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05-28-2020, 08:31 PM | #15911 |
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It's honestly nothing new when it comes to Toku fans. Or atleast, PR fans. Every season that's considered "irredeemably awful" "bad" "the worst" etc gets a complete 180 in general consensus each time a new "bad" season comes out. (Turbo, Wild Force, etc)
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05-28-2020, 09:36 PM | #15912 |
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On rewatch, the only thing that my opinion on Decade changed was Onodera. He's a pretty solid lead and just an overall great guy who was underutilized.
Otherwise, my disdain for that series still burns as bright as ever. Hell, even the apparently untouchable Kuuga I felt to be a let down, and I feel it's primarily because the fanbase builds it up so needlessly. It's aggravating. Thankfully, it seems only Kuuga gets this kind of treatment. Since the fanbase is so critical of so many other series, including "Perfect" shows like Gaim or W that they're not afraid to speak against them. But, still, just the fact that Zi-O made people reconsider their stance on Decade either tells me that Zi-O is just that bad, or Decade wasn't as bad as I remember, and considering I've seen Decade 3 times, I'm pretty fucking sure it's not the latter.
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05-28-2020, 11:32 PM | #15913 |
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I mean... isn't "needlessly building up a show" is like the entire purpose of every fanbase :v I don't think Kuuga's fanbase is particularly noteworthy or more toxic in that regard, but then I don't really hang out at other places of toku fandom besides this forum.
As for the decade preference, I prefer the 2000s myself based on what I've seen, but I agree that it's impossible to get any reliable measure of "general consensus". What we're actually basing that on, viewership number? Merch sales? Imdb rating? Just some observation on certain arbitrarily selected sites of internet toku fandom, without even taking recency bias (or even retrospective bias!) into account? Just too many variables. For instance, I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that Faiz was the most popular KR show in a recent poll in Japan, which sure is very interesting in itself. |
05-29-2020, 12:13 AM | #15914 |
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On the note about not really having a "general consensus" the Japanese fanbase and Western fanbase don't really interact all that often which makes gauging an overall series harder keeping in mind that these shows are made for Japanese children first and foremost. As you've said Faiz really is pretty popular in Japan. Comparing that to english speaking fans thiers more of a mixed reaction to Faiz.
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05-29-2020, 05:15 AM | #15915 |
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Well as someone on Twitter pointed out, the disconnect may be due to western fan’s main source of Kamen Rider being a subtitled version by a group that takes extensive liberties with their material (eg, Ouja (monarch) is rendered as ‘champion’(hasha), among other bizarre choices). Well that and people in the west having some unrealistic standards as to what the show should be, rather than accepting that what they want isn’t necessarily the same as what the author wants.
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05-29-2020, 01:38 PM | #15916 |
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For those interested, here's this year's KRxSS Live and Show (Chou Eiyuu Sai):
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06-03-2020, 04:51 AM | #15917 |
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Well, just finished my rewatch of OOO. Just as solid as I remember, though my memory was a tad hazy on some bits (I had assumed Gotou became Birth 10 episodes earlier than he did, and that Date had returned a lot sooner, but hey, it's been 9 years).
Still, I feel it held up as I had remembered. The monster of the fortnight was going strong when this aired, which means they often times had to come up with contrived reasons for the same conflict to last 2 episodes, but most of the time it worked out. Eiji was just as dumb and lovable as I remembered, and Ankh really shined as a tentative hero. After his return to the villainous side during the final quarter, it really did feel like he was truly willing to be a villain if not for the fact that everyone else were utter pricks. I also liked that they let Ankh die. While the films allude to the fact that Ankh returns in the future, their placement in canon is suspect at best. In all, I feel OOO is still a top tier series, thanks to the strong cast.
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06-03-2020, 04:44 PM | #15918 |
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Man, OOO is so good.
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06-05-2020, 03:56 PM | #15919 |
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Kamen Rider Blade - Trial Arc Part 1 (up to ~Ep39)
I think I've hit the part where Blade goes from "perfectly good Rider show" to higher up on people's lists. It's a great showing for both Kenzaki and Hajime, and Tachibana is also there (he gets some good stuff in the last couple of episodes), with everyone's motivations making it clear just how much they've evolved over the show. Wild Chalice is a great suit, perhaps my favourite in Blade. While there could have been a little more focus on [spoiler:Shiori] for an arc featuring [spoiler:her dad], but they got to it in the last episode or so! Just in time to introduce the guy who I guess is going to be the final villain? Idk, this show's been good at not having one of thise, and I *know* Blade probably doesn't end by just vanquishing some big bad who's been masterminding it behind the scenes. Let's see how we go as we hit the last 10 episodes.
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06-06-2020, 10:46 AM | #15920 |
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Ryuki 1-10 (Rewatch)
-Man, I love this show. Everything's just set up so well with what I consider the absolute best combination of main (Ryuki), secondary (Knight), and tertiary (Zolda) Riders, as well as a really strong supporting cast. Reiko and Goro-chan are two of my favorites from the non-Rider group. -I really miss horror movie aesthetic from Kamen Rider! The very first scene introducing the Mirror World spider monster is prime J-Horror material, as well as the body discovery shot in the antique shop. Such scenes may evoke the kind of "wait this show is for kids!?" reaction, but make no mistake, kids eat this shit up. I don't care much for bloody and gory stuff, but this atmospheric urban legend stuff that leaves a lot to imagination was right up my alley as a kid. -On the other side of the spectrum, the ORE Journal crew/segment is such an effective comedic breather. Reiko is the kind of intelligent no-nonsense character that I wish would exist in more KR shows; the Chief is a fun likeable guy who obviously cares a lot about his employees; and while I don't think I like Shimada as much later on when she's pretty much become a caricature, her early scenes were gold. -It struck me at how Ryuki has been a bit overshadowed by Knight and Zolda; which said less about Ryuki himself (one of the best main Rider design in the franchise!) and more about how magnificently badass the other two are. As cool as Dragreder (which, let's admit it, is kinda basic; Haruto Potter also got a red dragon in Wizard) and vents are, it's still hard to compete with the Medieval Golbatman's show, in the first three episodes no less. -And no prize for guessing who my favorite Rider is :] Zolda is just perfect: the way the design is modeled after Metal Heroes (I watched Jiban in my childhood!); the way he's framed to emphasize his deliberate movement and calculated fighting style; Kitaoka himself as a character; and the show's gradual reveal of what Zolda's capable of. Like, they don't just show everything at once with him, they show bits and pieces like the handgun and just the way he generally moves about in the first appearance, then the 'oh shit' moment with the bazooka Shoot Vent in the following episode, and finally the 'OH SHIT' moment with the End of the World fireworks a few episodes later. That's how you build up your Rider flawlessly. -Speaking of Vents in general, the presentation is great here. It's done so intuitively that there's no unnecessary exposition about how it works. You got clean, quick, close-up of the card, brief yet oh so memorable sound clips, and immediate display of such diverse powers in action. -Hatenaki Inochi is still my favorite insert song, nay, my favorite tune in the whole KR franchise. -Scissor's arc is weaker than I remember, and Scissor himself functions much more as a Monster/Goon of the Week archetype than an actual Rider. Could've used a couple more episodes to polish up Sudo's character more and/or have him showcase one or two more Vents, I reckon. -The Volcancer scene, though? Still great. As a kid watching that moment for the time I wasn't familiar yet with the term deconstruction/subversion, but I remembered thinking it was such a cool and terrifying spin on the whole 'using monster in battles' as popularised by the Pokemon and Digimon boom at that period of time. Wizard 1-10 Okay show so far, I occasionally enjoyed it. |
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