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04-19-2017, 11:13 PM | #21 |
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*raises finger in protest, shakes head and straps on Zeonizers*
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04-20-2017, 02:10 PM | #22 |
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In Your neck of the woods, no one remembers Zeo.
My pond has people who go on and on about Zeo. And Time Force. And hating on Turbo. It's remembered, even if not fondly. And I checked with none geeks, casual viewers. They know of Time Force and Zeo. Hell, Zeo moreso because it had Tommy. Never forget the effect Tommy has. |
04-20-2017, 03:00 PM | #23 |
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You don't make any sense. Your argument to stop with the MMPR stories seems to be that nostalgia won't keep it afloat and your argument for other seasons getting books is people are just as nostalgic for later seasons. Why is nostalgia a good thing when it comes to seasons you and the people around you like but not for the MMPR fans?
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04-20-2017, 03:50 PM | #24 |
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You don't make any sense. Your argument to stop with the MMPR stories seems to be that nostalgia won't keep it afloat and your argument for other seasons getting books is people are just as nostalgic for later seasons. Why is nostalgia a good thing when it comes to seasons you and the people around you like but not for the MMPR fans?
My issue is that they already have the main series, the Kimberly spin-off, and the crossover with the Justice League going on. And we just got a modern day reboot of MMPR in the movie. So why are we getting another “Hey, want to see the early Power Rangers?” story if most people picking up the comic have just come off of seeing the movie, and the comic team is nothing like the guys they just saw? I’m not saying cancel Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, I love what they’re doing. I’m not saying don’t give Kimberly a side story/gaiden, nor am I against the Justice League crossover. I am just saying that “Hey, you guys have other fans! And you already gave the OG ground 3 whole comic series to choose from. How about giving some scraps to us other kids at the table, huh?” My argument is that they’re already writing a story that is mostly unrecognizable, or off formula to what MMPR is, that most readers I’ve come across who go into something simply for nostalgia, especially Power Rangers’ fair weather fans, would be turned off by it. The rangers haven’t had a solid win besides setting back that Black Dragon Zord. Rita is so competent she takes out the Command Center seasons before happens in the show, and hijacks Alpha to use against the rangers. Tommy gets a sneak peek at his new form though a dystopian universe ruled by his evil alternate self, which if nothing else spoils his new tiger form for him (in-universe spoilers, how horrible). And on a serious note, the Green Ranger has come off less badass in this, and more of a liability because of mentally compromised state at first, and just his lack of action due to power coin issues. These are not bad things, nor do I dislike them…too much. I do enjoy the comic, and want to see where they’re taking this. But that’s me, and I’ve seen and dealt with people who were all hyped up for the Power Rangers movie. They’re the same ones who go see the Spider-man movies, and the other superhero movies. They don’t fucking care about the comics. Not that it’s exactly the same, as Marvel stuff are comics first, live-action second, while the Rangers are the other way around. But people like their formulas, and this comic says “fuck that” to them. Why are new readers or movie fans going to stick around, when Tommy hasn’t morphed for the past few issues, and the Rangers have barely gotten in a win, rather keeping Rita at bay? From the people I’ve met, and I’ve moved a lot so personality wise these are many, varied people, the way Tommy is being portrayed will have turned off quite a few readers. I know how people on this forum tend to feel about JDF and Tommy, but he is an icon of this series, and his draw/loss against Scorpina, him being played by Rita and Black Dragon, and now him being stranded on Drakkon’s world and not using his martial arts to take out at least a few Ranger Sentries, like how he would in the show, that would turn off quite a few people. Me, I’m chill with it. But acting like the same people who are reading simply for nostalgia would be accepting of all these changes and stay around is a bit of reach. Let’s compare it to other companies with “sharing the spotlight” problems. The Force Awakens did well by taking half of A New Hope’s plot, and despite bitching about how lazy that was it did succeed. This does the opposite. And while I enjoy it for its originality, I would like it if some of that was spread about. Because the nostalgia crowd has proven to be less forgiving to things that don’t suit them. DC likes to overexpose Batman, but we still get a Superman, Wonder Woman, or Green Lantern adaptation every once in a while. Marvel learnt how to sell characters others thought of as C-list heroes and make it work. Fucking Michael Bay’s Transformers had the Dinobots, for better or worse. And Hasbaro is working IDW as hard as they can to establish their own little comic verse, with mixed results but it’s still going regardless. If they only sell MMPR, eventually their number of readers will dwindle to an unattractive small number, as people move one from the MMPR hype. Look at Pokemon Go, sure it still has people playing, but it took forever for them to get to the Johto Pokemon, and all the hype they had going for it died down partially because of their limited content. So no, I’m not saying stop with the MMPR stories, I’m saying why is it only MMPR stories, I3ra5s Beetle. It’s a comic book company, they can make multiple series at the same time. Why are you acting like only one group in a fandom can have their nostalgia fulfilled while everyone else has to sit back and nod? How does it rob MMPR fans of their nostalgia if Lightspeed Rescue and Turbo fans get a interquel comic as well? When I said “jump to Zeo”, I meant like how the Pink Ranger comic is basically during Season 3, so just have a comic that’s set in the middle of Zeo, not “Oh fuck this Lord Drakkon story, let’s skip ahead and just say ‘they beat him.’”
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04-20-2017, 04:30 PM | #25 |
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You do realize I was calling you out on being a hypocrite about the nostalgia thing right? I didn't say your personal feelings towards the issue were right or wrong. Your reasoning didn't make sense and was frankly unneeded. We all understand, different people like different things and would like to see other seasons. I would too but I'm not going to sit here and act like I need to justify my feelings or actively assert them onto other people. *wall of text* You really need to stop speaking for other people. Why would people want to see more MMPR? Because they like it. Just like you and I would like to see other seasons. It'll happen man, give it time. |
04-20-2017, 06:11 PM | #26 |
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You do realize I was calling you out on being a hypocrite about the nostalgia thing right? I didn't say your personal feelings towards the issue were right or wrong. Your reasoning didn't make sense and was frankly unneeded. We all understand, different people like different things and would like to see other seasons. I would too but I'm not going to sit here and act like I need to justify my feelings or actively assert them onto other people.
*wall of text* You really need to stop speaking for other people. Why would people want to see more MMPR? Because they like it. Just like you and I would like to see other seasons. It'll happen man, give it time. How was I being a hypocrite? What I've been saying is little more than "So now there's 4 MMPR comics. Boom! has the licence to make PR comics, and they're only doing stuff within MMPR. Why can't it be 3 MMPR comics and at least 1 other season?" Why is my reasoning "unneeded"? What exactly did I do? You accuse me of speaking for other people, which is what everyone on this thread is doing when they bring up how people do or don't remember Zeo, or talk about Lost Galaxy. Did I tell MnemonicSyntax "I don't care what your wife has to say?" No, I just brought up what people around me have felt or said about PR, and didn't push or force my view on them. They claimed no one remember Zeo. I experienced the opposite. No fight, just showing that our "ponds" contain different "fish".
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04-20-2017, 06:39 PM | #27 |
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How was I being a hypocrite? What I've been saying is little more than "So now there's 4 MMPR comics. Boom! has the licence to make PR comics, and they're only doing stuff within MMPR. Why can't it be 3 MMPR comics and at least 1 other season?" Why is my reasoning "unneeded"? What exactly did I do? You accuse me of speaking for other people, which is what everyone on this thread is doing when they bring up how people do or don't remember Zeo, or talk about Lost Galaxy. Did I tell MnemonicSyntax "I don't care what your wife has to say?" No, I just brought up what people around me have felt or said about PR, and didn't push or force my view on them. They claimed no one remember Zeo. I experienced the opposite. No fight, just showing that our "ponds" contain different "fish". You're using your personal experience to say what a fandom really wants and what "casuals" feel about MMPR ongoing. You're using that personal experience to say "I'm right it should be this way". You didn't offer up your experience for others to come to a conclusion on their own you just wanted them to know you're right. What I'm saying now is calm the down, it will happen eventually. Hey how about this, instead of assuming what people want why not ask them? Let's make a thread about what we want to see in the BOOM universe. We could be constructive and happy instead of pissed off because MMPR is "overhyped". |
04-20-2017, 06:52 PM | #28 |
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Did you or did you not say you want past seasons because you and others like those seasons? Otherwise known as being nostalgiac for something. And did you not assert that BOOM should stop chasing nostalgia because it will "run the well dry.."? All you've said is "I like other seasons more so gimme." It's not any different than a "casual" screaming for more MMPR. Neither are bad but they aren't an argument either.
You're using your personal experience to say what a fandom really wants and what "casuals" feel about MMPR ongoing. You're using that personal experience to say "I'm right it should be this way". You didn't offer up your experience for others to come to a conclusion on their own you just wanted them to know you're right. What I'm saying now is calm the down, it will happen eventually. Hey how about this, instead of assuming what people want why not ask them? Let's make a thread about what we want to see in the BOOM universe. We could be constructive and happy instead of pissed off because MMPR is "overhyped". And quit changing what I say to fit your message. It's not I like other seasons more, gimme. It's "I like Power Rangers, why are you limiting it?" You have no proof it will happen, so talking down to me and telling me to calm down will do what exactly? By all means, make the thread. Since whenever I say something, I'm telling others to "shut up and listen to me".
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04-20-2017, 07:05 PM | #29 |
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They would run the well dry by ONLY focusing MMPR. That's at best 3 seasons of material to play with (4 if you count Aliens). Less material, less to work with.
And quit changing what I say to fit your message. It's not I like other seasons more, gimme. It's "I like Power Rangers, why are you limiting it?" You have no proof it will happen, so talking down to me and telling me to calm down will do what exactly? By all means, make the thread. Since whenever I say something, I'm telling others to "shut up and listen to me". It's two ongoings with the first barely on its 17th issue. Yeah we really are stuck in a rut. Stop acting like a victim because I called you out on your bad attitude and hypocrisy. |
04-20-2017, 07:37 PM | #30 |
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You're claiming I'm saying something that I don't actually believe. I say "I want more than just MMPR, would you kindly?" I mean that. You seem to hear "fuck people who like MMPR, and fuck MMPR. Toss that aside and give me all the other seasons". I'm not saying that. So what hypocrisy is it that you're seeing? That I feel the need to vent a bit, on a forum site that has people venting up the walls about Decade, Ghost, or Kuuga? You go on about not justifying your feelings or asserting them onto others, but all you've done since posting on here is take issue with what I'm saying and telling me to feel as you say and present my opinions in a way you prefer. The only hypocrite here is you. I don't need to have proof, you're the one make the claim that they will. We've seen no evidence of their interest in doing that so far, so assuming that and telling others it will happen eventually puts it on you. I want it, you feel it's inevitable. We have no evidence of that. And as for "bad attitude"... If MnemonicSyntax didn't like what I said, I apologize. What I said I didn't see as aggresive, but that's not for me to say. If I came off harshly, that was not my intent. But you go on and saying I don't make any sense and that I'm a hypocrite, and saying it's a bad attitude to take issue with that. The only one making things personal here, is again you. I just came here to discuss Power Rangers. I'm not your "victim".
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