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02-28-2021, 12:59 PM | #241 |
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Otherwise, yeah, Ozaki and Miura is still being horndogs and off-putting, when comic relief goes too far, but just asking, as for before, you said that people like Tetsuo also deserved a little grace, but, are you not living up to that word if the character is not entertaining or for certain flaws if those are irritating (even if the flaw is better than certain worse character's flaw)?
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02-28-2021, 09:46 PM | #242 |
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KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 10 - "HANA AND THE STORMY SINGULARITY POINT”
Kintaros! Every story should be about Kintaros from now on! I mean, star of the show for this one, am I right? Easily the best Debut story we've had so far for the Imagin. There's a ton of amazing comedy in this episode (Kintaros finding out from some kids that he actually never learned karate! Hana reminding him that he's supposed to destroy time because he forgot!), but the more surprisingly effective part is the pathos. I was so busy looking at how the Ryotaro/Honjou story had parallels, and then this episode shows us that it's all about how similar Hana and Kintaros are. Hana's someone who should absolutely hate all Imagin. They destroyed her home, and left her all alone. She's a singularity point now, someone who's basically Survivor's Guilt in the shape of a woman. But then there's Kintaros, an Imagin who just wants to make some struggling athlete feel better. He doesn't care about destroying time; he just wants to help. And that's something Hana can relate to. She isn't the hero of the story, but she can protect that hero. Kintaros isn't ever going to be more than someone who could make someone else's dream come true. And they're both adrift. Neither of them has a home, a people. They just want to help. There's a real sadness to this one, something that lets it do a totally predictable Kintaros Is Completely Going To Die You Guys fake-out and not have me mind. Hana's fury at a good Imagin choosing to die, as well as at her own sadness at an Imagin dying, is some choice Hana anger. She's so unbelievably pissed at this stupid imagination monster from the end of time making her see him as heroic, and apoplectic over how that is screwing with her worldview. She punches a disintegrating monster that she likes directly in his disintegrating face! Because it's too sad! It's a scene that's just about how Hana has forged a connection she absolutely does not want with this heroic monster, and it's pretty effective at being simultaneously hilarious, heartbreaking, and sweet. It is still an incredibly sweet episode, of course. Kintaros is adorably dedicated to making Honjou's life better, whether that means incorrectly studying karate or sacrificing himself in the past. He's purely heroic in a way that Momo and Ura definitely are not. The other two Imagin, they'll grudgingly accept that saving Kintaros is the right thing to do, but they'd never suggest it. But Kintaros, he's living for Houjou in a way that they don't for Ryotaro. Kintaros cares, and that's what separates him from the other Imagin. It's very easy to care for him in return. THE BAGGAGE CAR -Really liked how the show utilized Momo and Ura in the Rhino Imagin investigation. It not only kept this episode from feeling repetitive (since it doesn't really have any Ryotaro/Hana scenes this time), but it's just nice to see them both using their horrible personalities in productive ways. Also, so... does Ura just assume he's supposed to be flirting with everyone he meets? Because I'm wondering what the middle of that Kikuchi interrogation looked like that led to Kikuchi realizing how much Honjou meant to him... -There's some neat thematic stuff in this one about how sometimes enemies can really just be rivals, and how rivalries can be beneficial, but I couldn't quite get it to line up with Hana/Kintaros parts enough to be happy with it. But it's there! -Also there: Urataros is at the end of the opening credits! He's dancing in half of the squares. He is... not as good a dancer as Momotaros. We'll see what those squares look like in another few episodes! -Love Axe Form, by the way. The suit itself is a little nondescript (as Den-O Forms go), but that mask is iconic. He's an axe guy! There's an axe on his face! It does what it says on the tin! -And I'm assuming this was the Banana New Shoes episode, so anyone who wants to tell that story? The stage is yours.
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03-01-2021, 12:35 AM | #243 |
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Now I would like to personally apologize again last time for my hiccup of a mistake but here it is:
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Kintaros is based off the Japanese folktale Kintaro. Kintaro is in general a VERY strong child, almost a hybrid of Hercules and Paul Bunyan. His notable iconography is the red bib with the kanji 金 written on it. He was known to be raised by a yokai, kick oni ass, wrestle wild bears, befriend animals, and carries an axe. Axe Form's notable reference to Kintaro is his den-kamen(face mask of the Den-O forms) resembling the 金 kanji, which primarily means gold(can also mean metal or money depending on context), and an axe. Keep in mind however his imagin form is not Ryotaro's but Honjo's creation, and his name was given after he was conceptualizes by Honjo. Kintaros's color scheme is semi-gloss black and candy gold with his visor being champagne gold.
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03-01-2021, 12:44 AM | #244 |
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Kintaros is based off the Japanese folktale Kintaro. Kintaro is in general a VERY strong child, almost a hybrid of Hercules and Paul Bunyan. His notable iconography is the red bib with the kanji 金 written on it. He was known to be raised by a yokai, kick oni ass, wrestle wild bears, befriend animals, and carries an axe. Axe Form's notable reference to Kintaro is his den-kamen(face mask of the Den-O forms) resembling the 金 kanji, which primarily means gold(can also mean metal or money depending on context), and an axe. Keep in mind however his imagin form is not Ryotaro's but Honjo's creation, and his name was given after he was conceptualizes by Honjo. Kintaros's color scheme is semi-gloss black and candy gold with his visor being champagne gold.
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03-01-2021, 02:37 AM | #245 |
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Like I said last time, I really like this arc. Kintaros is just such a good dude and I love how he just wants to help his contract holder complete that one final karate match. I also like that this time Ryotaro lets the Imagin partner up with him knowingly; it's not an act of desperation or someone hijacking his body while he's asleep. Ryotaro actually makes the sacrifice of taking on another partner because he respects Kintaros and doesn't want him to die.
The stuff with Hana is pretty good, too. Kintaros shows her that not all Imagin are bad and she legitimately comes to respect him, but she can't quite commit to not still hating him. This helps flesh out why she's always so violent towards the others, even when they're being helpful (even if Momotaros and Urataros are usually about as helpful as a parachute in a lifeboat). Quote:
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03-01-2021, 03:35 AM | #246 |
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And this episode marks the appearance of the third variant of DenLiner, known as Rekkou. Like Gouka and Isurugi, it doesn’t mean anything individually. But recently I learned that if you put the appropriate kanji together, it becomes Denkosekka (Lightning Speed).
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03-01-2021, 12:54 PM | #247 |
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The stuff with Hana is pretty good, too. Kintaros shows her that not all Imagin are bad and she legitimately comes to respect him, but she can't quite commit to not still hating him. This helps flesh out why she's always so violent towards the others, even when they're being helpful (even if Momotaros and Urataros are usually about as helpful as a parachute in a lifeboat).
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03-01-2021, 03:13 PM | #248 |
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I think it's how miserable Tetsuo seemed at the end of that story? It's easy to see his behavior as rooted in loss, and so it's easy to want to see him get closure. The Airimirers, they're just horrible? In obviously disgusting ways? There's nothing about Ozaki or Miura where I can see a sympathetic character inside of them, and that's not even what I was saying about a guy who beat up Ryotaro.
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THE BAGGAGE CAR
-Really liked how the show utilized Momo and Ura in the Rhino Imagin investigation. It not only kept this episode from feeling repetitive (since it doesn’t really have any Ryotaro/Hana scenes this time), but it’s just nice to see them both using their horrible personalities in productive ways. Also, so… does Ura just assume he’s supposed to be flirting with everyone he meets? Because I’m wondering what the middle of that Kikuchi interrogation looked like that led to Kikuchi realizing how much Honjou meant to him… The axe on his face should be functional in fights other than just a decorative.
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03-01-2021, 07:22 PM | #249 |
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Hana's burning hatred for Imagin can potentially screw up this time, losing someone like Kintaros or, likely breaking things up for reminding that Imagins should destroy time, creating self-fulfilling prophecy. And probably if that happen, she'd act self-righteously as Imagins being always that way, she had tsundere-ish reaction to Kintaros dying, but that also can come from refusing to accept the existence of righteous Imagin.
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I think the training we're seeing is just physical therapy. Houjou still had whatever mystery ailment he had in the original timeline, but now Kikuchi is helping him get better so they can finish their match. It's an episode that hits on some points about letting a rival help you improve as a person (like with Hana and Kintaros), so that's just the button to that storyline.
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03-01-2021, 08:12 PM | #250 |
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I wish I had more to say about these episodes, as I remember them being quite good on a rewatch while also vaguely recalling getting weirdly burned out on Den-O watching them the first time, either of which would give me fun things to talk about if I could only remember those pesky details.
But I can definitely chime in just to add on that, yeah, Kintaros is pretty great. When you have a big ensemble of quirky, morally flawed characters, I often gravitate towards the obligatory decent normal-ish one (see Kenzaki in Blade for reference), and while it's to the credit of Den-O's strong characterization that Kintaros isn't quite my favorite, he's an extremely welcome presence for the cast who only grows on me more and more with time. Axe Form itself is a somewhat similar story, where I consider it my least favorite of Den-O's main forms, and yet the more I think about it, the more I realize it might secretly be my favorite? I mean, it is a REAL tough call with designs this good, but Axe Form has a sort of knight in shining armor vibe going on with the visor and the gold that makes it... I'm still not quite sure how to put it. It just looks super stalwart, I guess, and that means it's a perfect expression of what I love so much about Den-O's forms, which is that each of them actively feels like a different character, rather than a different suit of armor for one guy. Extra impressive considering it's just backwards Sword Form, too!
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