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02-04-2020, 10:01 AM | #21 |
天心の英雄たち
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Wait what?! Every rider (aside from Decade) has ended around 48-52 episodes, admittedly you're right that 10 of them are still gonna be about this lame ass arc. But no Zero One is not going to end at episode 25, unless I somehow missed a big announcement on Twitter or Facebook.
So frustrated with this new arc my brain short circuited. Seriously on Monday after work I like to sit down, relax and watch the latest episode of Kamen Rider. And as I watched this latest episode just retread and hit the same beats and do the same things I've been watching for weeks I actually just started getting mad about it. This just feels really lazy. I mean this is KAMEN RIDER!! The exciting badass super hero!! ..and now we're watching Flower Arranging, House Selling, and Court Drama,... while The Hero gets his butt kicked episode after episode with the same exact move (Jackrise). very annoying. |
02-04-2020, 12:48 PM | #22 |
Dai Shogun
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Should I repeat my weekly segment in which I say that I wholeheartedly enjoyed this week’s episode and cannot understand why people dislike this so much or...?
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02-04-2020, 01:26 PM | #23 |
take me to space
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Honestly I liked it too, and more than the last several episodes. While I'm not invested in the trial, the cool Raider being a mystery of sorts (even though I'm sure it'll be straightforward reveal) and Gai really upping his evilness here makes me excited to see it all come to a head next episode (or the one after if that one ends on another cliffhanger).
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02-04-2020, 01:31 PM | #24 |
NinninComic
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But in our day and age, it's not enough anymore. We're in an era where TV shows are build on surprises, plot twists, character background/interactions and well written (or at least believable) stories. Game of Thrones, The Expanse, the Marvel movies, Netflix-like platforms and SO. MANY. happened now. You can't be doing like in the early 2000s anymore. I know that's a kid show. I know that's a toy selling show. But it doesn't justify the level 0 of plot development (well no there is the raider and fuwa thing but that's 3 or 4 min out of 23) and character development of the main cast of this arc. From the same writer, Ex-Aid, was simple. "beat Kuroto" => done. "now beat palad" => done. "next beat Cronos/Gamedeus/Cronos again" => done. game Clear. But it was coherent and an inner representation of a video game. Stages with minor bosses (salty and co), major bosses and a final boss. the historical 2-parters from Kamen Rider are obsolete now, or at least when you make it not focused on the main characters anymore. On a personal level that's what i hate most in Kamen Rider, and also why (warning. this is not a test. unpopular opinion ahead) W is one of my least favorite KR show. The story can be written on a stamp and was developed on maybe half of the episodes only (without having much of a mystery about philip and all. Everything was obvious. That takes the cake for a detective show !) while the other half was focusing on ""NPC" of the week" life and problems (and that's the aspect of KR I hate the most). Because what's the point of having a 5 to 10 main cast if you take half the show talking about random people. Now that's what Zero-One is doing in this arc. We focus way more on Smile, the florist clan dude or the house seller dude instead of Aruto or any other protag. WAIT NO. Even worse we don't even focus on the "NPCs". We just recycle the same dialogs and fight scenes. I mean we're near the half of the show, we still know nothing about Korenosuke, Soleo (the real one and the humagear one), Yua's childhood (or even Aruto's after the incident), Gai's past (or not enough), what did Horobi and Jin do during the past 14 years, the vice pres (why does he want to be president so much ?), what was Izu doing before Aruto becomes the president ? etc etc... There is so many things you can do with the plot now. EDIT : and like someone else said I don't remember where. Zero-One is built (at least so far) on a "it's not really a problem if a humagear is destroyed + nothing really happens to a human turning into a raider when he is defeated". That's killing the tension and drama of the situation somehow. It's not a trivial thing. I thought Toei kinda understood that, because Ex-Aid and Build moved away from the formula or at least well enough to make it acceptable (ZI-O is a special case as the anniversary show with cameos from every shows). In the end, the show can still be enjoyable, there is comedy and fights with visual effects, of course it's watchable. But not understanding why people dislike it. that's wearing a blinder on purpose. Last edited by Omnikaiser; 02-04-2020 at 02:01 PM.. |
02-04-2020, 02:04 PM | #25 |
take me to space
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You know, you could have done without implying someone who isn't on the same train as you is 'wearing a blinder on purpose'.
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02-04-2020, 02:09 PM | #26 |
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But really. Is that really difficult to understand why people would be pissed ? Saying "ok I see it, but it doesn't matter to me I'm enjoying it" is 100% fine, respectable and opinion based. But saying "I don't see why people...". c'mon. EDIT : it's like what happened recently with the star wars franchise (staying vague on purpose in case someone would be spoiled), except KR are getting this every week. Last edited by Omnikaiser; 02-04-2020 at 02:16 PM.. |
02-04-2020, 04:25 PM | #27 |
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Let's not talk about Star Wars here...or at all for what it's worth...
I didn't like this episode because it's a repeat of what we had for 4 weeks. Aruto is simply stating that a life is at risk here and that they shouldn't do their silly bet on a person's life....then this gets completely shot down. The fact that we talk about justice but that we see that Gai straight up doesn't care about the law just make this unbelievable. May I remind you that the guy assaulted a law enforcer ( if Fuwa can be called that...) And also, for someone who wants to protect his corporation image, I'm sorry, but letting a Raider last week, being left unchecked like that is not "protecting" his image, it's straight up cheating...Which he was "against" at the first bet. That's not coherent with what we saw so far. ( yeah...except that he is behind the Ark going berserk and the very existence of Mestubojinrai...but nobody seems to care about this at all in this world.) |
02-04-2020, 05:58 PM | #28 |
天心の英雄たち
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02-04-2020, 06:36 PM | #29 |
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I don't mean this as an attack on anyone, but I think maybe some of y'all are getting so focused on the "it's just repeating the same story!" narrative that it's making you overlook the actual changes that are happening. Specifically, Aruto finally putting together the pieces that Humagears are going berserk in response to human malice. That's a huge development! Not exactly equal to when he first learned of metsubojinrai.net's existence, but comprable.
And yes, it's one that many of us saw coming, but that's because we have the advantage of watching this as fiction. We can tell when something is supposed to be foreshadowing because the show draws our attention to it. With all the other things Aruto has to deal with, it's reasonable that it would have to happen three times before he got the pattern. Last edited by FairyKing; 02-04-2020 at 07:37 PM.. |
02-04-2020, 06:40 PM | #30 |
King of the Rolex
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edit: nevermind
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