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05-27-2020, 06:42 PM | #15901 |
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I felt the 2010s were a stronger decade, too. The 2000s were littered with far too much melodrama triggered though poor communication or just plot contrivance, I felt.
But more power to you if you feel the 2000s were stronger. I'm not here to tell you otherwise Considering both decades have a series I just have no drive to watch (Faiz and Zi-O), they both have their ups and downs. Calling Blade my all time fav and OOO the 2nd best made me start to wonder where I'd rank all the series I've seen so far, and it's not as cut and dry as I assumed...Hm... Anyway, on to my OOO rewatch. I'm now on to episode 10. OOO has a fairly solid start. While they've been there before, Eiji and Ankh have only just now begun to call the cafe their home. Hina also only begrudgingly accepts Ankh solely to keep her brother alive. I like that everyone isn't just grouping together from the start, and things are still rather tense. We've also gotten a taste of an aspect I really loved the first time I saw the show. Rotating powers. As they gain medals, an event would occur that would also cause them to lose a few. So sometimes a super powered combo that would be nice in a situation is suddenly unavailable (*Cough*GataKiriBa*CoughCough*). It keeps things fresh since they have to rely on what they have available.
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05-27-2020, 07:45 PM | #15902 |
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I think I'd go with the '00s on this one over the '10s. Both have some masterpieces and both have some real stinkers, but I like that the earlier Heisei era tended to have more variety. The Neo Heisei era got really formulaic at times and the older shows (especially pre-Kabuto) sometimes felt like they cared more about story and character than they did about shilling whatever trinkets get shoved into that year's belt.
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05-27-2020, 11:57 PM | #15903 |
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I felt the 2010s were a stronger decade, too. The 2000s were littered with far too much melodrama triggered though poor communication or just plot contrivance, I felt.
But more power to you if you feel the 2000s were stronger. I'm not here to tell you otherwise Considering both decades have a series I just have no drive to watch (Faiz and Zi-O), they both have their ups and downs. Quote:
I think I'd go with the '00s on this one over the '10s. Both have some masterpieces and both have some real stinkers, but I like that the earlier Heisei era tended to have more variety. The Neo Heisei era got really formulaic at times and the older shows (especially pre-Kabuto) sometimes felt like they cared more about story and character than they did about shilling whatever trinkets get shoved into that year's belt.
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05-28-2020, 03:43 AM | #15904 |
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I'd kind of rather go by my individual preference, especially considering I'm on the spectrum. If it's a ''general consensus'' of people that aren't the target audience then I'm not sure if we can really rely on it is all.
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05-28-2020, 05:48 AM | #15905 |
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Kamen Rider is also one of those series I can never find much of a consensus on what's 'good' or 'bad' to begin with. It's all down to personal experience.
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05-28-2020, 07:02 AM | #15906 |
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Even among series that are considered "bad" by the majority, they still have their fans and vice versa. It all depends on what you, personally, want from a show.
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05-28-2020, 04:38 PM | #15907 |
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I couldn't agree more. I mean I don't think I actually remember seeing someone give a good reason for hating Kiva or Den-O/Decade of all shows being better!
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05-28-2020, 06:57 PM | #15908 |
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Yeah, I still remember finding it absolutely mystifying when I started noticing a crop of people during Zi-O asking why it couldn't be as good as Decade. You know, Decade? The one with the weirdly truncated length, embarrassing turnover of main writers, no ending, pointless fanservice, an obnoxious piece of s*** for a lead character, and an affront to the greatness that was Kuuga for a sidekick?
Apparently that was actually a really fun show with one of the coolest, most fun protagonists out there, and a great selection of individual story arcs with interesting takes on older Rider shows, that are so cool in the moment, the lack of overall cohesion is no real issue. Heck, even Onodera is pretty alright when you get to know him! Who knew? I mean, I kinda did, because I like Decade, but my point here is that I remember the "general" consensus being that it was kind of a pariah of a series, and that simply doesn't seem to be the case years down the line, and for all I know, it never was? Even shows as hated as Kiva and Ghost have die-hard fans (I would know!), and I've seen people say shows I assume are sacred cows like Kuuga and Double aren't all they're cracked up to be. It sounds trite, but "art is subjective" really is more than just a cheap way to dismiss criticism, and there's a reason my advice whenever people ask what shows they should watch is "whatever sounds good to you probably will be."
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05-28-2020, 07:11 PM | #15909 |
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Apparently that was actually a really fun show with one of the coolest, most fun protagonists out there, and a great selection of individual story arcs with interesting takes on older Rider shows, that are so cool in the moment, the lack of overall cohesion is no real issue.
I mean the Kuuga one wasn't great and it's a shame that Den-O didn't get an AR World, but hey, can't strike gold all the time.
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05-28-2020, 07:23 PM | #15910 |
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People reconsidering Decade as a good anniversary series just so they could say Zi-O was bad compared to something was a very weird experience, yes.
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