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03-09-2013, 11:33 AM | #2971 |
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Except that it did. The ENTIRE series is invalidated because the struggles and sacrifices meant nothing. In the end the battle quite literally repeats itself. It doesn't matter that it's a long war or can't be solved in a year or whatever. The descendants of the very people who fought the war in the first place are perpetually forced to continue fighting it. It never ends.
At least with Ryuki there is resolution. The sacrifices and struggles of all the characters resulted in their lives being better than they'd been before. They got to have that war expunged from them. They never had to suffer through that again. An ending without resolution is pointless. AKA (in my opinion) Dairanger, a cyclical war. I know it's your favorite show and no matter what anyone says you'll defend it, but at the end of the day there's a logical argument for that being a terrible ending and yes, a middle finger to fans. EDIT: Wow, with all the Dairanger talk, I thought this was the Sentai thread.
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03-09-2013, 11:38 AM | #2972 |
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So does that mean the ending to Kiva invalidated the series because the Fangires are back to attack humans? Or the ending to 555 invalidated the series because the king is not dead? How about Blade, because there are still two Undeads walking the Earth? Hibiki never had them finish the actual guy and girl. Kabuto too, as they never actually defeated the Worms. Hell, even W, OOO, and Fourze can be invalidated because Foundation X is still on the loose.
The other endings, though, are different. They're not implying that all their work will be for naught, that their descendants will have to fight, and their descendants, and so on. There's a difference between killing the boss and having a few underlings still around, and killing the boss and telling the viewers that their work amounted to nothing. (Also, the remaining 2 Undead in Blade are saving the world by existing. You know that)
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03-09-2013, 11:55 AM | #2973 |
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Now for me, I didn't hate the Dairanger ending. And that's because to me it works as a good horror ending. The Dairangers defeat their enemies and convince Daijinryu to leave the Earth in peace. Then, fifty-some years later, another group of Gorma revive and the Dairangers' grandchildren and their terrible clothing go off to restart the war, all while the original Dairangers watch on in terror, knowing that even though the new generation things they're saving the world, all they're really doing is sending out the message that Earth is not at peace, which means Daijinryu is going to come back and destroy the world. Viewed that way, it's actually a really, really dark ending and I kinda love it. |
03-09-2013, 01:11 PM | #2974 |
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Still watching Dairanger, I can't really comment, but that doesn't sound realistic. Wars do end.
The biggest problem is that a viewer just spent 50 episodes to watch nothing happen, since the efforts of these characters is ultimately useless. It'd be like if Saving Private Ryan ended with Ryan getting sniped by a unseen sniper under the vein of "It's more realistic that way." Besides, we don't know if the events are going to end up the same. Like I said, do I completely agree with the ending? No, but after watching the series multiple times it fits the themes of the show. Anyway, yeah, I actually forgot this was the KR topic, so I'm going to stop here. And I agree that the ending to 555 is a slap in the face. In fact, the last 10 episodes of the show were as well, but it still did not invalidate the series. Last edited by Dr Kain; 03-09-2013 at 01:16 PM.. |
03-09-2013, 02:27 PM | #2975 |
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Watched the Perseus arc of Fourze, which ended with me ordering SHF Meteor, Meteor Storm and Meteor Star on Mandarake.
I'm not even sure I'm going to like Meteor all that much, but I found I had a lot of money in my paypal account from selling things, and Meteor and Meteor Storm were only 1500 each so it seemed like a crime not get them. Anyway, I enjoyed the story, I'm curious to see what they do with Meteor, and how his character will fit into the show. I hope I like him. I didn't like Accel at all, for a long way thru the show, but in the end I realized I liked him quite a lot, so hopefully I won't hate Meteor, since i ordered all of his figures in one go. Also watched Wizard ep 4. I find Rinko to be very attractive and Koyomi to be a bit of a bitch. Well, to Rinko and Shunpei. Shunpei is a nobody so far, but he looks like he might become annoying if they aren't careful with him. Haruto is engaging enough so far. I really dig Wizard's design, and I'm liking the magic aspect of it. |
03-09-2013, 02:40 PM | #2976 |
Akira who?
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Incredibly late to the show, but I've started on Wizard and thus for I'm getting kind of a retro feeling from it...
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03-09-2013, 02:49 PM | #2977 |
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Watched the Perseus arc of Fourze, which ended with me ordering SHF Meteor, Meteor Storm and Meteor Star on Mandarake.
I'm not even sure I'm going to like Meteor all that much, but I found I had a lot of money in my paypal account from selling things, and Meteor and Meteor Storm were only 1500 each so it seemed like a crime not get them. Anyway, I enjoyed the story, I'm curious to see what they do with Meteor, and how his character will fit into the show. I hope I like him. I didn't like Accel at all, for a long way thru the show, but in the end I realized I liked him quite a lot, so hopefully I won't hate Meteor, since i ordered all of his figures in one go. Also watched Wizard ep 4. I find Rinko to be very attractive and Koyomi to be a bit of a bitch. Well, to Rinko and Shunpei. Shunpei is a nobody so far, but he looks like he might become annoying if they aren't careful with him. Haruto is engaging enough so far. I really dig Wizard's design, and I'm liking the magic aspect of it.
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03-09-2013, 02:51 PM | #2978 |
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I can't say I'm actually a fan of Bruce Lee. I've never seen a single thing with him in it.
I own a few movies that I got cheap in some collection at like Ross for $10 or something, but haven't watched them yet. |
03-09-2013, 02:54 PM | #2979 |
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Oh I don't like any of his movies personally but I respect the man and his skills. He was an artist.
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03-09-2013, 07:15 PM | #2980 |
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For what it's worth, Kiva's ending was pretty bad, and I hated that it meant Kiva II has to continue fighting.
The other endings, though, are different. They're not implying that all their work will be for naught, that their descendants will have to fight, and their descendants, and so on. There's a difference between killing the boss and having a few underlings still around, and killing the boss and telling the viewers that their work amounted to nothing. (Also, the remaining 2 Undead in Blade are saving the world by existing. You know that) |
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