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03-13-2019, 03:04 AM | #11 |
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Well, now that subs are up, let's get into the details of this Episode........UMM, WHAT?!! There are just so many complications that come up with this Episode....
OK, I'm gonna go out on a limb here & say, I'm not the biggest fan of how quick Tsukuyomi has all of a sudden flipped off on Sougo ever since Zi-O II. I get it, it's apparently a big sign that he's going into becoming Ohma Zi-O, but c'mon now, she's been friendly with the guy for, like, 20 Episodes, and NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN she's willing to throw all that away?!! I could understand if maybe, she tried to talk Sougo out of it, but he refused multiple times....or if Sougo started showing some malicious tendencies? Heck, maybe if they waited until the Kikai Episode to conclude that he's actually manipulating the future unconsciously, sure, that would've been a little more acceptable. But him just getting this power--and mind you, he used it to save GEIZ OF ALL PEOPLE, you'd think she'd be a little more thankful--is enough to say "he's too big of a threat now?!!" Not buying this big shift in character. And to go as far as to ATTEMPT TO KILL CHILD SOUGO.....WOW. JUST WOW. I mean, maybe she was doing something else, as next Episode might reveal? But if it's true that's what she was doing, then that makes her lose brownie points with me BIG TIME. Also, GEIZ.....He's been flip-flopping NUMEROUS TIMES in the show. If this was more of just a simple "I'm here to kill you" to "Alright, you're not so bad, so I'll keep watch" to "NOPE, KILL HIM," THEN that's a decent transition for him that isn't so wild. But the way the show has written Geiz's conflict with Sougo has been very offputting for quite a while, and it's irritating. I would totally love this Episode's conclusion if not for that. Now, all this being said....WHY does Geiz Revive's RideWatch function via willpower?! In fact, the way it's manifested is just pure nonsense if you think about it. Why & how is this item, which is the key to defeating Zi-O, created via RideWatches from Kamen Riders from the future who are created via, apparently, Zi-O's imagination manipulating the future?!! It's just a huge headache on why it works this way. I love the functionality of Geiz Revive in combat, and its debut was awesome (White Woz with the "IWAE!!!" was fun), but logically this form makes little sense in its existence. SIGH......Anyway, looking forward to seeing WAGA BOII TSUKASA coming back next Episode. Hopefully he helps make this show's quality bump up a bit more.
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03-13-2019, 03:32 AM | #12 |
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Well, now that subs are up, let's get into the details of this Episode........UMM, WHAT?!! There are just so many complications that come up with this Episode....
OK, I'm gonna go out on a limb here & say, I'm not the biggest fan of how quick Tsukuyomi has all of a sudden flipped off on Sougo ever since Zi-O II. I get it, it's apparently a big sign that he's going into becoming Ohma Zi-O, but c'mon now, she's been friendly with the guy for, like, 20 Episodes, and NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN she's willing to throw all that away?!! I could understand if maybe, she tried to talk Sougo out of it, but he refused multiple times....or if Sougo started showing some malicious tendencies? Heck, maybe if they waited until the Kikai Episode to conclude that he's actually manipulating the future unconsciously, sure, that would've been a little more acceptable. But him just getting this power--and mind you, he used it to save GEIZ OF ALL PEOPLE, you'd think she'd be a little more thankful--is enough to say "he's too big of a threat now?!!" Not buying this big shift in character. And to go as far as to ATTEMPT TO KILL CHILD SOUGO.....WOW. JUST WOW. I mean, maybe she was doing something else, as next Episode might reveal? But if it's true that's what she was doing, then that makes her lose brownie points with me BIG TIME. Also, GEIZ.....He's been flip-flopping NUMEROUS TIMES in the show. If this was more of just a simple "I'm here to kill you" to "Alright, you're not so bad, so I'll keep watch" to "NOPE, KILL HIM," THEN that's a decent transition for him that isn't so wild. But the way the show has written Geiz's conflict with Sougo has been very offputting for quite a while, and it's irritating. I would totally love this Episode's conclusion if not for that. Now, all this being said....WHY does Geiz Revive's RideWatch function via willpower?! In fact, the way it's manifested is just pure nonsense if you think about it. Why & how is this item, which is the key to defeating Zi-O, created via RideWatches from Kamen Riders from the future who are created via, apparently, Zi-O's imagination manipulating the future?!! It's just a huge headache on why it works this way. I love the functionality of Geiz Revive in combat, and its debut was awesome (White Woz with the "IWAE!!!" was fun), but logically this form makes little sense in its existence. SIGH......Anyway, looking forward to seeing WAGA BOII TSUKASA coming back next Episode. Hopefully he helps make this show's quality bump up a bit more. Last edited by VoidinToku; 03-13-2019 at 04:39 AM.. |
03-13-2019, 04:51 AM | #13 |
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I'm in the same boat as everyone else. What the hell is going on with Tsukuyomi's character? And same with Geiz. It's like the writer prioritises the plot but contradicts or changes the characters to fit said plot. It reminds me of the Man of Steel series written by Bendis. Jor-El returns and takes Jon and Lois to explore space. Problem is, when Superman last saw Jor-El, he was just freed from being Mr. Oz then taken away by a beam of blue light. But when Superman sees him again, he acts like none of that even happen, just a casual "oh hey dad, what are you doing here?". And this is cos Bendis prioritises his plot over continuity.
And Geiz Revive is powered by willpower. So to activate it, Geiz needs to reaffirm that he must kill Zi-O. So how is this achieved? He sees Tsukuyomi try to kill child Sougo and pretty much causes an accident that kills everyone but Sougo and Hiryuu. I'd understand if he felt angry that Tsukuyomi was forced to do this and blames Sougo but we dont really get that implication. We just see him seeing her trying to kill kid Sougo, accident happens, Geiz is sad, returns to 2019 and activates Geiz Revive. Uhhh... okay... On the note of Geiz Revive. I did like the debut but Revive Goretsu is too bulky and ugly. However, Revive Shippu looks much better than the magazine scans. I'm hoping next week's episode gives us some answers. Cos we sure need them.
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03-13-2019, 05:40 AM | #14 |
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Reading all the comments here confirms exactly what I've been feeling about Kamen Rider Zi-O.......this is the WORST Kamen Rider series since Ghost,which was terrible,but this clusterf*ck of a show....well,it DOES have Decade, and at least the toys will drop in price soon after this is over. Save your money and WAIT,the Figures and other items will be greatly discounted...soon,based on the horrible "story telling"(???I have NO IDEA WTF is going on now,so confusingly badly written) and direction of this show. Ahhh only a few more months of this craptastic show, and this ALL goes away to be forgotten to time,ironically...
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03-13-2019, 08:28 AM | #15 |
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I'm holding my judgment until the endgame.
I mean, we know close to nothing and we are already at more than the half of the series if you think about it. I'm pissed at how they are handling Tsukuyomi for the moment. I'm just curious and to me, it's not the shitfest we had with Ghost. I still don't understand what they want to do with this series and I don't know if they really planned ahead anything. If I recall correctly and correct me if I'm wrong, the director, screenwriter for each episodes or "arc" aren't always the same. I wonder if it's not because of that that the show is inconsistent quality-wise. |
03-13-2019, 08:31 AM | #16 |
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Tsukiyoki looking like she caused the bus crash is clearly a fake-out. (I'd laugh if it turns out to be Decade's fault, though.)
The problem is how that event leads to Geiz Revive. Oh the show could definitely elaborate but... I kinda don't expect it to. I'm pretty used to this show just brushing off egregious questions and coming up with new stuff/rules literally every two episodes, though this would be a particularly egregious example. Actually I think a lot of the problems come from the show actually not telling instead of showing, which I don't usually say. What is going on through Geiz's head? We have no clue, and I wish I could just give the benefit of the doubt that it'll make sense in hindsight but it's most definitely not earned so I'm kinda already upset at this as a preface. Anyhow Geiz Revive is really cool but I do not like his weapon at all. |
03-13-2019, 08:57 AM | #17 |
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Yes, Tsukiyomi character is weird in recent episode. The other problem is White Woz character. I think the White Woz's character development is really boring. Compared to Prime Woz (Black Woz), Prime Woz have better character than White Woz.
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03-13-2019, 09:40 AM | #18 |
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Well, now that subs are up, let's get into the details of this Episode........UMM, WHAT?!! There are just so many complications that come up with this Episode....
OK, I'm gonna go out on a limb here & say, I'm not the biggest fan of how quick Tsukuyomi has all of a sudden flipped off on Sougo ever since Zi-O II. I get it, it's apparently a big sign that he's going into becoming Ohma Zi-O, but c'mon now, she's been friendly with the guy for, like, 20 Episodes, and NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN she's willing to throw all that away?!! What you people forget is that her "siding" with Sogo was extremely superficial. She was against killing an innocent, but was away from most of his big character moments and struggles, just sitting in the sidelines. She wasn't really bonding with him in any deep way. Quote:
Now, all this being said....WHY does Geiz Revive's RideWatch function via willpower?! In fact, the way it's manifested is just pure nonsense if you think about it. Why & how is this item, which is the key to defeating Zi-O, created via RideWatches from Kamen Riders from the future who are created via, apparently, Zi-O's imagination manipulating the future?!! It's just a huge headache on why it works this way. I love the functionality of Geiz Revive in combat, and its debut was awesome (White Woz with the "IWAE!!!" was fun), but logically this form makes little sense in its existence.
As far as the willpower thing goes, I guess it's just due to how Ridewatches work in general. They're born from the essence of the Rider, which is why the Shinobi watch only could be created once Rentaro had the mindset that could lead him to become a Rider in the future. So, Geiz had to have the mindset that could lead to Geiz Revive in order to create the Geiz Revive Watch. |
03-13-2019, 09:59 AM | #19 |
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The reason why I don't shit on the series is because of the "show but don't tell" mindset.
It's something I like, I don't need to have everything spelt out to me. I like to think for myself. As I said earlier without seeing the subs, I think that what you see Tsukuyomi doing is not what it seems. Also...still waiting to see the subs tonight so that I can finally make my mind concerning this episode. I just wish subs would be as fast as it was for Build. |
03-13-2019, 10:20 AM | #20 |
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I mean it all makes sense if you think about it. You also have to go for the more "Feels vs. Reals" mentality and not overthink things too much if you wanna have fun with the show. Cause to be honest, I see way too many people overthinking things which leads to them being confused and angry about this show.
I mean Tsukuyomi, while a bit jarring, makes a lot of sense in context as to why she changed sides. It's not like she was actually friends with Sougo, she was just trying to be the angel on the shoulder really. Only Sougo saw her and Geiz as friends. She was just trying to be nice and give the benefit of the doubt. But Zi-O II and Kikai were the things that really changed her mind. Though it's clear she still has some kind of soft spot for Sougo considering the scenes with her on the bus are clear misdirects. Geiz meanwhile it makes sense that he's flip-flopping a lot because he's the one actually interacting with Sougo constantly. Sougo's supposed to be this big bad overlord in the future, but the current Sougo, while there is a slight dark aura about him, isn't really that bad tbh. Geiz is getting to know the softer side of Sougo more, thus it's why he's flip-flopping constantly. It's just that Tsukuyomi's reckless actions in 2009 and her getting caught up in the bus crash is what finally makes Geiz have the resolve in order to make Geiz Revive. Geiz just doesn't want anyone else to sacrifice their life or put themselves in mortal danger to do a mission that he himself is supposed to do. So to stop anyone else from dying trying to stop Oma Zi-O, he'll defeat Oma himself. Also can I just say I love how the episodes with Another Zi-O are basically just Metal Sonic vs. Sonic from the Sonic OVA. |
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