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05-15-2021, 05:45 PM | #371 |
TokuKnight89
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I'm hoping we aren't on the precipice of a "Toku Subs Dark Age" in which everything about those things many of us are even on this site to begin with become infinitesimally precarious and almost impossible to even watch, much less comment on!
I don't believe asking someone like Shirakura on Twitter is a bright move, but the fact that he knows of our concerns should be a factor as it shows that even the people involved know how stupid the situation with international distribution is! Ultraman seems to have the best ride of late given its almost unparalleled success in Western Distribution. Seriously, it's easier to watch Ultraman than Godzilla, and the latter of the two is far more recognizable by name alone in the States! What I really want to see is more corporation between everyone involved. Hasbro, SHOUT!, Team Rider, Mill Creek, Toei, and Tsuburaya! I know that's realistically unfeasible cause of the financial and corporate competition between Toei and Tsuburaya, but it's honestly what's needed if everyone is to survive and go home satisfied. Think of this way, Toei and Tsuburaya made peace briefly to produce the Ultraman and Kamen Rider crossover and that was apparently so popular that it had the added benefit of inspiring the idea of J being the "Jumbo Rider" (so I've heard). Basically, it was a cooperative collaboration which (potentially) inspired one more than the other. You could also use the Comics Code Authority as inspiration cause it was also a cooperative collaboration implemented in order to survive, and in some cases, thrive. When international travel restrictions let up as cases go down, I want representatives from the aforementioned "Big Six" to get in a room and sit the hell down and hammer out some kind of agreement to make sure that everyone gets a slice of pie here and there and everywhere! Again, it's not all that realistic. Then again, are any of us really living in "realistic times" anymore? The past year changed the global dynamic in ways none could foresee. I'm hoping someone somewhere is paying attention to our chatter and taking a hint. WE WANT RIDER KICKS!!! WE WANT SENTAI ROBOS!!! WE WANT ULTRA SERIES KAIJU!!! Quote:
I'm not looking at this situation with total nihilism (though I gravitate to that mindset almost every day). I think our connection to Toku will become weird and complex, but I don't see a finality to it. Someone here made note that SHOUT! is trying to get more Toku to stream, but I never got a lot of detail regarding that issue. In addition, Hasbro is probably maintaining a close watch and may renew efforts to license Sentai via SHOUT! in order to pick-up the slack. Curious why SHOUT! and Team Rider are staying mostly silent, but that silence won't last forever and they can't put off some kind of response indefinitely. I think the face of what we love and, more importantly, how we go about loving it will undergo a kind of 'facelift', but I also feel as though something big maybe in the works which precipitated that C&D and while it looks like a harbinger of near-doom, it's actually a sign that the dynamic could be shifting once again to a more positive outcome than we initially believe, and that dynamism doesn't necessarily need to worry about what Toei does or doesn't do, as cultural movements tend not to ask corporations and lawyers for permission! |
05-15-2021, 06:59 PM | #372 |
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I still find it odd that Ultraman is getting more treatment than Kamen Rider in the west when Kamen Rider seems to have a bigger auddience. I know the original Ultraman show was on TV back in the day, but I doubt the Baby Boomer generation is buying the Ultraman stuff released by Mill Creek.
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05-15-2021, 07:13 PM | #373 |
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Tsuburaya is certainly better at this. current shows are subbed on YouTube. even some stage shows are subbed officially. multiple shows and movies released on Blu ray. a Netflix animated series. Marvel is even doing Ultraman comics.
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05-15-2021, 07:18 PM | #374 |
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Wish I could buy the Ultraman DVDs.
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05-15-2021, 07:22 PM | #375 |
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Not just 'multiple' shows either -- at this point the entirety of Showa and New Gen aside from 80, Taiga and Z is available. It's wild how much they've covered in a year and a half
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05-15-2021, 07:35 PM | #376 |
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I think what sort of helps to consider is well, Ultraman is really all Tsuburaya has so a western and worldwide push makes sense. Especially since there were quite a few overseas ventures before the dark ages.
Toei though, we need to remember how massive Toei is, it isn't just Toku. When it comes to push, there are things that Toei has that are clearly more popular and worth more time and effort than Rider. So it makes sense as to why they aren't as heavy in pushing their Toku stuff in the west, because they've got a lot of other stuff doing well that they're trying to push too. |
05-15-2021, 08:00 PM | #377 |
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I still find it odd that Ultraman is getting more treatment than Kamen Rider in the west when Kamen Rider seems to have a bigger auddience. I know the original Ultraman show was on TV back in the day, but I doubt the Baby Boomer generation is buying the Ultraman stuff released by Mill Creek.
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05-15-2021, 08:13 PM | #378 |
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Yeah recognizability and popularity are two very different things. For example, did you know, globally Sonic toys and merch outsell Mario toys and merch? But I'm sure I don't have to tell you which of those two sells more video games.
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05-15-2021, 10:07 PM | #379 |
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I think what sort of helps to consider is well, Ultraman is really all Tsuburaya has so a western and worldwide push makes sense. Especially since there were quite a few overseas ventures before the dark ages.
Toei though, we need to remember how massive Toei is, it isn't just Toku. When it comes to push, there are things that Toei has that are clearly more popular and worth more time and effort than Rider. So it makes sense as to why they aren't as heavy in pushing their Toku stuff in the west, because they've got a lot of other stuff doing well that they're trying to push too. |
05-16-2021, 12:44 PM | #380 |
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Stupid question: Are Rider and Sentai the only toku by TOEI that TV-Nihon provides subs for?
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