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08-21-2013, 08:48 AM | #21 |
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Medusa was the only one who could sense Gates. Logically, they should have followed her.
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08-21-2013, 09:22 AM | #22 |
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08-21-2013, 09:29 AM | #23 |
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Yes. He was the only one who could ensure the survival of their race so of course they would follow him. But as with many evil organizations or groups in a toku, the evil leader is usually the evil leader because he's scary and powerful.
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08-21-2013, 05:01 PM | #24 |
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I can't see that part of the Mage costume as anything but a skirt, so it was pretty weird seeing it on the two guys
Anyway, another fantastic episode. I love villains like Fueki who believe their own "good" personal goals are worth the expense of others.
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08-21-2013, 05:45 PM | #25 |
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Okay, so I am avoiding spoilers at all cost as I haven't watched 46 and 47 yet, but i need to know, does 48 continue right off of 47 or does 48 start the next 2 parter? Just curious as I am trying to figure out if the stories are going to be 46-48 and 49-51, 46-47, 48-49, 50-51, or 46-47 and 48-51.
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08-21-2013, 06:10 PM | #26 |
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Okay, so I am avoiding spoilers at all cost as I haven't watched 46 and 47 yet, but i need to know, does 48 continue right off of 47 or does 48 start the next 2 parter? Just curious as I am trying to figure out if the stories are going to be 46-48 and 49-51, 46-47, 48-49, 50-51, or 46-47 and 48-51.
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08-21-2013, 07:03 PM | #27 |
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Wow, that was terrible, huh? I guess I should be impressed that the episode managed to explain everything without actually answering any questions. I'm not a Phantom, I used science to become one and wield magic! What how?
Haruto you were chosen to be a Wizard, because you would power Koyomi, who is actually the Philosophers stone! What, why? And how? . This plan is almost as ludicrously overcomplicated as Golgom's are and somehow the plan seems to have even less purpose and direction. Haruto was such a dick this week, even with all the haters out there you can't say he is a passive protagonist like so many other Riders, yet here he continued to refuse to act and shit spiralled out of control because of it. It's funny, Nitou went from pointlessly standing in the background, being another unneeded comic relief character to becoming the more active, more herolike Rider. Not to mention that Haruto has completely forgotten everything he learnt about friendship and sharing the load, fuck man I try so hard to defend you and I genuinely love you but come on man, work with me here. Everything else? Koyomi really is a fucking TERRIBLE actress, coupling that with how much I don't give a fuck about her made most of the episode as unintentionally hilarious as it was dull. Anyone else think of this? . That being said, I can't work out who is the worse actor, her or Fueki. Also, this should be Koyomi's themesong:
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08-21-2013, 07:30 PM | #28 |
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Haruto you were chosen to be a Wizard, because you would power Koyomi, who is actually the Philosophers stone! What, why? And how? . This plan is almost as ludicrously overcomplicated as Golgom's are and somehow the plan seems to have even less purpose and direction.
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Haruto was such a dick this week, even with all the haters out there you can't say he is a passive protagonist like so many other Riders, yet here he continued to refuse to act and shit spiralled out of control because of it. It's funny, Nitou went from pointlessly standing in the background, being another unneeded comic relief character to becoming the more active, more herolike Rider.
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Not to mention that Haruto has completely forgotten everything he learnt about friendship and sharing the load, fuck man I try so hard to defend you and I genuinely love you but come on man, work with me here.
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Everything else? Koyomi really is a fucking TERRIBLE actress, coupling that with how much I don't give a fuck about her made most of the episode as unintentionally hilarious as it was dull. Anyone else think of this? . That being said, I can't work out who is the worse actor, her or Fueki.
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08-21-2013, 07:39 PM | #29 |
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A)He didn't use science to become a Phantom. He used it to create one. Given the proper materials, (which Kamen Rider has proven time and again that it has access to said materials,) it is totally possible to create a Phantom in a laboratory and implant it within yourself. Really, I would only be concerned by the fact that a physicist was doing the work of a geneticist, but I can believe that desperate times would inspire Fueki to learn about genetics.
B)It's not so much that Koyomi is the Philosopher's Stone, but that she holds it. It acts as a battery, and Haruto recharges the power, much like an alternator does with a car battery. As for the why, that was clearly outlined in Episode 46, when Fueki said he would save Koyomi no matter what it takes. He elaborated on it in this episode as well. C)What do you mean he refused to act? He sent out the PlaMonsters to search the city for a week, went to Sora's home to investigate himself, and confronted Fueki in his own home. If anything, you could complain about Mayu not doing anything when Sora had her in a choke hold and instead of transforming, which she was fully capable of doing, she didn't do anything. Mayu is the one who hasn't been doing much, but I can excuse that because they gave a reason. D)He has been sharing the load. He's been more open these past few episodes than he has hroughout the duration of the series. A) Yeah, but what the fuck does that mean? Nothing about this shows mythology makes any kind of sense. I mean slow down with the making yourself into a Phantom with "science" shit, I still have no fucking clue what a Wizard is yet. A Phantom host who uses Rings? Yeah well that tells me what they are but how or why, I guess those aren't important. B) Yeah but according to the show, Fueki just shoved the stone into her or whatever because he could. How could he? Science I guess. This plan makes no sense. They clearly outlined what the philosophers stone did and why people needed it in shows like FMA but Wizard thinks an explanation is dramatically saying 'sabatt'. I love the idea of a man driven to despair and falling into a world of dark magic and twisted science to bring her back, but it's just handled really poorly and makes me want to watch FMA instead. C) When Mage Green was being taken away, he just stood there like a deer in the headlamps, while Nitou was the one who actively tried to save him. I know Haruto is falling apart but come the fuck on man. D) And then when Rinko, Beast, Mayu, Shunpei are trying to help, he claims he needs to do it alone and just leaves them all behind. Completely going back on all his character growth that made and stressed the point that he DOESN'T have to do anything alone. And he never should.
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08-21-2013, 08:23 PM | #30 |
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I've added letters to each point so I can address each as multi quoting is a pain.
A) Yeah, but what the fuck does that mean? Nothing about this shows mythology makes any kind of sense. I mean slow down with the making yourself into a Phantom with "science" shit, I still have no fucking clue what a Wizard is yet. A Phantom host who uses Rings? Yeah well that tells me what they are but how or why, I guess those aren't important. Quote:
The WizarDriver is merely a doorman to specialized universes in the omniverse (yes, it's a real term- just google it) that react differently to particles from our universe. The Rings are the keys to these universes, the Driver reacting accordingly to each Ring. Some of these universes needed contact within them to maintain the ability (e.g. the Big Ring- as long as some of Haruto's particles are in that universe, almost any particle that Haruto passed through that universe will remain enlarged). Others (e.g. sleep) remain permanent until Haruto undos the effect, most probably by going through a "cleansing" portal. The subconscious world Haruto enters with the Engage Ring is merely an alternate reality, with events in that reality correlating with the events in the victim's psyche. Haruto's henshin works in the same way as his "magic"- passing through the appropriate field turns him into his Rider form.
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B) Yeah but according to the show, Fueki just shoved the stone into her or whatever because he could. How could he? Science I guess. This plan makes no sense. They clearly outlined what the philosophers stone did and why people needed it in shows like FMA but Wizard thinks an explanation is dramatically saying 'sabatt'. I love the idea of a man driven to despair and falling into a world of dark magic and twisted science to bring her back, but it's just handled really poorly and makes me want to watch FMA instead.
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C) When Mage Green was being taken away, he just stood there like a deer in the headlamps, while Nitou was the one who actively tried to save him. I know Haruto is falling apart but come the fuck on man.
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D) And then when Rinko, Beast, Mayu, Shunpei are trying to help, he claims he needs to do it alone and just leaves them all behind. Completely going back on all his character growth that made and stressed the point that he DOESN'T have to do anything alone. And he never should.
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