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03-14-2022, 10:15 PM | #151 |
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.......I understand that, but if Faiz's events have been erased, would Takkun even know Kusaka in the first place? (There's no doubt they'd butt heads with or without the memory of Faiz's events, that's just the kind of guys they are ofc) It becomes another "How Far Does the Re-Write/Erasure Go?" issue, so I won't push on it any further than that.
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03-14-2022, 10:15 PM | #152 |
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03-14-2022, 10:30 PM | #153 |
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Spent a minute watching the new DonBros (real real good), and it looks like I missed some discussion!
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In the meantime, those kids from Movie War Ultimatum are back????? I didn't even recognize it as them until I checked the wiki lol. Alongside with Mr. Ohsugi! Their appearance isnt anything to write home about, just a way to get the Fourze Ridewatch into our heroes' hands, but it's nice they got some Fourze actors back when they could've easily just gotten new actors to play the KRC members!
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Using a stand in actor and archival audio would definitly do the trick and at least in this one they actually bother explaning why Gentaro isn't in this tribute he's busy being a caring teacher trying to investiagte the missing girls via handing our missing poster!(that such a Gentaro thing to do.)
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Crap, I had something typed out but this was the wrong episode. I was talking about the episode after which had some things I loved.
But, yes, nice to see Takumi and, especially, Kusaka back! Another neat thing that hasn't occurred to me till after the show was that Another Faiz and Another Fourze share the same undersuit, gauntlets, and boots! It's a nice detail and it wasn't completely apparent to me! Quote:
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.......I understand that, but if Faiz's events have been erased, would Takkun even know Kusaka in the first place? (There's no doubt they'd butt heads with or without the memory of Faiz's events, that's just the kind of guys they are ofc) It becomes another "How Far Does the Re-Write/Erasure Go?" issue, so I won't push on it any further than that.
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03-14-2022, 10:35 PM | #154 |
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I don't know if there's anything else like talking about Faiz. One of my all-time favorite shows. And this episode only had maybe two minutes of it! AND IT WAS THE BEST PART OF MY DAY!
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03-15-2022, 02:53 AM | #155 |
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“It all began with a shooting star”
Here we are, at another instalment of Ridewatch Playlist: Space on Hands edition First up, is the main man himself. “Space is HERE! The Rider fighting with the power of Switches is… Fourze” And the song choice is obviously Switch On Next up is the final form Decade’s actor considers the worst suit of them all. “The bonds of friends births a new power. Space’s ultimate Cosmic Power, Fourze Cosmic States” And once again, the choice was easy: Cosmic Mind “Fighting for the sake of friendship, the Kung-fu master Rider is Meteor” I might as well just come out and say that all of the choices here were obvious Shooting Star “The storming Meteor awakened by friendship. Meteor Storm” Admittedly, this is tied with Kiva and OOO for how easy it was to assemble (the hardest were Kuuga, Hibiki and Drive) Evolvin’ Storm And here is the list of the unreleased. This time, none of them won the competition Kamen Rider Fourze (Elek States) Kamen Rider Fourze (Fire States) Kamen Rider Fourze (Magnet States) Kamen Rider Fourze (Rocket States) Kamen Rider Fourze (Meteor Fusion States) Kamen Rider Fourze (Meteor Nadeshiko Fusion States) Kamen Rider Nadeshiko As for the Another Rider compare and contrast. Gentaro is an outgoing person with a lot of friends and one of the most talkative riders, while Another Fourze is mysterious, a loner and has no dialogue when transformed. Design-wise, the Tron lines inherited from Another Faiz resemble those on the Zodiarts, while his transformation into Another Faiz is reminiscent of Zodiarts evolving into Horoscopes. I’ll skip over how the kids from Ultimatum are back (I read a few comments from when the episode aired, where many didn’t recognise them and thought they were just a Japanese take on Bulk and Skull) and Gentaro being reduced to stock footage and a pre-recorded line (which also confirms what happens to the monsters when the Riders lose their powers: they cease to exist) and talk about our third Time Jacker, Schwartz. As promised, his name isn’t a foreign translation of “hour”, instead being a composite of “schwarz” (German for “black”) and quartz (a material used to make watches). That should tell you everything about him. Last edited by Androzani84; 03-15-2022 at 05:00 AM.. |
03-15-2022, 08:41 AM | #156 |
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All I remember from this episode was my amazement at how deep Takumi's voice has gotten.
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03-15-2022, 09:51 AM | #157 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 5 - ?SWITCH ON! 2011?
We get two of the mutant kids from the Fourze/Wizard movie, as well as Ohsugi, who will be in these things until the end of time. It makes sense in the continuity, since everyone?s long since graduated, but it's still a bit of letdown, compared to the Ex-Aid and Build stories. We?ve got whoever would return Toei?s calls, and that is going to make for some weird stories. Not sure I?d?ve devoted so much of this episode to movie-only and supporting characters? Quote:
But who cares, because TAKUMI AND KUSAKA ARE BACK.
The last episode teaser sort of spoiled it (you see Them Eyebrows, it?s time to Open Your Eyes), but we are also in a Faiz tribute! It?s minor (definitely going to be more of the next episode), but I loved every second of it. Like, the first thing Kusaka does in this episode is try to murder a teenage girl, so that?s some A++ Faizing. And then Takumi showing up, happy to rumble with Kusaka and just generally irritate him. Perfect. Perfect! Of course, I care so much more that Takumi and Kusaka are here, than how they're here. It's awesome to see them again, together like this without one of them being a vengeful ghost. The first 4 episodes didn't sell me on Zi-O, I struggled to connect with the story that Shimoyama was trying to tell, but I think he did good with this arc. A story about friendship and loneliness is something that works great for both Faiz and Fourze. It's exactly the kind of novel stuff I'm here for! This is also Murakami Kohei's first time returning as Kusaka after his new role in Zyuohger. Quote:
Which, boy, that?s a nice thing to do, for those of us who love both Fourze and Faiz. To do the Friendship tribute, and then immediately pivot it to the show that viewed friendship as both blessing and curse, with a Rider who fought for years to be worthy of both external and internal acceptance?
Very excited to see what happens next. I recall I first noticed that in Kamen Rider 4. Takumi sure is deep now.
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03-15-2022, 11:20 AM | #158 |
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This arc is certainly a clever one.
To be honest, some of these early episodes kind of escape me at the moment, but they're not bad at all. The Armor Times are pretty great, including some of the sounds from their respective Riders, but also the armors doing their signature poses before becoming a part of our Time Riders, and it's neat how Zi-O's is Katakana, whilst Geiz is Hiragana, it's such an interesting way of defining the two. It also really warms me to see Gentarou's students and teacher again, but strangely funny how Gentarou is just expecting Sougo and lets him have his powers, which after the Wizard X Fourze movie, kind of fits, and yet doesn't fit at all, so I don't know quite how I feel about this exactly. Funnier still, Fourze took place in a high school, and Decade's Faiz also took place in a high school. I also find how they slightly tweak the monster-of-the-week formula pretty cool, since usually they save something like this for later, but it's a little refreshing to see Rider changing its formula to avoid becoming cut-and-paste of the same weekly conflict until the endgame. But nothing against that formula, since there are shows where it doesn't feel like it's dragged on for too long, or they're constantly entertaining that I don't mind the usual formula, but it's still something I've noticed from later Rider seasons. And of course, while I'm not familiar with Faiz, we get our favorite laundryman and local scuzzball to make up for the lack of Fourze appearances (at least we got the handshake). |
03-15-2022, 11:24 AM | #159 |
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I mean, they want the same thing (defeating the Bugsters) for massively different reasons. The goal is the same, it's just the motivations that are different. There are a couple of storylines explicitly about whether their motivations can be met with a different goal, sure, but Curing The Bugster Virus is a pretty locked-in goal for the four main Riders for the duration of the show.
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The Fourze stuff in here was? whatever. It?s one of those thematic tie-ins where it?s mostly just someone saying a keyword again and again, and hoping that makes it seem like the story?s about more than plot. Because it?s a Fourze tribute, expect to hear Sougo say Friendship like it?s a replacement for Henshin. Otherwise, for now though Geiz is the one that hates Sougo, the actual problem in the main team for now is Woz that both Geiz and Tsukuyomi tells Sougo to not trust him. Now by that Sougo is put in a situation where he had to become a villain's pawn but not doing that would not have any way to advance forward. Sougo can be frequently stupid but for this one... can't blame him or anyone for progressing even by trusting a manipulator's words, because the alternative would be having no more moves (of which is shown in a series that can't be talked about yet here). Woz is also a damn badass though, he's not Ohma Zi-O's prophet for nothing, that he can block Another Fourze's punch in his human form and then throw fireball at him. Speaking of badass Sougo did it again with a successful plan to distract the nurses by having him fall on stairs so those 2 can check up the student's data. Sougo isn't being merely useful to teach Geiz and Tsukyomi how to be teenagers! Quote:
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My favorite part, though, is how smart it is to layer a Faiz story over a Fourze story. First of all, to go from Fourze to 555? man, that?s a funny gag. But to then look at a Fourze story, tease Ryusei, and then remind people that Kamen Rider Meteor was actually the second Ryusei in Heisei? After the Ryusei School (?Go Meteors!), home of so many mutant dinks on Kamen Rider Faiz? I LOVE IT. It?s the best, smartest connection. It?s a total deep cut that?s been sitting there for seven years, waiting for a writer brave enough to tie together the Friendship Show and the Definitely Not Friendship Show.
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I mean, Sougo's a sweet kid -- Kamen Rider Puppy Dog -- but I feel like he'd be a terrible friend if you were a teenager? Like, we've seen him try and hang with one kid his age who wasn't a Time Orphan, and he immediately made things weird by drafting that kid into his Good Empire. Like, it took maybe seven seconds for Sougo to steer things towards his troubling/adorable obsession. That can't be fun to be around? If you couldn't order a pizza without your friend talking about which toppings would be the official ones for his realm, you'd probably stop hanging out with him.
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03-15-2022, 11:54 AM | #160 |
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As for the Another Rider compare and contrast. Gentaro is an outgoing person with a lot of friends and one of the most talkative riders, while Another Fourze is mysterious, a loner and has no dialogue when transformed. Design-wise, the Tron lines inherited from Another Faiz resemble those on the Zodiarts, while his transformation into Another Faiz is reminiscent of Zodiarts evolving into Horoscopes.
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Faiz and Fourze are my favorite and third favorite Heisei Rider shows respectively (Build is second) and while the thematic connection between them isn't immediately obvious from the first part, this shared arc does do some really smart things with the Faiz cast utilizing the themes of Fourze. Like Rei, I am also waiting for you to watch the next episode so I can talk about them! It's also a reminder that friendship is still a major part of Faiz, but naturally it's depicted as way harder than the friendship expert Gentarou makes it look.
Also, a PROGRAMMING NOTE for anyone new to the thread or folks who just forgot, but Tuesday is a night off for me. No new episode post tonight. After a first week watching both Zi-O and DonBros, I think I'm good to do six nights a week in this thread. Episode 6 of Zi-O should post late Wednesday. Quote:
It also really warms me to see Gentarou's students and teacher again, but strangely funny how Gentarou is just expecting Sougo and lets him have his powers, which after the Wizard X Fourze movie, kind of fits, and yet doesn't fit at all, so I don't know quite how I feel about this exactly.
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You think here the explanation is the people graduating, but for that, I don't think that the Ex-Aid and Build story before had the characters being that ahead in their timeline story too, at least for Build, ahead of for example the Heisei Generations timeline where Banjou was still selfish.
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The part you talked here about ordering pizza doesn't sound like a bad situation but about settling differences and that you gotta be able to and in civil way. It'd be better rather than being with a hostile asshole sorry, but specifically when they're a popular one, of which being the life of a party (at expense of others too by that) can make them popular regardless if those can be two-faced or such and thus they can get free pass while harming others or such.
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