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09-07-2020, 03:54 PM | #961 |
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Houjou refuses to attend Team G3's pizza party, dismissing it as low-class, but you can see him looking on jealously through the window of the pizza parlor.
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09-07-2020, 08:30 PM | #962 |
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Gonna have to correct you there. It's Another Agito. "Another" is right there in the name! Hence, second.
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09-08-2020, 01:14 AM | #963 |
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I think it’s very funny that Blade is the only season that has any real debate over who the secondary rider is because it just continues the streak of Tachibana being the most pathetic man on the planet. Dude can’t even get people to trust that he’s the secondary hero!
Jokes aside, “Chalice is the secondary” is very much “Tajador is the final form”. In a pure literal sense of marketing and Toei’s definitions and a bunch of other media mentions and cameos, yes, obviously Garren and Putotyra wear these roles. But spiritually, emotionally; in terms of what strikes a chord with people especially in the context of the final episode, what it means to the characters, and how we think of these terms beyond just the hard boxes we place things in? Tajador is Eiji’s greatest power of his own that represents everything good about him and the relationships he’s forged over the course of the series, and Hajime is the second main protagonist of Blade whom the story is about. |
09-08-2020, 01:05 PM | #964 |
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Well for my last word on the thread, I’ll say that if you thought Hirose wasn’t that great of a female lead, then I’m sure our next one will be better.
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09-08-2020, 01:19 PM | #965 |
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I don't know who that is, but I do know that Hirose was great. She treated this show better than this show treated her!
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09-08-2020, 06:33 PM | #966 |
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(not me fanning the flames) Yeah, all that is exactly why Chalice is undoubtedly the big Number 2 of this show.
Anyhow, the blasted hard term of 'secondary rider' didn't even exist until a certain someone named Kamen Rider Diend came along and then made everyone retroactively put so much more stock into it. It gets even worse and stupider when each person doesn't even realise that they define secondary completely different from each other (whether it's second most important character, secondary to the 'main' story, or literally second to show appear), somehow not realising that's not consistent even in Toei's own 'official' designations. so I thought Agito: G3 Ryuki: Knight Faiz: Kaixa Blade: Chalice (until daddy TOEI said it was Garren) Hibki: Ibuki (TBF none of the riders not named Hibiki are too important to the show like they have their mini arcs but they don't span the whole show) Kabuto: Gattack(Despite the fact he debuts much later than several other riders) Den-O Zeronoes (kinda easy when there's only 2 riders) Kiva: Ixa Decade: Diend W: Accel OOO: Birth tbf the question is which Birth user cause Gotoh is much more plot relevant than Akira but Gotoh doesn't become Birth until MUCH Later in the story like right before the final arc Fourze: Meteor Wizard: Beast Gaim: Baron Drive: Mach Ghost: Specter Ex-Aid: Brave Build: Cross-Z Zi-O: Geiz Zero-One: Vulcan Last edited by Mmicb0b; 10-26-2020 at 01:49 AM.. |
09-09-2020, 01:01 PM | #967 |
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It’s a figurine of Hibiki’s female lead, from the Girls in Uniform line of figurines which was mostly Super Sentai, but still had two lines devoted to Kamen Rider.
Also I’ll say this now. As much as I rag on about Blade’s low toy sales, I’ve discovered that Hibiki actually has the WORST toy sales in Kamen Rider’s history. (I’m not sure how much, since I only have figures fro Heisei phase 2, where the worst sales belonged to Drive). |
09-09-2020, 02:50 PM | #968 |
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Saving the world in the cast's hand of course would mean to save every life existing there (though their own life isn't guaranteed)... so it's mutual. Though for darker character, there are those that save the world as, literally only saving the planet, but doesn't care about its inhabitants, especially if they're damaging it (like humans). Refusing easy solution of violence prevails here, but I'd like to see the tips of carrying non-violent solution, what's shown is Kenzaki successfully attempts this on Hajime, but Tachibana unsuccessfully attempted this on Trial B.
It's up to him, resisting Joker's control. Joker is meant to end the world, but it seems by plot mechanic, Hajime got a taste of what it feels to be human, via likely, the human Undead. When you only live for combat, it can seem empty after you win, when you have nothing left to do with no more adversary, lonely at the top. This probably should be used as a lesson, either in-universe to reason with someone that only thought about that (them being stubborn or not depends), or real life, those that crave for violence and thinks humans should/are supposed to embody that. If Kenzaki's going to be sealed, then it defeats the point of saving Hajime's humanity and the world, it'd be the same, totally wasted effort/chance, in fact, Hajime still the last Undead standing. Kenzaki lets himself become Undead so that there's more than 1 Undead currently exist, preventing Hajime becoming winner. The solution to keep Hajime's humanity alive after it's too late to try either Mutsuki (unseal Shima, and probably Tiger) or Tachibana's (unseal Human Undead) plan. Obviously, heroism is about your personality, being strong/powerful only makes them superhero. Moreover, not only Sealing Stone being eternal, Undeads are also the same, both Hajime and Kenzaki will eternally live as an Undead. You mean Kenzaki's heroism here is giving up himself for the sake of the world (usual noble sacrificing), he doesn't mind to turn into Undead if it means to save both Hajime and the world (he can save the world just by sealing Hajime, but he gives up himself, his humanity), and his happiness overall to be separated from others (but others have to be in grief for losing Kenzaki). More than just friends, it probably enters the... uhh... shipping territory, especially with the content of their song. All the hard way the cast went through, especially for the last episodes, came from Kenzaki's emotional ties with Hajime, trying hard to keep him alive (or live as Hajime) while saving the world. It's not a happy ending for sure. It's bittersweet. Hajime is allowed to live on as a human, but the Sealing Stone still exists which means Kenzaki must keep as far away from Hajime as possible. It probably even can qualify as a bad ending, for the cast's circle. Quote:
I guess I just don't think she's so bad. She seems to (generally!) be a good helper at the restaurant. For Missing Ace, I think her change there had more to do with losing another father-figure under mysterious circumstances. Closure matters! When she got it at the end of the movie, she was a lot happier!
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09-09-2020, 10:21 PM | #969 |
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You mean Kenzaki's heroism here is giving up himself for the sake of the world (usual noble sacrificing), he doesn't mind to turn into Undead if it means to save both Hajime and the world (he can save the world just by sealing Hajime, but he gives up himself, his humanity), and his happiness overall to be separated from others (but others have to be in grief for losing Kenzaki).
Maybe for some fans, but for me? Nah. There's nothing romantic in Hajime and Kenzaki's chemistry. Some other shows, yeah, absolutely. (Takumi and Yuuji from Faiz!) Here, they're just close friends. Maybe even soulmates, but not in a romantic context.
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09-10-2020, 05:15 AM | #970 |
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Agito: G3
Ryuki: Knight Faiz: Kaixa Blade: Chalice (until daddy TOEI said it was Garren) Hibki: Ibuki (TBF none of the riders not named Hibiki are too important to the show like they have their mini arcs but they don't span the whole show) Kabuto: Gattack(Despite the fact he debuts much later than several other riders) Den-O Zeronoes (kinda easy when there's only 2 riders) Kiva: Ixa Decade: Diend W: Accel OOO: Birth tbf the question is which Birth user cause Gotoh is much more plot relevant than Akira but Gotoh doesn't become Birth until MUCH Later in the story like right before the final arc Fourze: Meteor Wizard: Beast Gaim: Baron Drive: Mach Ghost: Specter Ex-Aid: Brave Build: Cross-Z Zi-O: Geiz Zero-One: Vulcan Ryuki: Knight YES Faiz: Kaixa YES Blade: Chalice (until daddy TOEI said it was Garren) GARREN, cause if it's smack dab on Geiz Majesty Ride Watch, then so be it for now I guess Hibki: Ibuki (TBF none of the riders not named Hibiki are too important to the show like they have their mini arcs but they don't span the whole show)YES Kabuto: Gattack(Despite the fact he debuts much later than several other riders)YES because he was the second rider with a belt Den-O Zeronoes (kinda easy when there's only 2 riders)YES Kiva: IxaYES Decade: DiendYES W: AccelYES OOO: Birth I'd say It's a 2-for-1 deal Fourze: MeteorYES Wizard: BeastYES Gaim: BaronYES Drive: MachYES Ghost: SpecterYES Ex-Aid: BraveYES Build: Cross-ZYES Zi-O: GeizYES Zero-One: VulcanYES
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