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06-05-2022, 11:07 AM | #11 |
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This was... fine. I think in terms of dialogue there were some nice highlights. The Karizakis continue to be a surprisingly well handled pair of characters and I really enjoyed both of them this time around. I think the bit with Hiromi acknowledging that he was also too recklessly righteous in the past was a great moment too. I like the concept of a magnetism final form! On the other hand, this episode also has plenty of Revice's typical issues. Ikki just barging into the surgery and smashing things was... strange. I don't really see how that saved his dad but sure. Hikaru continues to be frankly just an annoying character. Ultimate Revice itself is... not doing it for me. It's a combination of factors, the fact that it didn't feel very distinct outside of being really strong, the color schemes of Revi and Vice being too similar makes them hard to tell apart in the chaos of the battle, and honestly it just looks tacky (and not in the good way Thunder Gale looks). I think a lot of people, myself included, are at a point where frustrations about this show are beginning to boil over since it is obvious there is only so much they can do to expand on things this late in the game and so many issues are longstanding. It really isn't a BAD show, but its not shaping up to be something I'll want to revisit any time soon.
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06-05-2022, 11:47 AM | #12 |
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Revice continues to be a frustratingly shallow and disappointing show for me with this episode.
I like the design of the form, but the way they got there is just a waste of a perfectly good concept. The idea of Goerge and his dad repairing their relationship would be fine if the show allocated more time to them growing past their issues, but that has been such an afterthought that the whole thing falls utterly flat. I like the idea of the dad being willing to sacrifice his life for his children and dooming them to this fight, but his lack of presence beyond a gag character in the show before and just not existing after the reveal makes it feel hollow without the Vail special, and even then, it undercuts itself by kinda suggesting that this version of the character is effectively gone and he has been more pretending to be more like it. As for Ikki, I seriously question what his actions achieved in the end, I find it questionable to assume that breaking the glass case immediately stops his father's pain, but I can look past it. I however don't like the implication that he once more took a decision that wasn't his to make and took it from someone else. If your father chose to bet his life on this, you got no right to change that! I get he is a busy body and that, that can be good, but once you are actively undermining what someone else wants you cross over into egoist, my way or the highway, type. This all just worked out because the story bends over backward so the stamp still functions. All in all, a very disappointing episode with a surprisingly dull fight to boot, the one thing Revice usually excels.
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06-05-2022, 12:23 PM | #13 |
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Best episode this show had since the Kamen Rider Vail debut. Finally some freaking things happening again, Jesus. And would you know it, as soon as dad is back, as soon as the bath house gang is back together, this show is fun again.
It's almost like this was something they did exactly right from the very start so ripping it apart for 13 episodes was a bad idea. As for the "final form", I like the magnetic powers, very well done. Plus, the way Revi & Vice put on the Giffard Rex helmets is so cool. I hope the show finally gets a move on again. But then again - Daiji. This character is so annoying, I always hated him, and I can't stand seeing him acting like a pouting toddler right now. Oh by the way, might be a coincidence, but Vice said both "Nipponichi!" and "Zenryoku Zenkai!" in the same episode. Since the VA apparently improvises a lot of dialogue, I wonder if this was recorded around the time DonBrothers hit the scene. Nah, it's more likely to be coincidental, but still fun. |
06-05-2022, 01:24 PM | #14 |
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I like the concept of "Powered armor" of Ultimate Revi and Vice its like when ironman using Hulkbuster.. and i also like Final form that doesn't have all power because its usually become P2W button
However what make it Lacking is the story itself.. and this form feel not needed at all.. at the end of the day all of this form do is just defeat mooks which i think Thundergale still capable of... the supposed strong Hellgifterian doesn't even show off his abilty first before being defeated so its just another MoTW.. i think Volcano still have stronger debut because defeat Julio which is Major character, this debut has nothing... even weaker debut like Thundergale have orteca to defeat Last edited by nitraion; 06-05-2022 at 01:35 PM.. |
06-05-2022, 02:28 PM | #15 |
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Gotta agree that it was a bit of an underwhelming final form debut, just beating up some mooks and an upgraded MOTW. Love the suits and their fighting style though, aside from the out of nowhere Gatakiriba attack. Revice's character writing is still very strong though, aside from Hikaru who I still have no clue what his characters point is
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06-05-2022, 04:35 PM | #16 |
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In Hikaru's case, it seems that his agency at some point asked Toei to give the character more attention. And apparently, there was no time left for some character development, so he got the belt and "banter" over Hana, I guess.
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06-05-2022, 05:12 PM | #17 |
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For what it's worth, according to the show's own chief producer, their goal with Hikaru is specifically not to focus on the process of how he became a Kamen Rider, but instead how becoming a Kamen Rider causes a change in his life, which, you know, put that way, makes him sound like a unique and compelling presence who adds a different flavor to the show. It's all in how much he lives up to that goal by the end, I suppose.
Anyways, I thought this was a solid episode. There were some really smart writing decisions on a conceptual level, like tying to the final form's debut to the theme of family, both through Genta and through Masumi and George, and Shibasaki's usual talent for the effects got to shine through here, especially when Revi and Vice go chasing after that new Stamp. There are a lot of shots in this one that impressed me with how much they don't feel like something I see in Rider all the time. I also appreciate Ultimate Revice's design a lot more already after reading from that same page I just linked that the decision to have Vice look nearly identical to Revi was a conscious effort to portray how Ikki's relationship with him has grown so far beyond the idea of Ikki being good and Vice being his amoral foil. They look the same because they're equal, essentially, and again, it's like when you put it that way, suddenly it sounds way more appealing. My initial impression of those suits was dominated by the thought that Vice just looked like Revi, but looking at it through this lens, it makes sense that Vice finally gets to just look like the superhero now, instead of some weird monster in a cheap costume, like he started out, or a dark reflection of that hero, like Jack Revice.
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06-05-2022, 05:17 PM | #18 |
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*Please* dont start with that, that was only a theory by JPN fans....I dont want it to become one of those toku rumors that get passed around so much ppl start touting it as fact. No matter how much you're not into Hikaru, it shouldnt boil over into spreading nasty rumors about the actor himself and how *he* doesnt deserve the role...he's just a kid after all.
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06-05-2022, 05:49 PM | #19 |
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For what it's worth, according to the show's own chief producer, their goal with Hikaru is specifically not to focus on the process of how he became a Kamen Rider, but instead how becoming a Kamen Rider causes a change in his life, which, you know, put that way, makes him sound like a unique and compelling presence who adds a different flavor to the show. It's all in how much he lives up to that goal by the end, I suppose.
He went from guy who followed Sakura, to now some kind of cocky badass? He feels like a baby who cried for his bottle, and once he got it, now he's acting as if he's actually cool. I get what they're trying to go for, but they fumbled the ball on Hikaru by forgetting to make him a character in the first place.
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06-06-2022, 01:00 AM | #20 |
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Yes, but who is to blame? After all, it`s not that he was introduced in the last third of the show, he is on the screen from the first episodes. If desired, at least a little character could be added to him.
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