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11-09-2020, 06:23 AM | #601 |
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No-one's bringing up Sabaki cause it's his mandated holiday, that's why there's suddenly an unstoppable Oni problem. He'll get back and sort it once he's ben sightseeing in Rio.
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11-09-2020, 07:19 AM | #602 |
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This is the worst worst worst thing about the wiki. You go and look something up to check an episode title or a writing credit or whatever and it's immediately like "This episode features the debut of Side Character's Rider form, the Q3 belt and Lovable Tertiary Rider's death." I don't get why they insist on putting this stuff in the opening paragraph!
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11-09-2020, 09:48 AM | #603 |
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The most ominous thing about this episode is that Todoroki gets maimed by an Otoroshi, the Makamou specifically mentioned to only show up once every 100 years and yet here it is again for the second time in a year to emphasize just how much the coming of Orochi is stirring up the Makamou. This unpredictable wildness about them is arguably more threatening than Orochi himself and makes the world getting consumed by them sound a little more plausible.
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And here I was going to subtly hint at episode 45’s title by pointing out part of it is reused from episode 48 of Faiz, assured that you remember what happened in that episode. Well now, I’ll just point out that the episode in question aired ON CHRISTMAS. Yet somehow, failed to generate the barrage of vengeful kids and parental complaints that Kiriya Kujo’s death 11 years to the day later elicited.
If I had to guess why Kujo Kiriya's death was more surprising, it's probably that the episode title didn't spell it out and it's unexpected for a Primary Rider to lose their bike so early. That's how I dismissed the possibility way back when people were speculating about it. Quote:
This is the worst worst worst thing about the wiki. You go and look something up to check an episode title or a writing credit or whatever and it's immediately like "This episode features the debut of Side Character's Rider form, the Q3 belt and Lovable Tertiary Rider's death." I don't get why they insist on putting this stuff in the opening paragraph!
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11-09-2020, 10:17 AM | #604 |
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You beat me to it again, Androzani84. Yeah, following Masato Dying A Glorious Death, now we have Dying Gloriously Zanki. The format is slightly different due to Hibiki's Verbing Noun episode titles but it's close enough to be considered an Inoue-ism like [x] Dies in Fiveman, Jetman, Agito and Faiz, which I pointed out in the Faiz thread.
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11-09-2020, 10:27 AM | #605 |
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Hey, at least those spoilers are relevant. The worst worst worst worst thing about the wiki is looking at Ark's page and seeing a major spoiler for an upcoming plot twist in Beast Morphers casually thrown in the trivia section like it's nothing! And no, that's not a hypothetical, unfortunately. They removed it now but I really wish I didn't see that. Goddamn wiki!
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11-09-2020, 01:56 PM | #606 |
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And here I was going to subtly hint at episode 45’s title by pointing out part of it is reused from episode 48 of Faiz, assured that you remember what happened in that episode. Well now, I’ll just point out that the episode in question aired ON CHRISTMAS. Yet somehow, failed to generate the barrage of vengeful kids and parental complaints that Kiriya Kujo’s death 11 years to the day later elicited.
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This is the worst worst worst thing about the wiki. You go and look something up to check an episode title or a writing credit or whatever and it's immediately like "This episode features the debut of Side Character's Rider form, the Q3 belt and Lovable Tertiary Rider's death." I don't get why they insist on putting this stuff in the opening paragraph!
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The most ominous thing about this episode is that Todoroki gets maimed by an Otoroshi, the Makamou specifically mentioned to only show up once every 100 years and yet here it is again for the second time in a year to emphasize just how much the coming of Orochi is stirring up the Makamou. This unpredictable wildness about them is arguably more threatening than Orochi himself and makes the world getting consumed by them sound a little more plausible.
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11-09-2020, 02:26 PM | #607 |
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I’ve actually got an explanation for the lack of others. I think.
A magazine scan around this time teased a big final battle with the main three being joined by Danki, Sabaki, Eiki and Shouki, joined by newcomers Gouki (Manly Demon), Tohki (War Demon) and Banki (Barbaric Demon) for an epic battle of the ages. The fact I’m casually sharing this is because it ultimately doesn’t happen. A similar thing happened recently, with Zero-One’s magazine scans showing the final form, Zero-Two, fighting the new evil Rider, Ark-One. For bonus points, not only did it not happen, but it’s actually impossible within the show. And that’s all I’ll say. * And for you Sentai fans, Gouki is not a Blue hero with a crush on an elementary school teacher from Gingaman (though with this show’s initial producer and composer, it’s an easy mistake to make) and Banki is not a monster of the week from Go-Onger (I’ve probably ruined this joke by virtue of trying to explain it for Die’s benefit). |
11-09-2020, 03:21 PM | #608 |
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I’ve actually got an explanation for the lack of others. I think.
A magazine scan around this time teased a big final battle with the main three being joined by Danki, Sabaki, Eiki and Shouki, joined by newcomers Gouki (Manly Demon), Tohki (War Demon) and Banki (Barbaric Demon) for an epic battle of the ages. The fact I’m casually sharing this is because it ultimately doesn’t happen.
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11-09-2020, 09:43 PM | #609 |
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KAMEN RIDER HIBIKI VOLUME 44 - "HIDDEN PROHIBITION"
"Cut my feet on a rope course Dragged through the woods by a frightened horse Lost all my feeling when I fell through the ice Regained it in time to be attacked by mice" -Superchunk, "Slow Drip" This is... maybe the least checked-in I've been for a Kamen Rider endgame? I genuinely can't recall a time I've cared less about the overall plot of a season. I mean, to put it in context, there was a scene where an excited Hitomi (remember her?) is trying to get Asumu to pitch in on her panel theater group, and I honest to god thought Yes Please Just Follow That Thread For The Next Four Episodes. All of the monster stuff just feels like arbitrary bullshit, quantity over quality. There's no sense of design or progression, just No Monsters BUT THEN A MILLION MONSTERS. (No appearances from either set of Douji and Hime, which makes everything here feel even more random.) If anything's orchestrating things, I can't tell. If the Oni have any strategy for stopping things beyond stamping out the occasional fire, I can't tell. It's just a cacophony of monsters, and then the Oni rally to destroy them, repeat. It's not even a story, it's just a spectacle, and I came here for a story. Luckily, there are a whole bunch of characters I like, so I mostly enjoyed this episode as long as I ignored the feeling that it didn't really have an overall idea to communicate. I mean, that's not technically true. There's a little sliver of a theme to it, where Hibiki and Zanki are both struggling with their kids. It's just, the situations are so different (Kiriya is an asshole, Todoroki was nearly killed in heroic battle) and the stakes are so uneven that, beyond Parenting Is Tough, I'm not clear on what's supposed to be tying this whole thing together. As with last episode, even if it's hard to call this episode a success (it's like a C- grade on my internal scale, which would make this an F- for anyone else), there's some quality character beats to it. We'll start with Hibiki, who I feel like I never talk about anymore? In fairness, boy, not a great storyline he's in. Kiriya is more abrasive than ever before, in a way where I can't figure out what the show thinks the viewers are getting out of his plot. Hibiki is trying to figure this kid out, provide him with support, but why? Nothing Kiriya's done so far paints him in anything less than a pathetic light, and now he's added Mopey to his list of negative character traits. There's some value to Hibiki trying to still be a mentor to this kid, and the character always plays on the right side of Supportive Without Being A Doormat. He's willing to defend Kiriya without question, because he's responsible for him as his mentor. It's the Oni version of unconditional love, and it's all over this episode. Obviously, it's a heavy part of the Todoroki and Zanki stuff, which is still working great for me. I'm a sucker for stories about jocks who feel like suffering a catastrophic injury is worse because of how they've let everyone they love down. That story... oof. My emotions! So having Todoroki unable to bear looking weak around Hinaka, having him regress back to the safe space of leaning on Zanki... I really like all that. I like how both Todoroki and Zanki have taken opposite but equally detrimental lessons from their Oni training. Todoroki continues to view his need to get well as not some personal outcome, but as a debt he owes to the Oni. Meanwhile, Zanki is willing to sacrifice himself to buy Todoroki the time it takes to get better, something Todoroki 100% would not be cool with. It's a real Gift Of The Magi deal, where Todoroki is pushing himself to lessen the burden on Zanki, and Zanki is burdening himself because he sees how hard Todoroki is pushing himself. It is... it is very Inoue plotting! I am not complaining about that! I am complaining about Asumu's story which... it's like the endgame monster plot, where I just don't care about it? The main problem is that there's been zero struggle or friction in Asumu's training. He's accomplished every task that Hibiki's put in front of him, and it's clear that he'll be an adequate, if unexceptional, apprentice. He's fine. He'll probably do fine. But the story is completely about Kiriya's role as apprentice, with Asumu mostly trying to keep Kiriya focused. It's barely an Asumu plot, in the sense that there's no conflict whatsoever. It's only in this episode that Kiriya, who has quit, tells Asumu that Hey Dummy We Were In Contention. There was a dramatic plot and Asumu didn't even know he was in it. That is not great writing, assuming you think Asumu is one of the lead characters of this show. Yeah, not a super-thrilling installment. The Todoroki stuff still works, thanks to the actors, but that's about all I got out of this one. Nothing else really jumped out at me, give or take Zanki dying and then showing up in Todoroki's hospital room as a Force Ghost. But that's a next time discussion.
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11-09-2020, 09:52 PM | #610 |
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This... this doesn't sound like great television.
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