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02-25-2020, 07:51 AM | #51 |
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I hate this idea, but it's not like I can expect hasbro to adapt past sentai seasons better than it's counterpart because I don't really like Beast Morphers even though Go-Busters is my favorite season.
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02-25-2020, 10:32 AM | #52 |
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I agree, they'll adapt Ryousouger just because of jurassic world 3.
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02-25-2020, 11:32 AM | #53 |
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Well it's more of because dinosaurs sell better. It's also speculated that Beast Morphers didn't sell well or something so it makes sense why Hasbro wants to play it safe.
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02-25-2020, 11:42 AM | #54 |
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Why did they adapt Go-Busters in the first place if it was not going to sell well?
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02-25-2020, 12:08 PM | #55 |
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Oh, and Ryusoulger didn't exist yet, of course. That leaves Lupat and Kyuranger -- both of which had suit and mecha design which could work well enough from a sales perspective. Lupat I can definitely see being too early especially with the complications of the brand ownership passing hands, or perhaps bad sales in Japan warned them off. Kyuranger I can certainly see the issue being too many rangers; where it's difficult to create a focused and balanced toyline and merchandising/branding in general. With all that, I can see Go-Busters being the "well, guess we'll go with that one" pick.
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02-25-2020, 12:13 PM | #56 |
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If you're alluding to Go Buster's failure, whether or not a Sentai does well almost never impacts the success of the Power Rangers counterpart. Quote:
It might simply have been a case of "the best of bad options". Toqger and Zyuohger both had very simple suits with very blocky simplistic mecha which I could see potentially being a hard sale. And I say this as someone who's a fan of both series and who loves their designs; it's just hard to see them being appealing in the western market.
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That leaves Lupat and Kyuranger -- both of which had suit and mecha design which could work well enough from a sales perspective. Lupat I can definitely see being too early especially with the complications of the brand ownership passing hands, or perhaps bad sales in Japan warned them off. Kyuranger I can certainly see the issue being too many rangers; where it's difficult to create a focused and balanced toyline and merchandising/branding in general.
It's a shame, because Go-Busters is a great series as far as suits and mecha, especially compared to what's being produced today. They have sleek designs (well, the vehicle and Ace do) that aren't restricted by a line-wide gimmick, nice colours and details, awesome Ranger suits, etc. Sentai has a bad habit of producing over-saturated suits with poor or no colour break-up, and mecha that are extremely basic and unexciting. Go-Busters ticks all the right boxes for "cool and fun." I'm actually kinda sad Beast Morphers isn't doing well. Rysoulger makes sense enough. Granted the mecha still come across as too simplistic, but they're also not just giant geometric blocks with sparse detail and no shape. The costumes are also, IMO, ugly as fuck, but are not the almost barren sea of single-colour the other suits are. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 02-25-2020 at 12:24 PM.. |
02-25-2020, 12:14 PM | #57 |
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Are you even the sentai had a 80/90-like mechas Hasbro wouldn't adapt.
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02-25-2020, 12:24 PM | #58 |
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Also, if they were 80's/90's mecha they'd actually transform and have plenty of detail and colours instead of cheap, almost-unpainted plastic blocks you plug together in a loose humanoid shape like the last five or six Sentai. |
02-25-2020, 12:54 PM | #59 |
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Sorry, i just forgot some words when i type too fast.
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02-25-2020, 01:53 PM | #60 |
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Perhaps the issue is MMPR is so heavily embedded into Western pop culture than anything that's not dinosaur/prehistoric themed is just going to fall flat on its face.
I think the problem stems deeply with the beginning of Power Rangers. Saban had been trying to get Sentai adapted since Bioman. And Marvel with Sun Vulcan before that. Saban kept trying and trying until 1993 when the fates determined that Jurassic Park will be released and be a huge hit, with later that summer Zyuranger would get an American adaptation, coming off the heels of the hugely successful prehistoric blockbuster. With Ninja Turtles being popular at the time as well, MMPR season 1 was a recipe for success given the blend of martial arts and dinosaurs. For two more seasons, and a movie, the suits maintained the prehistoric ascetic (with the exception of one) despite the zords changing around them. Zeo was the first to break the mold, which did modestly, but its follow up, Turbo nearly doomed the franchise. In Space revived it but with the death of Zordon came the metaphoric death of Power Rangers as a franchise. Lost Galaxy was probably the pinnacle of the franchise in story form, but sales were either stagnant or dropping. Disney eventually got their hands on it and after a season and a half they adapted Abaranger with the return of Tommy. They would continue produce seasons up until 2009, but toy sales continued to drop, and Bandai of America tried everything to cut cost and increase sales. Disney and Bandai realized only MMPR sells. Thus in 2010 we got the MMPR revamp. When Saban got his hands back on the franchise he cut and pasted elements of MMPR into every adaptation of that era. The only one to break the mold a little in terms of story was Dino Charge, which was allowed because it was a dinosaur season and dinosaurs sell. They could make parallels to MMPR with it without even trying. And Saban got way too experimental with the 2017 movie, which is why that received mixed reactions and modest toy sales. Hasbro now owning the property and seeing first hand what does and does not sell, they too are following the same pattern. Why? It's because we've been conditioned to associate Power Rangers exclusively with MMPR and dinosaurs. I am sure the toy and suit designs in some recent Sentai seasons don't hold a candle to the 80's and 90's versions and that could affect sales. But in the Western World the main issue, at least from my perspective, is the lack of developing a season with their own identity and marketing the hell out of a newer product, and instead playing it safe with a cut and paste formula each season, with new characters that get cycled out too fast and remain under developed, combined with sub par toys. Last edited by acdcguy; 02-25-2020 at 02:12 PM.. |
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