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09-28-2020, 09:14 AM | #71 |
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The restaurant thing is actually a throwback to the Showa era, where many of the Riders hung out at some kind of dining establishment. Several of the early ones were run by the same guy, even. It's one of those iconic Rider elements like the belt or the motorcycle. The Showa vs. Heisei movie even did a scroll past cartoon versions of each show's restaurant during its end credits.
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Haven't followed the entire conversation, and I don't post here in general as much as I used to (my signature is also woefully out of date and I am too lazy to change it).
Hibiki is one of my all time favorite shows, definitely in my top 5 for Kamen Rider (probably 2nd to Ryuki). Hibiki himself is my favorite lead rider (Zolda is my favorite rider overall, character-wise) and his relationship with Asumu is just incredible. While I do agree the show was at its best overall during the first 29 episodes/prior to the infamous production changes, I will defend the latter portion of the series as some of the absolute strongest moments in the season occur during it. I'd post more of my thoughts but I don't want to spoil things (from either half of the show), plus it's been a while since I've watched it and I am too tired and lazy to dig through my old posts from my own initial watch of the series. Shounen Yo is also, hands down, my favorite toku related song bar none. Really, really hope you end up loving it as much as me and Switchblade do. Quote:
I really liked the fight scene in this one for what it's worth. Between the location and all the composite shots to get Hibiki fighting a giant, it felt very particular to this show's style. Obviously it didn't come out perfect in terms of the effects, but you can see how much they were experimenting with what a Rider fight scene could even be. I definitely don't remember seeing Faiz or Ryuki throwing down with a big hairy guy in a river.
Maybe this is different for folks that are more/equally into the Sentai or Ultra aesthetic, where I assume there's more fights like Hibiki's had in 2 and 4? Giant monsters and huge size differentials? For me, I want to see more fights like what he's having with Douji and Hime, and less of him running from/after a giant monster until he Drum Solos it into oblivion.
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09-28-2020, 09:34 AM | #72 |
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Maybe this is different for folks that are more/equally into the Sentai or Ultra aesthetic, where I assume there's more fights like Hibiki's had in 2 and 4? Giant monsters and huge size differentials? For me, I want to see more fights like what he's having with Douji and Hime, and less of him running from/after a giant monster until he Drum Solos it into oblivion.
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09-28-2020, 10:16 AM | #73 |
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I've never been fond of Kamen Rider shows doing CG fights in lieu of two or more guys in suits pushing each other around, preferably in a quarry or under a bridge, so this is going to be a Don't Fix What Ain't Broken situation for me and Hibiki. (And I'm saying this as a dude who came into the franchise on Ex-Aid.) It's nice that they wanted to try some new things, but it being a combination of not what I want out of Kamen Rider fights, alongside just generally not having the budget to execute those ideas well... I don't feel like giving them Points For Trying is as fulfilling as actually having solid fights that I enjoy watching?
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09-28-2020, 10:21 AM | #74 |
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I think that I’ll bring up that the idea of the Riders meeting at a cafe in the first place came from the writer’s son. Which is ironic, if you know who that son is. And I remember that Die at least knows that.
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09-28-2020, 11:09 AM | #75 |
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Sentai can be like that, but Ultra shows usually still have opponents of roughly equal size. Of the major toku franchises, Ultraman is usually the one where the fights more closely resemble wrestling - it’s hard to pull off a lot of martial arts moves when you’re wearing a bulky two-headed monster suit.
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I actually don't mind Rider shows doing stuff like that. Maybe It just the fact that I like innovatian even if it look really crappy. And to me Tokusatsu is and always will be about the suits at the end of the day so I'm fine with them indulging themselves with more visual effect heavy fights. It more of what I can see we get out of it. For example Hibiki running around doging a gaint monster can help future shows with composite shots and help give Sentai some good prespective shots for thier giant monsters. Or Saber giving us the most bike action we've had in years for the tv shows thanks to it's green screen and uses of the Unity engine.
Fantastic. It wouldn't surprise me if that's why Inoue avoids using restaurants. It's something he was into as a kid, you know? Restaurants are played out, Dad.
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09-28-2020, 01:34 PM | #76 |
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09-28-2020, 01:35 PM | #77 |
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Back-pocket it, and we'll circle back in... let's say 2022? Late-ish 2022? Is that good for you?
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09-28-2020, 03:09 PM | #78 |
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I’d say something but, like, I’ve had this same signature for I think a month now so...
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09-28-2020, 04:20 PM | #79 |
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Hibiki... this one's known as a non-Kamen Rider entry, it's like Kamen Rider only in name only, so yeah, something that you've never seen a Kamen Rider reach will happen here. Wut? Even with it not being named, it should be obvious. Any Kamen Rider series is titled after the lead Rider, which means obviously that is Hibiki. I guess with it not feeling too perilous comes from Hibiki's confidence of his abilities to take on those. Quote:
(Some weird-ass visual choices in that first fight sequence. First, no Henshin? I’ll allow it, since much of the fight is about Asumu’s perspective, but, man, a little bit of a bummer. Second, what was up with all of the TikTok filter-esque flares of light coming off of Hibiki’s suit? It wasn’t just one or two little glints, he was 95% washed out by it. I get that they maybe wanted it to be obscured, for mystery's sake, but this was like staring into the sun. Was maybe not the way to show off the suit for the first time!)
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09-28-2020, 06:55 PM | #80 |
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There're Kamen Rider trappings they're not really doing (no "Henshin!", no belt/driver, how often Hibiki takes his helmet off, no bike), but the storytelling is 100% Kamen Rider. It's all based on Hibiki?! That's why those kids never say Henshin when they do their choreographed transformations!
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