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12-04-2021, 07:52 PM | #21 |
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Probably like my second least favorite movie war? Need to check my rankings.
But Genesis is my worst so uh yeah. Real bottom of the barrel movie honestly with Core. The only parts I specifically enjoyed were the Skull bits and some other small parts of each of the segments. Listen, you give me more Skull? I will pay attention. Other than that not much to say on Core other than... "I don't completely hate it". |
12-04-2021, 08:12 PM | #22 |
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...and then there's the rest of his story in the movie.
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12-04-2021, 09:09 PM | #23 |
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Maybe it's just because I watched JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stone Ocean on Netflix recently, but Sokichi reminds me a lot of Jotaro in the "not a perfect parent" department. But hey, we got the Bat and Spider Dopant out of it.
The OOO portion felt to like it was from a writer not completely familiar with the setting and written when the show was early enough in development that it feels kind of half-baked as far as feeling like a part of OOO, while also feeling like a bite-sized portion of Inoue being Inoue. Core...I mean, Fumihiko Tachiki playing a Rider/villain is fun, at least. Heart Breaker was a fun theme. |
12-04-2021, 09:15 PM | #24 |
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That we did!
(Bat Dopant's actress would go on to play Alain's sister in Ghost, which isn't super relevant to anything, but she looked so familiar in this movie that I had to pause it to go look up why.) Quote:
The OOO portion felt to like it was from a writer not completely familiar with the setting and written when the show was early enough in development that it feels kind of half-baked as far as feeling like a part of OOO, while also feeling like a bite-sized portion of Inoue being Inoue.
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12-04-2021, 09:21 PM | #25 |
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I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and claim that Inoue nails the themes of the movie spinoffs he writes, but I think I can see an OOO story in there. It's missing a lot of the prime story movers (the Greeed aren't really part of it, and Ankh's stitched in later), but a story where Eiji's kind simplicity becomes a lifeline to someone overcome by their obsessions... feels pretty OOO to me?
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12-04-2021, 09:27 PM | #26 |
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Honestly, I never really loved the Movie War format? I think OOO/Fourze would go on to have the best swing at the concept, but it's too limiting to have much success. Needing to do two different stories that dovetail into a team-up resolution... it just, it's almost impossible to land that? It's always going to feel incongruent, whether from the disparity of themes (these two stories have opposing messages!) or the hamfistedness of the conclusion (it's just, like, Here's A Giant Monster To Fight). The later iteration of the Winter Movie, when it became a legit movie-length team-up, that's more the sweet spot for me.
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12-04-2021, 10:09 PM | #27 |
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Like I said, anything W-related is generally good. That said, I think this Skull movie is probably the weakest bit of W for me, even more so than the oft-maligned Eternal and Accel movies. It never really felt memorable to me and, honestly, I get the sense that it was made more because fans wanted more Skull rather than because the writers had a specific story they wanted to tell.
The OOO section I find to be objectively bad but also fascinating. OOO is a show that changed a lot from its original plans while this movie was clearly written by someone who had the show bible and no actual knowledge of the plot or characters. There's a whole bunch of stuff in here - homonculi, evil Cake Boss, Gotou as Birth before episode 40 - that is completely different from the show we were already getting by the time the movie came out. It's a really interesting window into a version of OOO that would never exist. |
12-04-2021, 11:17 PM | #28 |
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There's a whole bunch of stuff in here - homonculi, evil Cake Boss, Gotou as Birth before episode 40 - that is completely different from the show we were already getting by the time the movie came out. It's a really interesting window into a version of OOO that would never exist.
Of all the characterizations Inoue might not've gotten right, I do think he gave us a Kougami that's exactly how I remember him.
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12-04-2021, 11:41 PM | #29 |
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As much as I hated how the movie lets Sokichi off the hook for being a deadbeat dad, I really liked the point where he stopped in the middle of a fight (while he was being crushed to death!) to talk to Akiko on the phone. In isolation, it's a really cute scene about how Sokichi's responsibilities as a father take precedence over his role as a Kamen Rider. That's a very cool, unique role for a Kamen Rider to have!
...and then there's the rest of his story in the movie. And there are many, MANY episodes of several toku series in which a kid is upset that his or her (but usually his) only parent that actually lives with him, (the other usually working in another city or country) never sees him because of work, and the moral of the story is always that the kid is absolutely wrong to be upset that his parents are abandoning him because that is the right thing to do and the kid should just suck it up and accept having no parents. Yeah, it's bizzare to me too, but this is what they teach as a moral to children in children's television in Japan. These episodes seem to be mostly in Sentai and Ultraman, which are aimed at younger views, I think, so maybe you haven't seen it as much. Older kids are, apparently, expected to have already learned that it's okay to be abandoned by your parents. |
12-04-2021, 11:49 PM | #30 |
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The thing that's always so weird to me is how much these shows can tell stories about absentee parents who Had Good Reasons for not being around, while simultaneously telling stories about found families that're there for each no matter what... and never seem to acknowledge the disconnect of those two stories. Anyway, yeah, tokusatsu shows love to teach children that it's part of growing up to get let down by your parents, and it's childish to hold it against them. I don't have to like it, though.
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