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07-07-2013, 03:13 PM | #5531 |
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Also design and quality control are things that have tangible significance. If a line contains a bunch of figures with widespread quality control and design isues it's not really ''the new standard of action figures.'' |
07-07-2013, 03:17 PM | #5532 |
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Green ranger not being able to play the Dragon Dagger properly isn't really opinion.
Also design and quality control are things that have tangible significance. If a line contains a bunch of figures with widespread quality control and design isues it's not really ''the new standard of action figures.''
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07-07-2013, 03:18 PM | #5533 |
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Green ranger not being able to play the Dragon Dagger properly isn't really opinion.
Also design and quality control are things that have tangible significance. If a line contains a bunch of figures with widespread quality control and design isues it's not really ''the new standard of action figures.''
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07-07-2013, 03:20 PM | #5534 |
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It doesn't matter where the costs come from, that is the cost that goes to us. The same stuff happens to all on shelf toys as well but that is already included in the price at the start. So yes, the toy itself may be 15 quid or whatever but you can't subtract all the postage and middleman fees or whatever or you may as well say the figure on the store shelf is fifty p as you aren't including the profit the store needs and VAT and what have you.
And for the record - last month I bought Super Akiba Red, Kamen Rider Beast and Dragonranger from Amiami. The total cost including shipping? £55. So yeah. Your numbers are extremely exaggerated.
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07-07-2013, 03:26 PM | #5535 |
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Of course I can, because you're acting like a Figuart should be a £40 quality toy when they retail for half that price. Again you CHOOSE to import figures from Japan, so can't hold shipping and middleman fees against them. Figuarts aren't made for foreign collectors to import, they're made for Japanese collectors to pick up from Hobby shop shelves just as we buy toys from supermarkets or toy shops.
And for the record - last month I bought Super Akiba Red, Kamen Rider Beast and Dragonranger from Amiami. The total cost including shipping? £55. So yeah. Your numbers are extremely exaggerated. And so in terms of quantity of accessories the Figuarts win out but people acting like they are the cream of the crop quality wise at their price range are kidding themselves.
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07-07-2013, 03:27 PM | #5536 |
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SH Figuarts for me has personally been fantastic, but it's far from a perfect toyline. Regrettably, a line as good as this one is very easy to talk up and therefore set expectations beyond what is reasonable for a mass-produced action figure line at its price point. Unfortunately, personal bias on either side is far too easy to allow to dominate a conversation.
A classic example is my original Ultra-Act Ultraman figure, the first release in the line. People expected as great or better than Figuarts quality from it, with the advantage of being slightly larger. Turns out, Bandai didn't use the same construction as in Figuarts (to this day I'm not sure why), and while Ultraman had a lot of joints, his construction and fit of those parts was terrible, leading to rampant floppiness and parts leprosy. And yet, mine was fine. Nothing was loose, nothing fell apart with ease, he could pose and balance as well as your typical Figuarts... the fact that my Ultraman was good and no one else's seemed to be became a running joke. That didn't mean that I used my personal experience of the line to claim that it was all user error or craziness on the part of other owners, nor did anyone come to me claiming I was full of shit because I could hold my figure, shake it in my hand, and no limbs would fall off. The truth is usually somewhere between the extremes of vocal opinion on the internet, and it takes a careful analysis and experiences to separate hype and hate from legitimate criticism, and to recognize that flukes happen too - sometimes people get a bum figure, and in the cases of outright garbage, sometimes someone gets lucky with a figure that works as fully intended. Oh, and not to antagonize the point, I know nothing about the NECA Evil Dead line in particular, but the reputation NECA has for toys with bad, stuck joints and even the odd case of breaking right out of the package, a case of Ash breaking apart would not surprise me. Bonus points if it's a hand.
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07-07-2013, 03:34 PM | #5537 |
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Even if you play it that way, Figuarts are a 15 quid range, so are the Neca Evil Dead figures. Now the Neca Evil Dead figures granted don't have swappable hands or the extreme articulation, they are however much sturdier and come with a wide range of accessories. No one complains about Henrietta's ankles, Ash's arm doesn't fall down under its own weight, Evil Ash doesn't literally break apart in the middle and have all his accessories fall off. Even Marvel Legends which provided a similar sort of articulation range (but not the accessories) were a much better made product overall since they provided a detailed likeness like figuarts, extreme human movement like figuarts but were made to actually be played with.
And so in terms of quantity of accessories the Figuarts win out but people acting like they are the cream of the crop quality wise at their price range are kidding themselves. Not all Figuarts are perfect, but out of the 25-30 I own the only I feel wasn't worth the price I paid for him is TaToBa, which while wasn't brilliantly received many people didn't seem to have the same problems with when I expressed hatred for mine when it arrived. On the flipside, Flame Style is hands down the best Rider figuart I own (so that's out of Ouja, CycloneJoker, TaToBa, Fourze, Meteor and Wizard...haven't opened Beast yet). Aside from the driver, mine doesn't have any of the falling apart issues that you mentioned with yours. Same goes for my Deka Blue.
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07-07-2013, 03:49 PM | #5538 |
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Green ranger not being able to play the Dragon Dagger properly isn't really opinion.
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I can't comment on NECA figures but my brother has a crapload of Marvel Legends (both Hasbro and Toybiz) and only a handful of them come close to any Figuarts I have. The articulation isn't as good and neither is the finish.
Not all Figuarts are perfect, but out of the 25-30 I own the only I feel wasn't worth the price I paid for him is TaToBa, which while wasn't brilliantly received many people didn't seem to have the same problems with when I expressed hatred for mine when it arrived. On the flipside, Flame Style is hands down the best Rider figuart I own (so that's out of Ouja, CycloneJoker, TaToBa, Fourze, Meteor and Wizard...haven't opened Beast yet). Aside from the driver, mine doesn't have any of the falling apart issues that you mentioned with yours. Same goes for my Deka Blue. A lot of people like to compare them with SIC. I come across way more issues on those than I do with figuarts. They're not so much issues as all the part swapping gimmicks result in a figure that likes to fall apart. They're still amazing, but not "solid" like figuarts.
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07-07-2013, 06:08 PM | #5539 |
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07-07-2013, 08:14 PM | #5540 |
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I've played with my Dragonranger a lot and I have tried very hard to get into that exact pose, but I've found it impossible for a variety of reasons. 1. No stability in the hands for holding the Zyusouken. The right hand does not properly grip the blade's handle and the left hand offers no support. 2. Not enough articulation in right and left arms to move to that position, center of the figure with the Zyusouken's mouthpiece up to his mouth, while still keep everything else on the figure in the right position. 3. He cannot hold the Zyusouken horizontally with that combination of hands. After a lot of effort, here's the best pose you can get him in playing the Zyusouken with both hands. It is very similar to the one on the box, because its horizontal and up to his mouth and relatively center to his body, but I had to just use the weapon-holding left hand, rather then the hand used on the box: The Gokaiger and Akibaranger ones are pretty damn perfect. The only problem I have with the Akibaranger ones is that the Season One versions had very few accessories, but the Season Two versions have a very fair amount. Last edited by Starscream Gaga; 07-07-2013 at 08:22 PM.. |
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