on Agito with the painting-esque scene at the start, though I don't fully understand that yet, and other than some stuff I talked above in the character talk, there seems to be an implication of Ikki and Vice switching roles, which'd add up more to their dynamic. Other than that, Ikki's Vistamps is revealed to be able to... speed up a bicycle, which is a gag moment of a bicycle outspeeding a motorcycle easily, but is random too. There's a debut of Revice's another form, the W-motif Eagle Genome (does George just randomly model an animal with past Riders due to enthusiasm?) with count up feathers instead of sins as catchphrase, and to catch up with the flying Kamakiri Deadman. And Revice's seemingly ultimate ability of both combining into 1, shaped in the animal they represent in their current form. Eagle Genome has less stats than Rex one, so using Rex to fight Megalodon Deadman was the more ideal move, with Vice's rex abilities shown to breath fire and slap opponents with big tail too; I wonder if those abilities are exclusive or both Riders can have it. The finisher of the Rex one is a mere stomp on the opponent enhanced with energy though by jumping high... with the Eagle one being a spiraling kick enhanced with green cyclone like W. There's a drawback that doubles as a gag, with the combination not being actual merging, and Revi can let go of Vice, and Vice's position of the Rex one being directly behind... Revi's butt. Vice should learn what the toilet joke of his can inflict to others in Saber finale from that. And for all the science can provide in a Rider... a simple drone was the tool Fenix use to spy on them!
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09-13-2021, 07:49 PM | #33 |
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I am still baffled why FENIX needs a perpetually flying airship as their base, with the internal rooms looks like they are in a concrete buildings...have we actually see FENIX personnel descent from that airship?
Also Ikki and ...Vice's (what is the demon actual name anyway?) dynamic looks interesting so far, and Ikki's family looks more...normal people than usual gallery of beautiful people we have in several rider series (I think starting from Ex-Aid to Saber). This is interesting series so far. Hopefully TOEI don't force the series to have tons of riders from the start; it kills my interest on Saber (that and GENM's inability to supply fast) |
09-13-2021, 07:52 PM | #34 |
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It's Vice. Like Woz, Horobi etc his actual name is his rider name
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09-13-2021, 07:59 PM | #35 |
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I am still baffled why FENIX needs a perpetually flying airship as their base, with the internal rooms looks like they are in a concrete buildings...have we actually see FENIX personnel descent from that airship? the start; it kills my interest on Saber (that and GENM's inability to supply fast)
I liked the episode, although I'm still not warming up to the suits, but I am enjoying the insane combination gimmick. Really liking Ikki and the darker take on the Den-O arrangement. |
09-13-2021, 08:33 PM | #36 |
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I think it's to make me wonder if I started watching an episode of Ultraman by mistake.
I liked the episode, although I'm still not warming up to the suits, but I am enjoying the insane combination gimmick. Really liking Ikki and the darker take on the Den-O arrangement.
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09-13-2021, 09:04 PM | #37 |
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I assume it's probably there for the inevitable "Revice quickly needs to either raid or save the Fenix HQ while on his hover-bike/hover-Vice" scene so Toei can justify buying an actual hover-bike for the series' rider machine.
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09-13-2021, 09:29 PM | #38 |
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Well, we wouldn't want our airship to just be grey, metallic, and corporate now do we? Gotta have some neat looking walls to keep up the morale.
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09-14-2021, 01:01 AM | #39 |
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Speaking of Fenix I kinda feel bad for Hiromi so far.
It feels he is a genuinely heroic person but who gets trashed by circumstances (fail Henshin in Ep1 and lab attack by deadmans before the show). I hope he will have more relevance in the story than someone like Utsumi in Build, becoming a late, forgettable rider |
09-14-2021, 01:33 AM | #40 |
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Speaking of Fenix I kinda feel bad for Hiromi so far.
It feels he is a genuinely heroic person but who gets trashed by circumstances (fail Henshin in Ep1 and lab attack by deadmans before the show). I hope he will have more relevance in the story than someone like Utsumi in Build, becoming a late, forgettable rider
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