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04-24-2022, 07:11 AM | #801 |
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Tying in Tsukuyomi to Soichi was a great idea and makes for a better growth for her character. I didn't quite understand why at first, but getting through Agito slowly got me realizing why Soichi and Tsukuyomi were paired up for this one.
Seeing G3 mass produced is neat! Ill-equipped it may be, still. But hey, it only took around a Decade and a half to get it, right? |
04-24-2022, 07:46 AM | #802 |
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I had been wondering what they would do with the one show that already an an Another Rider, at least in name. I wasn't quite expecting this!
Fun how they played with that fact. The second phase of tribute episodes was generally better received than the first, as you can see from these last two. I kinda wonder if they save many of the ones where they weren't sure who they'd be able to get back until later and had more time to develop them? At any rate, most of these are quite fun. |
04-24-2022, 10:39 AM | #803 |
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04-24-2022, 12:06 PM | #804 |
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(Fish Sandwich also watched Kamen Rider Zi-O - EP31)
There's not too much I can think to say about this episode that I either didn't already say years ago, or that isn't just something it seems like everyone thinks about this episode. It's a great time, a strong start to another string of episodes written by Nobuhiro Mouri, and a very promising beginning to Teruaki Sugihara directing episodes of Kamen Rider. I think I'll have a bit more to say after Die watches the conclusion to this one.
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04-24-2022, 02:11 PM | #805 |
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I wouldn't say this is a moral/immoral beat. It's just Sougo valuing... not "determination", or "willpower", but the necessary optimism to hope for a better future, and the belief in yourself to make that future come true. It makes Sougo sad to see anyone give up on themselves, or to be pessimistic about the future.
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 31 - ?2001 - AWAKEN YOUR AGITO!?
As far as third act reveals go, Tsukuyomi Might Be A Time Jacker is one of the least surprising. Ever since the first episode (I think?), there?s been that shot in the opening credits of Tsukuyomi descending a flight of stairs, flanked by vanishing Time Jackers. The none-too-subtle implication is that Tsukuyomi?s history is tied up with the Time Jackers, and that she?s probably one of them. Quote:
But I do like how Shouichi?s journey is a good template for what Tsukuyomi?s bound to learn: labels are pointless, never be afraid to be true to yourself, and trust in your friends to care about you. (If no one says Tsukuyomi Is Tsukuyomi, I?m going to completely lose my shit. It?s right there!!!) That part of Agito was my favorite, give or take a Houjou. I liked how it was a series about suspicion, and mistrust, and how we fear losing acceptance even as we sometimes resent the need for it; but then finding out that we can only be our best selves when we stop thinking of ourselves as less than our best selves. Real self-improvement only happens with self-acceptance.
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There?s a serenity to that message, and it was such a huge part of the Shouichi character. It?s fantastic to see that the actor still has it, that warmth and tranquility. Just seeing Shouichi was a delight, and this episode delivered some very fun additional Agito alums. Omuro, captain of the still-hopeless G3 Unit! Mana, looking only vaguely like she should be adorned in timepieces, but still working in food service! And Anotherer Agito, who is now some sort of zombie that wants to turn G3 operators/equippers into more Agitos! (Hoping Hikawa is Anotherer Agito, because him desperately wanting to be a powerful hero and it endangering all of his coworkers is a super-duper Hikawa story.)
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04-24-2022, 06:10 PM | #806 |
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This gives something to know more from Tsukuyomi, and this is something that obviously I didn't talk before due to spoilers, but it's something teased in Heisei Generations movie with Tsukuyomi not recognizing that name when Ataru refers her as that, it's shown here that Tsukuyomi had amnesia and it's not her real name.
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But what 'different goal' Tsukuyomi actually have by this? There's nothing changed regarding that, unless you're likely talking about speculations in the future, she's still someone who wants to change the future for the better and guide Sougo on the right path. Nothing different in goal.
Woz doesn't have any additional information to share, but it sure as shit doesn't stop him from commandeering Tsukuyomi's speech.
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04-24-2022, 08:02 PM | #807 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 32 - “2001 - UNKNOWN MEMORIES”
I mean, if you have to do a story where Tsukuyomi decides not to investigate the Troubling Mysteries of her past until later in the season, Shouichi’s the Rider you want to be the guest-star. He’s a guy that never valued his past more than his present, so that’s absolutely going to be the lesson he imparts to Tsukuyomi. (Also, his past was just dumb stuff on a boat with an Agito Jesus, so you can see why he wouldn’t advise anyone to dig into their repressed memories.) It helps that it’s a lesson that the whole cast ends up learning at different points, making it more of an overall theme of the series than some random one-off life lesson. In the same way that Geiz was so focused on the needs of the future that he risked losing a friendship in the present, Tsukuyomi is so spun around about the Troubling Mysteries of her past that she runs out on the friends who need her right now. In both cases, it’s an overemphasis on the individual over the group. The Time Orphans take on all this weight, and view their problems as Their Problems, rather than something that their friends can help with. More than that, they miss the ways that their worries can be alleviated by focusing on the connections they have right this second. Keeping things present-tense can also keep you grounded, and it can let you better appreciate the support systems you have available to you. Probably pretty tough for four-dimensional commandos to understand, but it’s something worth keeping in mind. The rest of the episode was good, but nothing that’s really worth unpacking. Sometimes that happens! The whole back half of this episode is a gigantic battle against Evil Agito and a bunch Another Agito mooks, and it was definitely fun to watch. It just… it’s a big fight! It’s got a new song! (I think! I mostly don’t notice the music in these shows!) A ton of things explode! I mostly don’t care! Your mileage may vary (and I’m sure at least one person is going to tell me that the fight at the end of Episode 32 is one of their favorite Zi-O moments), but I found the whole back half of this episode to be entertaining, but weightless. There’s no real strategy to defeating the villains; it’s just overwhelming power. I don’t really understand why the Agito Ridewatch creates an exact duplicate of Agito, instead of the usual Another Rider thing. (I don’t even understand how the Anotherer Agito even exists without a Ridewatch as the power source?) The episode basically ended for me after the scene with Tsukuyomi and Shouichi at Restaurant Agito. The rest was fun, but nothing worth digging into. As long as I’m griping a bit about an episode I enjoyed… like, Anotherer Agito wasn’t anybody? Just some monster? That’s– that’s it? Why was it so dead set on attacking G3 guys? What was even the strategy, besides causing mayhem? Was it just to get Shouichi to appear? If so, why not target him directly? And what was the plan once Heure had the Agito Ridewatch? Part of the reason I didn’t care much about the final battle is that the escalation of the Anotherer Agito plot was so tough to follow. There’s a ton of monsters to fight, but it’s pretty vague about what the monsters or villains are even trying to achieve in this story. This episode ended up being a step down from the last one for me, but still a fun installment with plenty to recommend it. Great to see Shouichi in action, especially as Agito Trinity. (Woz’z absolute fanboy freakout was an episode highlight, if not a series highlight.) Tsukuyomi’s story, despite the COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAILURE of never saying Tsukuyomi Is Tsukuyomi, was a fun riff on a series staple. The villain and monster stuff was poorly explained and seemed to be only concerned with providing bodies to be detonated, but those detonations were pretty fun to watch. …okay, now everyone can talk about the song during the fight while I try not to lose my mind over next episode’s return of two of my favorite Hibiki characters. YES, I SAID IT.
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04-24-2022, 08:20 PM | #808 |
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The insert song that played was BELIEVE YOURSELF which played in just about every episode in the first half of Agito. It coming on along with the big fight scene is probably just about everybody's biggest memory and takeaway from this episode. For me personally? Yeah, it's like, a lot of flashy and good fun, which is usually the most I hope for from these guest-star episodes.
Also what, the Time Jacker's plan makes no sense? Next you're going to tell me that Sougo still wants to be king, or that Woz goes Iwae in this episode...! |
04-24-2022, 08:22 PM | #809 |
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The Zi-O Trinity and Agito Trinity fight is probably one of my favorites. It feels like a little snippet of a movie fight. Real fun stuff. Also Woz's fanboy freakout is great, so is the ensuing argument:
Geiz: I told you to quit embarrassing me! Woz: Quiet, right shoulder Sougo: You're both shoulders though... And just Tsukuyomi being so done with it while Shoichi is like "Yeah, what a great friendship." Speaking of Tsukuyomi though, real good stuff. Slight missed opportunity on some stuff but I'll talk about that at a later date. But yeah, overall good set of episodes and I consider the Blade, Agito, and our next tribute episodes a real good streak of episodes. Speaking of next episodes, we've got two BGM Swaps this time. The obvious one and then a special one because of what shows up next episode and the date in which these episodes aired. Zero's Legend Episode Previews Corner - EP 33 Preview: |
04-24-2022, 08:29 PM | #810 |
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This two-parter was more like it.
After a big string of episodes that try to cram in a whole lot of what amounts to nothing, these two episodes do a great job at staying focused, giving good character development, and treating the returning characters with their due respect. I was already on board as soon as I saw what they did with Another Agito(such a good meta gag!), but the above combined with some great action, wonderful character humor, and the return of Agito Trinity absolutely sold it for me. I really wish that Zi-O Trinity had debuted here, rather than just popping out of nowhere in the Blade tribute. But most importantly, Tsukuyomi finally got her due, and having her be the one to learn from Shoichi was the obvious best choice they could've made. Still, I do wish atleast one other character could have come back... Makoto Hikawa, or as I call him, the REAL main character of Agito! What started off as an obvious expy of Ichijo from Kuuga ended up evolving into a unique character in their own right. In a plot that made absolutely no sense, Hikawa and the G3 Police were always there to deliver with great character comedy and solid development. I'm not exaggerating that when it came down to it, I was basically watching Agito solely for them. They're the source of all of my favorite moments from Agito, and I'm so glad they ended up the way they did.
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