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07-08-2015, 12:08 AM | #6211 |
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Seeing as how we haven't had a super amazing innovative stellar show since Gekiranger, no, we can't just have something that is simply entertaining. Plus, Ninninger isn't the least bit entertaining, it is boring as fuck. Almost as boring as Drive.
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07-08-2015, 03:12 AM | #6212 |
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Both; I loved ZyuRanger and I love the hell out of NinNinger.
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07-08-2015, 03:55 AM | #6213 |
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I thought Zyuranger was a little boring; fell into the child of the week motif way too quickly and at the sake of progressing the other interesting story lines they had going in the show. I feel some people like it since they can pick out MMPR stuff, but that is just my opinion.
I love Ninninger, but I also loved Kakuranger, Hurricaneger, and ninjas in general, so that is my bias. I think Ninninger is fun and bright and everything that little kids want to see. This is the era of super kid-friendly sentai shows; there were darker seasons and minimalists seasons and seasons that aimed towards a slightly older crowd, but now they are going after little kids. And since it is a Japanes kids' show, there is nothing wrong with that and I support it (my kids don't speak Japanese, but they love watching). |
07-08-2015, 09:01 AM | #6214 |
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I love Zyu because it is just a great show, not because of MMPR. The stories are enjoyable, the main plot is complex, the development for most of the rangers and the subtle development for the villains is superb. The music is pleasing to the ears and the choreography is utterly fantastic. Not to mention the mech battles are quite enjoyable to watch too and they don't look like giant bricks walking on screen.
BTW, just because it is a kids show does not mean it has to be dumbed down. Kids are not stupid. They don't need everything to be sugar coated, bright, and happy go lucky 24/7 to enjoy it. A kid can watch Kakuranger and enjoy it just the same as Ninninger Kaku doesn't insult their intellects. Kaku treats kids like they are smart while Nin treats them like they are dumb. Last edited by Dr Kain; 07-08-2015 at 09:04 AM.. |
07-08-2015, 09:06 AM | #6215 |
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I would argue that NinNinGer is more about entertainment than treating kids if they were dumb. Honestly I don't feel like my IQ drops any watching it unlike something like Teen Titans Go. Honestly I get a lot out of the story right now and I totally love the entire cast. I think there is a lot going on with the plot too. Just Takaharu acts a lot more than he thinks and screams a lot doesn't make this a dumb show not when all of them more than get past his flaws.
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07-08-2015, 09:33 AM | #6216 |
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I would argue that NinNinGer is more about entertainment than treating kids if they were dumb. Honestly I don't feel like my IQ drops any watching it unlike something like Teen Titans Go. Honestly I get a lot out of the story right now and I totally love the entire cast. I think there is a lot going on with the plot too. Just Takaharu acts a lot more than he thinks and screams a lot doesn't make this a dumb show not when all of them more than get past his flaws.
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07-08-2015, 09:42 AM | #6217 |
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BTW, just because it is a kids show does not mean it has to be dumbed down. Kids are not stupid. They don't need everything to be sugar coated, bright, and happy go lucky 24/7 to enjoy it. A kid can watch Kakuranger and enjoy it just the same as Ninninger Kaku doesn't insult their intellects. Kaku treats kids like they are smart while Nin treats them like they are dumb.
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07-08-2015, 01:30 PM | #6218 |
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Ninninger isn't even 20 episodes in yet and if we are going to compare Nin to Kaku, then let's look at the first 20 episodes of Kaku; they were way dumber and more ridiculous than anything Nin has aired yet. Nine isn't dumbing anything down, nor is it treating the audience like they are stupid. It's a light-hearted show and light-heart sells right now. You are entitled to your opinion, but I do think that it is wrong.
Comparing the first 18 episodes of each series, I'd argue that Kaku is actually goofier than Ninnin, although I think Kaku's sense of humor is smarter. Kaku's comedy is based on pointed social satire, whereas Ninnin's humor is pretty vapid and surface level. Since comedy is such a big emphasis in these episodes, I think Kaku's superiority here is pretty substantial. But... Ninnin improves upon Kaku, at least in the first 18 episodes, in its approach to overarching plot and character development. The first hint of an overarching plot in Kaku doesn't emerge until Junior's arrival in episode 18, and the show doesn't start developing its lead characters in earnest until the mid-20s. Meanwhile, Ninnin shows us an overarching plot from episode one, and it builds 3 distinct, fully fleshed-out characters (Kasumi, Fuuka, and Yakumo), one of which is gunning for franchise-classic status (Kasumi, with her bubblegum-flavored ruthlessness). Even the characters I don't like (Kinji, I'm looking at you) or who are not particularly unique (Takaharu), I find hard to discount as under-developed compared to Kakuranger. Nagi is the obvious exception, but look at the first 18 of Kaku, and you'll find Sasuke, Saizou, and Seikai are equally bland.** Do I expect Ninnin to reach the dramatic heights of Kakuranger's second half, which is some of the best sentai I've ever seen? Based on recent series (and based on the overarching plot already established, which is admittedly pretty freakin' bland), I have to say no, I don't. But I don't think it's fair to count it out quite yet. Whether one likes it or not, Ninninger has a lot going for it -- and I'm confident that there are interesting developments in store for the next 28+ episodes. ** Kaku's early episodes spend a lot of time developing the monsters of the week as actual characters, often at the expense of developing the heroes, which is something that makes it unique in the Sentai pantheon (as far as I've seen, at least). I readily admit that criticizing Kaku's sparse development of the heroes until later episodes may be missing the creators' point -- even though it still rings as problematic to me. Last edited by Kamen Rider Lucha; 07-08-2015 at 01:53 PM.. |
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Keep in mind I haven't seen a TON of Sentai, and what I have seen is mostly older stuff, so maybe i've just been watching the wrong shows...but none of the Sentai i've seen has really been all that deep, or had that many interesting arcs. In fact, the story development is a bit more interesting than some other shows...
Actually, that brings up a point. Why is everybody comparing it to kakuranger? Is it just because it had a slow start, but ended up being everybody's favorite? I pick on this series a lot, but I got halfway through Megaranger and thought it was absolutely boring. I felt like almost nothing happened the whole time, except a new villain showing up. Ninninger DEFINITELY has a lot more going for it than that series. Even if it's not up to the standards of what people consider to be the best, it's certainly not bad.
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07-08-2015, 11:28 PM | #6220 |
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The only reason I'm comparing it to Kaku is because it has ninjas and Youkai.
Even the first 20 episodes didn't treat it's audience like it was stupid. Nin is dumbing a lot down. There have been 4 forced in mech battles that did not need to be there. There was the episode from last week that was just a total waste even by Ninninger standards. Then we have the villains that are doing nothing. There hasn't been a lick of development for the current boss dude and the anger management guy didn't have any development either. Oh yeah, and white and yellow have barely been developed either. Last edited by Dr Kain; 07-08-2015 at 11:31 PM.. |
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