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09-03-2020, 01:18 AM | #871 |
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another thing I prefer endings like this and Ex-Aid(disregarding the movies) because it feels like shit has consequences instead of magically getting resolved like in Ryuki, what other shows have you seen
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09-03-2020, 01:19 AM | #872 |
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EDIT Surprise surprise that last meme that I mentioned is the bench, some forums post it whenever something depressing happens in a rider series bonus points if it's the ending tbf I could have posted the image but not only can I not explain why it's a meme and/or the joke without spoiling anything but that might have been your queue that this is gonna have not a downer ending per say but quite possibly the biggest case of "good guy won but at what cost" ending I've seen
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09-03-2020, 01:25 AM | #873 |
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I think what's great about Blade's ending is that it's super upbeat (everyone's doing great, no one died) while also being a goddamn dagger in the heart (Kenzaki is gone forever). I mean, if you wanted to look at it a certain way, nothing had consequences. The Darkroaches just disappear, Tachibana miraculously survived (being saved by Karasuma, which is the biggest WTF detail in the entire finale), everyone in the cast is totally fine. But the show bets everything on They'll Never See Kenzaki Again as being the most heartbreaking outcome imaginable, and they were smart to do it.
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09-03-2020, 03:26 AM | #874 |
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Well, you finally did it. I am glad you liked the ending and as others have said, myself included, it is like climbing a mountain when watching Kamen Rider Blade. You start with the rough patches of Karamiso Creek, go through the dark and murky Category Ace Forest, and after you free climb the monstrosity that is Darkroach Canyon, the view is awesome. It's lonely and a few scratches and bruises here and there, but the end justifies it all. So with that said, looking forward to your take on Hibiki.
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09-03-2020, 05:32 AM | #875 |
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Well as promised, here’s the post-show media and its various divergences on what happens next. Your mileage may vary on which is better.
But first, in honour of my recurring thread throughout this video, here’s a video for a collection of all the Rouse Cards in the show. https://youtu.be/h5p-VpA90Tg Day After Tomorrow by Masato Hayase (Character designer for the majority of Heisei Riders and Shotaro Ishinimori’s former assistant) It has been a year since Kazuma Kenzaki transformed into Navy Joker and everyone is throwing a graduation party for Mutsuki and Nozomi. It was supposedly to celebrate them for getting into university but Mutsuki didn’t. All of all sudden, Blade bursts in from the front door and attacks Hajime. Everyone is confused but then Garren shows up in the window and starts firing at Blade. He explains that he and Chief Karasuma were conducting on a research on how to turn Kenzaki and Hajime into humans by unsealing the Chameleon Undead, an Undead with similar powers to the Joker allowing it to copy the form and ability of anything it sees, and tries to copy this ability to the Jokers. However, it escaped and transforms into an imitation of Kamen Rider Blade by using the the BOARD data that he had stolen while chasing after Hajime due to his nature of being a Battle Fight competitor. Tachibana hands over Hajime and Mutsuki’s cards and the Leangle Rouzer as they fight the fake Blade, but it transforms into Jack Form. Mutsuki remains useless as none of his powers grants him the ability to fly. Tachibana warns Hajime as the Chameleon Undead has all of the BOARD data making it easy for him to fight. The Chameleon Undead transforms into King Form and finishes off the Riders. With all of hope seems lost, Hajime even forced himself to evolve into Joker Undead but the fake Rider itself outsmarts him leaving a heavy wound on his chest. As the Rider about to finish Leangle, Joker steps in and takes the blow. At first he thinks that it was Hajime/Chalice but it has no slash mark and he was lying after sustaining the damage on its chest. Tachibana quickly tosses the Joker the Blay Buckle, Rouse Absorber and the Suit of Spades Rouse Cards in understanding. After the Chameleon Undead has been defeated and sealed, all of Blade's items were left neatly on the floor. Nozomi arrives late for the party, and tells Mutsuki that a letter arrived written that he did manage to get into university after all. The Whereabout of Trump by author unknown Episode 1: Feelings That Can’t Be Erased Set 10 years after the BOARD Riders parted their ways, this story tells us about aftermath of it. Hajime Aikawa continues his job in Jacaranda Cafe, as new customer came in and asked for hot coffee. He then asked about what Hajime's friend doing. As latter explained, Haruka Kurihara and Amane Kurihara went to Amane's father grave, and Kotaro Shirai currently on his trip to find information for his new book. Hajime starts to flashback about his relationship with Kazuma Kenzaki and thinking about the way he chose to live. As young man finished his cup of coffee, he asked for the second round. Suddenly, Hajime received phone call. There is no one answered on the other side. "Kenzaki?!", Hajime whispered... Episode 2: What I Want To Protect Mutsuki Kamijo, now working with his apprentice, young man, and trying to make children smile, walked down the road with colleague and discussed his life and work stuff with him. Young man wished him good luck on tomorrow's event, only to be answered to prepare umbrellas in case of sudden rain. Young man had no doubt in Mutsuki's weather prognosis as they are known as pretty accurate. Suddenly, there was a little girl in front of truck, who was saved by Mutsuki. Young man is amazed by Kamijo and walked with him to the office, where Mutsuki started to remembering his teenage years with BOARD Riders. Young man then smiled and told Mutsuki to not overdo with his job. Suddenly, there was a motorcycle engine roar down the street. Mutsuki rushed to it, thinking about Sakuya Tachibana... only to remind himself that he need to meet his old friends more often Episodes 3 and onwards synopsis unavailable. Twilight by Sho Aikawa (Writer: Jikuu Senshi Spielban, Bakuryuu Sentai Abaranger, Juken Sentai Gekiranger, Engine Sentai Go-Onger, Kamen Rider Wizard, Ressha Sentai ToQger. Head writer: Kamen Rider Blade (ep. 29-49), GoGo Sentai Boukenger, Kamen Rider Decade (Ep 1-13) The story is about a dying old woman (Amane) who tells her grandson the story of the four*Kamen Riders. The story covered what happened to the four*after Kenzaki went missing after his fight with Hajime. Hajime lurks around Amane, and stayed by her side during her last moments. He looked exactly the same as when they first met. Mutsuki Kamijo, Shiori Hirose, and Kotaro Shirai died due to old age. Kotaro's book about Kamen Rider was so popular that it later became a TV drama and merchandise, which made a lot of money for the Kurihara family. Tachibana became the head of the BOARD. He kept on researching the Undeads and did experiments on himself. He gained long longevity from his research and kept an eye on the two*Jokers. He is also Amane's health insurance benefactor. Tachibana found information about an unknown beast attacking an armed insurgency in Africa. The beast was trying to keep homeless kids safe from the war zone. That beast is likely to be Kenzaki in his Joker form. Kamen Rider Blade (novel) by Jun’ichi Miyashita (Writer: Kamen Rider Black, Kamen Rider Black RX, Tokkei Winspector, Tokyuu Shirei Solbrain, B-Robo Kabutack, Tetsuwan Tantei Robotack, Kyukyu Sentai GoGoV, Kamen Rider Blade, Engine Sentai Go-Onger. Head writer: Shin: Kamen Rider Prologue, Tokusou Exceedraft, Tokusou Robo Janperson, Blue SWAT, Jukkou B-Fighter, B-Fighter Kabuto, Ninpuu Sentai Hurricaneger) This sequel to the TV series*takes place 300 years following the television series finale. It chronicles Kenzaki's quest to end his life as the Navy Joker*after three centuries. In one instance, Kenzaki is captured by a criminal organization and is tortured, but still does not die. Later in the novel, he becomes a war photographer, all he sees is death. He then enlists in the army for a foreign country, steps on landmines and explodes. Also named are the new Garren and Leangle, Tachihara and Satsuki. Also, the only returning characters are Kenzaki and Hajime. Kenzaki has a weaker personality compared to the TV Series due to living for a long time and seeing a lot of horrible things. Satsuki, the new Leangle's treated the same like the original Leangle, Mutsuki. He is left behind. Kazuma's cynicism has overridden him. Having lived for so long through countless wars and battles without anyone to rely on, this Kazuma became hopeless and defeated, often trying to find ways to kill himself and failing every time due to becoming the Joker Undead. This Kazuma had lost sight of himself and the meaning of his actions as his own death would mean the end of humanity and other life on Earth. During the novel, Kazuma becomes an amnesiac due to the manipulations by the Stone of Sealing, helping him fight again as a Kamen Rider. Yet as time passed by, Kazuma slowly regained his memories and began losing his sanity once more. Before the final fight, the Stone of Sealing used Kazuma's diminishing sanity against him and caused him to turn into the Darkness Undead. It was only by Hajime's actions as the Crimson Undead that Kazuma broke free from the Stone of Sealing's influence, restoring his sanity in the process. Once the Battle Fight had ended once and for all, Kazuma no longer felt burdened as the second Joker Undead, as he was now freed from his Undead instincts. Random tweet by Takayuki Tsubaki (the actor of Kazuma Kenzaki/Blade) "Tachibana-san went to teach him (Mutsuki) how to count to 3!? Garren's Rider System is same as me, but it's much more beautiful. I'm [still] under the influence of Joker's power..." https://mobile.twitter.com/toei_ride...561792/photo/1 And I’ll say this now. I won’t be doing anymore recurring threads until Kiva (maybe Den-O), so for now, I’ll just be a drop-in, voicing my thoughts and sharing random trivia. |
09-03-2020, 08:19 AM | #876 |
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The audio drama is fun; it's a 10 Years Later story with the first two chapters summarized up there. It describes Mutsuki as essentially being professionally successful and mentoring people, Hajime as still being at the Jacaranda with Amane and Haruka, Tachibana as inexplicably In Charge Of Things and good at it, and then Kenzaki is just riding around on his motorcycle with Hajime's photobooks in a backpack. There's a cute bit where he's getting the bike repaired and talks about how he loves the way the photographer sees the world.
There's also the bit where Hajime's professional photographer name is an anagram of Kenzaki's name. At the end of the drama, Kenzaki calls Hajime and then hangs up without saying anything, and Hajime just sounds wrecked. Listening to the audio drama on the same day as watching the Blade series finale is not advisable, lol Extra-canonical material aside, and as much as I like Blade overall, the finale is the one thing that I think it absolutely nailed. Seeing it get so much love today is fantastic |
09-03-2020, 08:46 AM | #877 |
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Blade is the third Rider series of the 2000's I've seen, after Decade and Den-O, and I wasn't ever sure what I was expecting. I've been watching since Wizard, I know how a modern Rider series works, with the new toys, new powers, and the occasional new twist they pull as things inevitably develop. But Blade was something very different. Occasionally weirder than it deserved, far more subtle in its story beats at times, and at times seeming worlds apart from, say, the concurrent 01. It was unsure at first, but I grew to love it, the characters, their bonds, and then you get to the finale, and the bench hits
I may have cried a little. I'm told it's normal.
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Also you gotta love Karasuma for coming back now, of all times, to sit around and do nothing. Typical management behaviour.
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09-03-2020, 09:05 AM | #879 |
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Don't be sorry! If this is what you were hinting at, I definitely did not get the hint! This was mostly just looking at the end of 48, thinking about what little I understood of future Blade appearances (the Ex-Aid specials have his Joker powers acting as a stellar climax to the story, even though I didn't totally understand the significance at the time), and then just thinking about the characters. You didn't spoil anything!
I was wondering if you’d seen that miniseries/how well you remembered it, but I didn’t want to say anything that might spoil Blade’s ending. |
09-03-2020, 11:55 AM | #880 |
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Well, you finally did it. I am glad you liked the ending and as others have said, myself included, it is like climbing a mountain when watching Kamen Rider Blade. You start with the rough patches of Karamiso Creek, go through the dark and murky Category Ace Forest, and after you free climb the monstrosity that is Darkroach Canyon, the view is awesome. It's lonely and a few scratches and bruises here and there, but the end justifies it all. So with that said, looking forward to your take on Hibiki.
The series as a whole is a weird ride, for sure. It makes a lot of choices in production that are maybe not great, but it made a lot of choices in pre-production that keep it from ever being unwatchable. I'm also looking forward to Hibiki! Might be a minute, though! Quote:
Well as promised, here’s the post-show media and its various divergences on what happens next. Your mileage may vary on which is better.
*snip* And I’ll say this now. I won’t be doing anymore recurring threads until Kiva (maybe Den-O), so for now, I’ll just be a drop-in, voicing my thoughts and sharing random trivia. Quote:
The audio drama is fun; it's a 10 Years Later story with the first two chapters summarized up there. It describes Mutsuki as essentially being professionally successful and mentoring people, Hajime as still being at the Jacaranda with Amane and Haruka, Tachibana as inexplicably In Charge Of Things and good at it, and then Kenzaki is just riding around on his motorcycle with Hajime's photobooks in a backpack. There's a cute bit where he's getting the bike repaired and talks about how he loves the way the photographer sees the world.
There's also the bit where Hajime's professional photographer name is an anagram of Kenzaki's name. At the end of the drama, Kenzaki calls Hajime and then hangs up without saying anything, and Hajime just sounds wrecked. Listening to the audio drama on the same day as watching the Blade series finale is not advisable, lol Extra-canonical material aside, and as much as I like Blade overall, the finale is the one thing that I think it absolutely nailed. Seeing it get so much love today is fantastic Quote:
Blade is the third Rider series of the 2000's I've seen, after Decade and Den-O, and I wasn't ever sure what I was expecting. I've been watching since Wizard, I know how a modern Rider series works, with the new toys, new powers, and the occasional new twist they pull as things inevitably develop. But Blade was something very different. Occasionally weirder than it deserved, far more subtle in its story beats at times, and at times seeming worlds apart from, say, the concurrent 01. It was unsure at first, but I grew to love it, the characters, their bonds, and then you get to the finale, and the bench hits
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Oh man, I love the ending to that Ex-Aid miniseries. It is a fantastically clever use of Blade’s lore - “Nice pocket dimension you have here, sure would be a shame if the only Undead on it was a Joker...“ I always appreciate when psst Rider appearances honor the original show’s story, especially after so many years of Black and Black RX hanging out together despite the fact that they’re the same guy.
I was wondering if you’d seen that miniseries/how well you remembered it, but I didn’t want to say anything that might spoil Blade’s ending.
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