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08-05-2015, 03:49 PM | #21 |
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Figures who are supposed to levitate/fly usually include one. Kamen Riders don't because most of them can't fly. If you want to use stands for action sequences, they are sold separately.
I think this is perfectly reasonable. @Topic: I get why some guys are a little disappointed, but honestly I was more angry at Type Speed coming with pretty much nothing. With this form he might not use weapons, and they don't have much hands because this form will only appear for like 10 minutes, not enough time to do some memorable poses with his hands. They could include 6 pairs of hands for all kinds of weapons but what's the point if the form isn't using any. It's just greedy. And it's costly for the consumer. And I'm probably mainly complaining because the first japanese action figure line I got invested in were figmas and those have had standardized stands since they started, so really don't pay me any mind. Similarly, I think there are enough generic hand gestures that they could include with any given figure even if it's not completely necessary or accurate. It's a premium line of figures with fairly high prices (especially these exclusives). I really don't think there's any excuse to not include at least some gripping hands or something. |
08-05-2015, 04:01 PM | #22 |
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At face value exclusives don't cost that much more than the retail figures - like 1000-1500 yen at the most (although with prices seemingly having gone up a bit recently on both sides, the difference might start getting a bit wider, idk).
People seem to forget that the prices they pay on Amiami etc. are considerably lower than the prices Bandai set. Example, Amiami might be charging 3140 yen for Mach but his RRP according to the Tamashii website is 4320 yen. So Bandai aren't suddenly ripping you off with exclusives, the stores you buy from are the ones making the price gap more noticeable. As for middleman fees and the like, again Bandai can hardly be blamed for that - not everything is going to be retail and more often than not the choices of what's retail and what's TWE are pretty justified.
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08-05-2015, 05:14 PM | #23 |
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I'm not going to mince words here.
While there's really no new parts on this figure and yes the form's not going to do that much (gotta save the screentime for Type Special) but overall it does look good for what it is and what it's meant to be. If I had the money to spare I'd so buy this. Plus why let the Mashin Chaser suit collect dust when it's just such a neat design? I have no complaints here. |
08-05-2015, 10:33 PM | #24 |
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I don't mind the web exclusive prices for the most part, but Super Dead Heat is a bit perplexing because it's actually 756 yen more than previous two TWE figuarts I've ordered and almost 1300 more than Shin Zangetsu. I didn't mind that Drive didn't come with as much as Gaim did, but this just seems like a rather large price jump for getting a lot less.
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At face value exclusives don't cost that much more than the retail figures - like 1000-1500 yen at the most (although with prices seemingly having gone up a bit recently on both sides, the difference might start getting a bit wider, idk).
People seem to forget that the prices they pay on Amiami etc. are considerably lower than the prices Bandai set. Example, Amiami might be charging 3140 yen for Mach but his RRP according to the Tamashii website is 4320 yen. So Bandai aren't suddenly ripping you off with exclusives, the stores you buy from are the ones making the price gap more noticeable. As for middleman fees and the like, again Bandai can hardly be blamed for that - not everything is going to be retail and more often than not the choices of what's retail and what's TWE are pretty justified.
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08-05-2015, 11:16 PM | #25 |
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Nothing will ever be as disappointing than when I first opened Type Speed and found 4 hands looking at me and nothing else.
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08-06-2015, 01:08 AM | #26 |
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Look I don't know what other figure companies do and honestly I don't care. These figures are expensive enough as is and I don't need a stand packed in with everything. If the characters can or do levitate I appreciate a stand so I can display them in that pose, Kamen Riders don't need to fly most of the time so I don't need stands for my display. If I want to do action poses for pics or something, the stands are available everywhere for 5-10 bucks in different shapes and forms so I got one. Or I just use one that was included with a different figure. Now you ask “If they are 5-10 bucks why not just include them with the figures and raise the price accordingly?”. I don't know, because that's how it turned out. They make more expensive and decorative stands which obviously can't be sold with the figures so they have their own market for stands and just choose to include the smaller ones from time to time if it's necessary. I can see where you're coming from with this (literally), but I don't require and onslaught of stands which I'll never use. Now, with this figure they could have included all the hands from Mashine Chaser (don't know how many there are), but after Drive this isn’t bothering me. Maybe just because I don't even bother about the figure itself and won't buy it anyways, but for a movie-exclusive form it's more understandable than for the main character of the show. Also I don't know about the price, if he really is that expensive than yeah that sucks. |
08-06-2015, 01:15 AM | #27 |
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I don't mind the web exclusive prices for the most part, but Super Dead Heat is a bit perplexing because it's actually 756 yen more than previous two TWE figuarts I've ordered and almost 1300 more than Shin Zangetsu. I didn't mind that Drive didn't come with as much as Gaim did, but this just seems like a rather large price jump for getting a lot less.
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08-06-2015, 02:21 AM | #28 |
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I'd also imagine they had a lot of faith in the Ryuki line and were willing to splurge on it a bit, considering this show had 13 Riders, 2 Psuedo-Riders, a non-canon Rider from Decade and two Super forms, and all of them were eventually released in the line, whereas we still have gaps missing from other Rider shows with much smaller casts.
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08-06-2015, 04:53 AM | #29 |
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Maybe it's because I'm more used to figmas and suff, but personally I still find it difficult to wrap my head around how Bandai is able to get away with releasing figures with only like two extra pairs of hands. I personally find that kind of stuff to just be sort of inexcusably cheap, and very hard to just say it's exactly as it should be. Even just a few more hands would go a long way in making this feel like a better release.
On the other hand, I'm still completely baffled by the fact that such a high-end line like S.H Figuarts doesn't have stands included with every figure either. Especially when I consider that the flying kick is the most Rider-like action there is, and one you simply cannot replicate with a figure without a stand...It's really confusing to me. But I'm new to this, so probably my opinion doesn't mean much in these cases. This being a webshop exclusive that likely isn't going to appeal to anyone besides really hardcore Drive fans, they probably just didn't think anything else was needed. Exclusives are limited releases for a reason and making unique effect parts or whatever for them wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. Including basic stands with everything might be nice, but I'm sure we'd just be blaming the rising prices of figures on that. |
08-06-2015, 09:51 AM | #30 |
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Eh. Mashin Chaser was 4860 yen retail and this thing is 5940. Basically just about a 1000 yen markup for being an exclusive. Not that iffy to me.
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