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04-12-2017, 05:01 PM | #41 |
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The final episode of GoRider is up and it, along with this entire special, was fantastic. Not only did Emu solve the mystery in a really clever way, the fact that they brought an end to the world using lore from Blade was really cool and something that I wasn't expecting.
The fight scene at the end was also pretty cool. It was really weird seeing the Kamen Riders finally transform into the titular Kamen Sentai GoRider but really fun and an interesting way to end an already amazing special. I also like that this acted as an epilogue of sorts for Baron, Marika, Another Agito, and Lazer. All and All, I loved this special and cannot recommend it enough. On a side note, why was this show named Kamen Sentai GoRider? They come from out of nowhere and weren't mentioned before or after their appearance. How did Emu even get those cards? For that matter, what were those cards? Toei has a nasty habit of doing that don't they? Naming a movie or special after a character or plot element that really isn't that important. They had five actors returning for what is essentially an epilogue story, yet they chose to name it after a joke? |
04-12-2017, 05:41 PM | #42 |
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The final episode of GoRider is up and it, along with this entire special, was fantastic. Not only did Emu solve the mystery in a really clever way, the fact that they brought an end to the world using lore from Blade was really cool and something that I wasn't expecting.
The fight scene at the end was also pretty cool. It was really weird seeing the Kamen Riders finally transform into the titular Kamen Sentai GoRider but really fun and an interesting way to end an already amazing special. I also like that this acted as an epilogue of sorts for Baron, Marika, Another Agito, and Lazer. All and All, I loved this special and cannot recommend it enough. On a side note, why was this show named Kamen Sentai GoRider? They come from out of nowhere and weren't mentioned before or after their appearance. How did Emu even get those cards? For that matter, what were those cards? Toei has a nasty habit of doing that don't they? Naming a movie or special after a character or plot element that really isn't that important. They had five actors returning for what is essentially an epilogue story, yet they chose to name it after a joke? |
04-12-2017, 10:15 PM | #43 |
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Well with all three episodes now out I decided to just watch this whole thing in one sitting. It works better as a movie anyway, so I'm glad I waited. But first things first:
Toei, we've gotta talk. What do you have against Emu? The man is nothing short of a saint, the perfect role-model for all the children in the audience, and you just won't leave him alone. When he isn't in his own show, having his entire life manipulated by the main bad guy, having his friends die, being treated like a nuiscance by his friends who aren't dead, or failing to save the people he sets out to help, he's in spin-off projects getting his face shoved into used syringes, beaten with a metal pipe, stabbed, and, and this rate, probably getting gunned down in the street in the summer movie or something. What did he do to deserve any of this? Are the writers over there taking bets as to who can put Emu through the most s***? Because that's just messed up. You people make me sick. ANYWAY, with that (largely facetious!) rant out of the way, I'd just like to say that this series was massively better than it had any right to be. Being a random spin-off coming from a writer who's not only never touched any of these characters, but is also the guy behind Ninninger (and yes I know I like Ninninger, shut up), I was not expecting anything this actually interesting. It's not the greatest thing in the world, but this was honestly pretty good. Kento Shimoyama has a surprisingly good grasp on the whole cast. He gets that Emu needs to suffer horribly at all times (and even makes him bleeding profusely a plot point), he gets that Dan is nutso, he gets that Kiriya is the man, he gets that Kenzaki is REALLY the man, and most impressively Kaito felt more or less like Kaito, and he's a character writers who aren't Urobuchi tend not to get the subtleties of. Youko's maybe a little bubbly, but she was also barely a character to begin with, so I can't be too angry. The plot is a remarkably engaging Twilight Zone style mystery, too. It caught me off-guard way more than I expected. There were some great twists and making a major point out of Kenzaki not actually being dead was some stellar writing. You totally could've glossed over that as an excuse to bring Blade back and no one would've cared. But they went the extra mile and both played on the viewer's inherent trust of a returning face AND let said returning face get to be the key player in saving the day at the end. As a huge Blade fan I couldn't be much happier. As for the actual Go-Rider part of Go-Rider, it sure was a thing. It's almost whiplash inducing when those cards abruptly show up, but the fight scene itself is goofy fun, and if that's the price we have to pay to get this cool story, so be it. Overall this was one of the stronger spin-offs we've gotten. Basically taking the potential from stuff like Kamen Rider 4 and really doing something with it. I'm really pleasantly surprised by Go-Rider. Good stuff all around. Oh, and back when Gaim was airing I was pretty certain Kaito would eventually lead a Sentai team while doing goofy poses.
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04-12-2017, 10:48 PM | #44 |
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Well with all three episodes now out I decided to just watch this whole thing in one sitting. It works better as a movie anyway, so I'm glad I waited. But first things first:
Toei, we've gotta talk. What do you have against Emu? The man is nothing short of a saint, the perfect role-model for all the children in the audience, and you just won't leave him alone. When he isn't in his own show, having his entire life manipulated by the main bad guy, having his friends die, being treated like a nuiscance by his friends who aren't dead, or failing to save the people he sets out to help, he's in spin-off projects getting his face shoved into used syringes, beaten with a metal pipe, stabbed, and, and this rate, probably getting gunned down in the street in the summer movie or something. What did he do to deserve any of this? Are the writers over there taking bets as to who can put Emu through the most s***? Because that's just messed up. You people make me sick. ANYWAY, with that (largely facetious!) rant out of the way, I'd just like to say that this series was massively better than it had any right to be. Being a random spin-off coming from a writer who's not only never touched any of these characters, but is also the guy behind Ninninger (and yes I know I like Ninninger, shut up), I was not expecting anything this actually interesting. It's not the greatest thing in the world, but this was honestly pretty good. Kento Shimoyama has a surprisingly good grasp on the whole cast. He gets that Emu needs to suffer horribly at all times (and even makes him bleeding profusely a plot point), he gets that Dan is nutso, he gets that Kiriya is the man, he gets that Kenzaki is REALLY the man, and most impressively Kaito felt more or less like Kaito, and he's a character writers who aren't Urobuchi tend not to get the subtleties of. Youko's maybe a little bubbly, but she was also barely a character to begin with, so I can't be too angry. The plot is a remarkably engaging Twilight Zone style mystery, too. It caught me off-guard way more than I expected. There were some great twists and making a major point out of Kenzaki not actually being dead was some stellar writing. You totally could've glossed over that as an excuse to bring Blade back and no one would've cared. But they went the extra mile and both played on the viewer's inherent trust of a returning face AND let said returning face get to be the key player in saving the day at the end. As a huge Blade fan I couldn't be much happier. As for the actual Go-Rider part of Go-Rider, it sure was a thing. It's almost whiplash inducing when those cards abruptly show up, but the fight scene itself is goofy fun, and if that's the price we have to pay to get this cool story, so be it. Overall this was one of the stronger spin-offs we've gotten. Basically taking the potential from stuff like Kamen Rider 4 and really doing something with it. I'm really pleasantly surprised by Go-Rider. Good stuff all around. Oh, and back when Gaim was airing I was pretty certain Kaito would eventually lead a Sentai team while doing goofy poses. Last edited by VoidinToku; 04-12-2017 at 11:01 PM.. |
04-12-2017, 11:25 PM | #45 |
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To make us sympathize M. At least he's not getting his ass kick around in every episode like Dan or Accel from W. I'm more annoy by why writers make loud and obnoxious red ranger. There are other ways to convey positivity and expressive outlook in life. What's irritating me the most is they're always right in the show like Lucky in Kyuranger. It's like they're telling kids not to be serious or act rationally instead just go do what you feel at the moment because there won't be any consequences. Btw, Emu is actually taller than Kiriya. I thought he's suppose to be Gaim or Ghost's height. The only tall riders are Fourze, Drive, and Pre-Decade.
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04-13-2017, 12:03 AM | #46 |
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However, the other red like takaharu from Ninninger can't act at all with the way he's delivering his line monotonely. At least Daigo from Kyoryuger is charismatic and can act. I know people also dislike Yamato because he's hogging all the screen time, but I like that he's nice and friendly without being loud and obnoxious with that Lucky catchphrase. He needs to tone down. |
04-13-2017, 12:17 AM | #47 |
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Uh... On the actual topic here, this is probably my favorite Rider crossover I've seen so far. It all worked really well, good handle on all the characters, and the fact that this tied into past lore was awesome.
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04-13-2017, 01:12 AM | #48 |
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I loved this. Man, this was great. I was afraid they wasted Kenzaki with the reveal last episode, so I had the biggest grin when the real Kenzaki showed up. I also loved the use of his lore to actually beat the game.
...I don't know if that's how it quite works (I distinctly remember a monolith and a swarm of darkroaches), but I don't really care It was cool. I honestly just rolled with the initial reveal of "He's an Undead who sacrificed his humanity, so he's basically dead for all intents and purposes," so I was pleasantly surprised that they dug their heels and said "No, Blade is still alive. Not between life and death, not technically dead, none of that." So it was neat. I liked Emu leaving himself hints for when he returned, too. It was clever, even if I couldn't figure out how the numbers actually related to his phrase. However, I must say: Using Emu's shoulder to hide half the message to the reveal was a cheap tactic. I mean, yes, we did get the full reveal less than 5 minutes later, but still, it's a bit of a cheap way to raise the tension. I loved so much of this, the GoRiders themselves felt like an afterthought. Like a writer made a really solid crossover story, but Toei told them they wouldn't film it unless they added a gimmick to market it with Still, the fight scene with the GoRiders was cool and fun. Despite not watching Ex-Aid or Agito, the scene with the 4 actually dead Riders sacrificing themselves one more time was rather touching. It was nice to see Kaito going out for the right reasons this time. It felt like I was watching the Baron Kaito was supposed to be, instead of what Gaim ended us with. Still, there are a few parts that are head scratching. First, how could Kenzaki sense the cards being used in the virtual world? I mean, yeah, I know Undead are drawn to each other, but that one is a bit of a stretch... Second, why did Dan use Blade of all Riders? I know he needed to pick a Rider whose whereabouts were unknown, but I'm pretty damn certain Kickhopper cares if someone steals his likeness. This is more of a story telling reason over anything, since I love Blade and Kenzaki Third, does this mean that Decade is even worse at continuity? Since main universe Blade dimension hopped to kill Decade, that would mean that 1. His universe now only has 1 Undead (Hajime), and 2. The universe Blade was in likely didn't have any Undeads, so...Shouldn't 2 worlds have been destroyed? Fourth, why didn't Kenzaki have a final scene to help cap things off? I'm a little disappointed. He and Emu just leave the game world, and he's just gone... Still, I really loved this crossover. Honestly, if THIS was the Super Hero Taisen film, I would've been very satisfied. OH YES, ONE MORE THING I GOT TO MENTION: It's super awkward to watch Blade and Another Agito transform beside Ex-Aid, Laser, Baron, and Marika. They're so loud and bright, and they just stand there, waiting, since everyone else has a million special effects and sounds to play before they actually transform. It's such a hilarious contrast.
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04-13-2017, 01:31 AM | #49 |
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I utterly loved this. All the (actual/physical) dead Riders sacrificing themselves to Emu and Kenzaki was very touching and heart breaking. THough it does beg the question, are they truly, honestly, gone? They were brought back for this, can they be brought back through other means?! And Kenzaki just vanishes. Typical. Hell, Dan even said that he chose Kenzaki's form because his location was unknown. So what else should we expect from him, stick around? No, he's going to leave as abruptly as he appears. Kenzaki Kazuma, a.k.a Kamen Rider Blade, or as he should be called Kamen Rider Lone Ranger.
Also, this has to take place after the Taisen Movie. Otherwise, how else would Emu have the GoRider stuff?
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04-13-2017, 02:16 AM | #50 |
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Dan probably chose kenzaki because he's a main rider and a heroic one, so no one would suspect him.
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